Land Border Opening?

[Pumpkin1172]

It will definitely interesting to see the pressure that will be put on the government now from all different sides about reopening the boarder - especially from the US.

I think many fellow Canadians like me, are waiting to see what they do with the travel restrictions. There are many of us who are patiently (well maybe not patiently lol) not spending our travel money on other big ticket items because we actually want to travel once all this craziness goes away. We want to book escapes from the cold knowing that we don't have to do some stupid quarantine upon coming back home - especially for those of us who are getting both doses of our immunizations. There has been a very clear message that this is the way to get our life back to pre-covid.

 

[Jrb1979]

It will definitely interesting to see the pressure that will be put on the government now from all different sides about reopening the boarder - especially from the US.

I think many fellow Canadians like me, are waiting to see what they do with the travel restrictions. There are many of us who are patiently (well maybe not patiently lol) not spending our travel money on other big ticket items because we actually want to travel once all this craziness goes away. We want to book escapes from the cold knowing that we don't have to do some stupid quarantine upon coming back home - especially for those of us who are getting both doses of our immunizations. There has been a very clear message that this is the way to get our life back to pre-covid.

I agree with most of what you said. Where I disagree is life coming back to pre-covid as I doubt that ever happens. I see proof of vaccination being a requirement for awhile when they do open the border. It's mainly due to how behind a lot of the world is in vaccinations.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

This was an interesting update from a cabinet member about reopening of the boarder and boarder restrictions.
https://fb.watch/5MQDFciMLe/

Here is the link to the information she was talking about as well.

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-can...devices/testing-screening-advisory-panel.html

It will definitely be interesting to see what happens now - especially since cabinet members are calling them out.

 

[Pumpkin1172]

I agree with most of what you said. Where I disagree is life coming back to pre-covid as I doubt that ever happens. I see proof of vaccination being a requirement for awhile when they do open the border. It's mainly due to how behind a lot of the world is in vaccinations.

I agree with you as well. I think we will need a vaccine passport of some sort as well.

You require different vaccines to get into other countries while travelling - ex - South Africa you need a few different vaccines before entering there.

 

[Jrb1979]

I agree with you as well. I think we will need a vaccine passport of some sort as well.

You require different vaccines to get into other countries while travelling - ex - South Africa you need a few different vaccines before entering there.

I'm fine with that. My family will be fully vaccinated by August. By fall we may take a trip south and hopefully Feb have our Tampa trip.

 

[wdwmom3]

I'm fine with that. My family will be fully vaccinated by August. By fall we may take a trip south and hopefully Feb have our Tampa trip.

We want to go in October. We will all be fully vaccinated except my youngest. So I’m really interested to see what they do about kids.

 

[Susan2771]

This was an interesting update from a cabinet member about reopening of the boarder and boarder restrictions.
https://fb.watch/5MQDFciMLe/

Here is the link to the information she was talking about as well.

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-can...devices/testing-screening-advisory-panel.html

It will definitely be interesting to see what happens now - especially since cabinet members are calling them out.

Thank-you for sharing. Was interesting to listen to

 

[KNovacovschi]

What makes me happy with this news is that there is more hope that I won’t be going solo in September. As much as I love my solo trips, and I do love them, I would like my DH to come with for our first trip after all this craziness, he wants to come as well. We will both be fully vaccinated long before our Sept 18th trip and are more then happy to show proof. The proof thing is no different then having to show proof of certain vaccines to go to other countries.

 

[bcwife76]

Well today the Transport Minister is saying that we CAN expect some changes 'in the coming weeks.'

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/b...trictions-coming-weeks-says-minister-alghabra

 

[Minniemoo15]

After the premiers call with the PM, Premier Higgs is now saying his anticipated date of allowing a travel bubble with Maine for July 1 likely won’t be possible. He believes the Federal Government may extend the border closure June 21 and that Canada is waiting for our vaccination levels to get closer to the US’ current level. But he believes mid-July is very much on the table.

We’re getting closer ....

 

[TammyLynn33]

After the premiers call with the PM, Premier Higgs is now saying his anticipated date of allowing a travel bubble with Maine for July 1 likely won’t be possible. He believes the Federal Government may extend the border closure June 21 and that Canada is waiting for our vaccination levels to get closer to the US’ current level. But he believes mid-July is very much on the table.

We’re getting closer ....

i think they will have to wait until more/all provinces are actually open. If they open the border say June 22nd, Ontario is still pretty much closed .It just doesn’t seem feasible. ( not saying it’s wrong or right .. just the logistics )
I am more and more optimistic for Xmas

 

[von Monster]

i think they will have to wait until more/all provinces are actually open. If they open the border say June 22nd, Ontario is still pretty much closed .It just doesn’t seem feasible. ( not saying it’s wrong or right .. just the logistics )
I am more and more optimistic for Xmas

The issue would be that Ontario is for some odd reason at least a month behind every other province for pretty much every activity you can think of. I fully expect over the next week or two for the provincial government to 'pivot' same as it did on outdoor activities last week.

Your guide to COVID-19 reopenings: what you can do — and when — in each province | CBC News

After the premiers call with the PM, Premier Higgs is now saying his anticipated date of allowing a travel bubble with Maine for July 1 likely won’t be possible. He believes the Federal Government may extend the border closure June 21 and that Canada is waiting for our vaccination levels to get closer to the US’ current level. But he believes mid-July is very much on the table.

We’re getting closer ....

I just looked this up - how exactly does NB expect to be able to 'bubble' with an American State? How does that work? Show up at the border and if you can't produce documentation you live in Maine you're sent away? How does NB know if you've left the bubble/Maine - the US gov isn't going to track where you travel to for the NB provincial government to ensure you stay 'in the bubble' and don't travel to another state. Maine isn't going to restrict travel/tourism into the state so it would be no different than any other US state in terms of COVID.

Just the logistics of the whole thing would be crazy if you think about it. I really can't see either and Canadian or American Federal governments allowing it, but who knows.

 

[DisDee1982]

We want to go in October. We will all be fully vaccinated except my youngest. So I’m really interested to see what they do about kids.

We’re in the same boat. Planning a trip in October... I am fully expecting that my youngest will have to quarantine when we return. I’m fine with this. My husband can return to work and I’ll work from home while my youngest home schools for a couple weeks.
I’m pretty sure that I saw they were doing it this way in other countries (fully vaccinated travellers don’t have to quarantine, anyone not vaccinated isolates).
I’m just as interested as you but just can’t see it being simply allowed to send your kids back to school after travel this fall

 

[Minniemoo15]

The issue would be that Ontario is for some odd reason at least a month behind every other province for pretty much every activity you can think of. I fully expect over the next week or two for the provincial government to 'pivot' same as it did on outdoor activities last week.

Your guide to COVID-19 reopenings: what you can do — and when — in each province | CBC News



I just looked this up - how exactly does NB expect to be able to 'bubble' with an American State? How does that work? Show up at the border and if you can't produce documentation you live in Maine you're sent away? How does NB know if you've left the bubble/Maine - the US gov isn't going to track where you travel to for the NB provincial government to ensure you stay 'in the bubble' and don't travel to another state. Maine isn't going to restrict travel/tourism into the state so it would be no different than any other US state in terms of COVID.

Just the logistics of the whole thing would be crazy if you think about it. I really can't see either and Canadian or American Federal governments allowing it, but who knows.

I imagine it would be similar to the Atlantic Bubble we had last summer. If you were from one of tha Atlantic provinces you could travel in without self isolating. If you were from another province you were still allowed in but had to quarantine for 14 days. There are peace officers at all provincial border entry points. You pre register with the province to confirm eligibility, stop at the border to prove residency and answer questions (have you left the Atlantic bubble in the last 14 days?). You are allowed in without self isolating if all conditions were met. I suppose you could lie but you are running the risk of getting caught lying to a peace officer.

So if this goes ahead, I imagine Mainers would be allowed in without isolating while someone from say Florida, would be allowed in but with self isolation. Obviously it can’t happen until the government opens the border. Provinces are able to set their own isolation guidelines already so it’s really no different. Dh traveled internationally in Dec for work and upon return, federal isolation requirements were different than our provincial ones. When he asked about it, the Fed government told him to defer to provincial as they were more stringent.

It won’t be an issue for long anyway as by Aug 2 all restrictions in NB will (hopefully) be lifted and will default to federal guidelines.

 

[ellbell]

I imagine it would be similar to the Atlantic Bubble we had last summer. If you were from one of tha Atlantic provinces you could travel in without self isolating. If you were from another province you were still allowed in but had to quarantine for 14 days. There are peace officers at all provincial border entry points. You pre register with the province to confirm eligibility, stop at the border to prove residency and answer questions (have you left the Atlantic bubble in the last 14 days?). You are allowed in without self isolating if all conditions were met. I suppose you could lie but you are running the risk of getting caught lying to a peace officer.

So if this goes ahead, I imagine Mainers would be allowed in without isolating while someone from say Florida, would be allowed in but with self isolation. Obviously it can’t happen until the government opens the border. Provinces are able to set their own isolation guidelines already so it’s really no different. Dh traveled internationally in Dec for work and upon return, federal isolation requirements were different than our provincial ones. When he asked about it, the Fed government told him to defer to provincial as they were more stringent.

It won’t be an issue for long anyway as by Aug 2 all restrictions in NB will (hopefully) be lifted and will default to federal guidelines.

In your example though someone from Florida could come in but have to self isolate. Right now that isn't allowed anywhere else so then people would cross in Maine and go whereever they pleased.

 

[Minniemoo15]

In your example though someone from Florida could come in but have to self isolate. Right now that isn't allowed anywhere else so then people would cross in Maine and go whereever they pleased.

That’s why I said it is dependent on the federal border opening. Premier Higgs has said it won’t happen until the federal government opens the border. At that point Americans will be allowed in as per federal guidelines but Mainers may be exempt from self-isolating. Right now nobody can come into NB (self-isolating or not) - even my sister who lives in Alberta, owns property here and is totally willing to do a 14 day quarantine upon arrival.

 

[ronandannette]

Thank-you for sharing. Was interesting to listen to

Now that the findings of the government appointed Expert Panel (our tax dollars at work, folks) have made it clear they see no benefit in the Covid hotel scheme, I wonder why it hasn’t been summarily scrapped already? Of all the follies occurring since last March, I’d grudgingly just give the feds a pass and never speak of it again if they’d just can the freakin’ thing immediately.

 

[Duck1]

Now that the findings of the government appointed Expert Panel (our tax dollars at work, folks) have made it clear they see no benefit in the Covid hotel scheme, I wonder why it hasn’t been summarily scrapped already? Of all the follies occurring since last March, I’d grudgingly just give the feds a pass and never speak of it again if they’d just can the freakin’ thing immediately.

Couldn’t agree more. Another thing to consider is that the case challenging the constitutionality of these hotels is scheduled to be heard in another week. It would be a convenient time for the feds to scrap it before an unfavourable decision.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

Health Minister said the quarantine hotel isn't going away anytime soon...(scroll down to see)

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/o...sing-rules-vaxxed-travellers-it-needs-act-now

 

[ronandannette]

Health Minister said the quarantine hotel isn't going away anytime soon...(scroll down to see)

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/o...sing-rules-vaxxed-travellers-it-needs-act-now

Oh for Pete's sake...that's almost laughable after reading the report.