Ladies and Gentelman.... Ratatouille!

[rastuso]

I don't get the point, the ride spins, rotates, apparently vibrates and is trackless, this is not supposed to compare to any other ride, maybe mystic manor or pooh honey hunt, and if you compare it to them it has a lot more movement.

Comparing a cartoon ride to 2 rides with a more adult theme is unfair, and you are bound to end up disappointed.

Why not give it ago before you compare it to anything, and then take the ride for what it is.

I'm not comparing it to Spider-man. The linked review did, although not directly. Plus it says the car tilts. For some reason, I get attacked when I say the car doesn't tilt. Then others come in and say it's no big deal if the car doesn't tilt. So, I get attacked from both sides.

And the whole trackless issue is just meaningless. It is an unnecessary complexity for a ride such as this, or Mystic Manor especially. For Hunny Hunt, it adds a lot to have the grouping, and multiple paths, plus the chaos room. In a ride where a lot of it is in dark rooms, or the vehicles moving in a straight line, what's the point?

-Jason

 

[Malin]

I'm not comparing it to Spider-man. The linked review did, although not directly. Plus it says the car tilts. For some reason, I get attacked when I say the car doesn't tilt. Then others come in and say it's no big deal if the car doesn't tilt. So, I get attacked from both sides.

This is to be expected when everyone is speculating and making judgement based on a Youtube video that was recorded from a Go Pro camera with a hyper wide angle.

I personally think the attraction looks great and while not on a thrill level associated with Tower of Terror or Rock n Roller Coaster at the Park it offers a fun Disney dark ride experience. I personally don't feel it's underwhelming because it's exactly in line with my expectations. It was never going to be an upgraded Spider-man or was it ever hyped up to be... Instead it's a great family experience in a park that's seriously lacking in any and it's long overdue. Add in the area "Place de Remy" and the Restaurant and you have a beautiful new addition to the Studios. My only negative involves the noise levels from Toy Story Playland ruining the immersive atsmophere of "Place de Remy" with loud screams and audio from the rides.

 

[gavvy]

I'm not comparing it to Spider-man. The linked review did, although not directly. Plus it says the car tilts. For some reason, I get attacked when I say the car doesn't tilt. Then others come in and say it's no big deal if the car doesn't tilt. So, I get attacked from both sides.

And the whole trackless issue is just meaningless. It is an unnecessary complexity for a ride such as this, or Mystic Manor especially. For Hunny Hunt, it adds a lot to have the grouping, and multiple paths, plus the chaos room. In a ride where a lot of it is in dark rooms, or the vehicles moving in a straight line, what's the point?

-Jason

I don't think anyone is attacking you, its just unless you have been on the ride- and most of us haven't yet, then its (to me) impossible to say what the ride is like, you can argue the track is part of the immersion now as you become a rat and the cars look seemingly random, there is apparently more than one route each rat takes and cars depart in groups of 6 but pair up on some screens in groups of threes, I cant tell from the videos where the cars are moving, its a dark ride and most of the videos are just that- Dark!

The whole point of Disney is family attractions everyone can enjoy, surely this is more in line with that ethos than a big thrill ride.

 

[rastuso]

This is to be expected when everyone is speculating and making judgement based on a Youtube video that was recorded from a Go Pro camera with a hyper wide angle.

I personally think the attraction looks great and while not on a thrill level associated with Tower of Terror or Rock n Roller Coaster at the Park it offers a fun Disney dark ride experience. I personally don't feel it's underwhelming because it's exactly in line with my expectations. It was never going to be an upgraded Spider-man or was it ever hyped up to be... Instead it's a great family experience in a park that's seriously lacking in any and it's long overdue. Add in the area "Place de Remy" and the Restaurant and you have a beautiful new addition to the Studios. My only negative involves the noise levels from Toy Story Playland ruining the immersive atsmophere of "Place de Remy" with loud screams and audio from the rides.

I think the "hyper wide angle" issue is blown out of proportion. Your eyes have a pretty wide angle of viewing. If you are in the front row, you will see the floor. I don't see that as a huge issue, personally. In fact, if you couldn't see the floor, why worry about trackless? Now, should the floor be painted to match the scenery? Sure, that's immersion.

I think many people were expecting something similar to Spider-man. I know I was. UNTIL I saw the leaked layout drawings. THen I was pretty sure it wasn't close to SPider-man. I was still hoping it was going to be a top tier ride. I know some think it is. But PLENTY say it isn't. And since I don't go to Disney looking for gentle, family friendly rides (even when my son was young, I wanted big thrills for myself), I'm pretty sure I know where I'll land on this ride, if I'm lucky enough to ride it soon. I don't pay big bucks for Disney to build big rides that little kids are going to love, but fall short for me. Why would I? I want Disney to build rides I love. Especially when budgets are this big.

I'm glad I'm going in with very lowered expectations. Had I gone in, still hoping for Disney's answer to Spider-man (it has been 15 years, after all), I would be pretty disappointed with it.

Now I know it's a fairly tame ride, and not worthy of a detour back to Paris if there aren't soft openings.

It seems VERY similar to Dwarf Hill at the Magic Kingdom. If you want a very tame coaster, short and sweet, with one dark ride scene, you'll LOVE it. If you want a coaster that looks like the $100 million they spent on it, you'll be saying "that's it?"

-Jason

 

[A Small World]

Not sure how people can start to judge an attraction if they have never experienced it and are giving a review from a non professional youtube video?

I cannot wait to fully immerse myself in this whole new land before even making any comments on how good or bad it is. Can't judge something you haven't experienced

I agree with Emma here - I don't think its fair to judge an attraction simply by watching a video. I haven't watched the videos yet but will wait until I ride it before I decide if its a good addition or not

I think many people were expecting something similar to Spider-man. I know I was. UNTIL I saw the leaked layout drawings. THen I was pretty sure it wasn't close to SPider-man. I was still hoping it was going to be a top tier ride. I know some think it is. But PLENTY say it isn't. And since I don't go to Disney looking for gentle, family friendly rides (even when my son was young, I wanted big thrills for myself), I'm pretty sure I know where I'll land on this ride, if I'm lucky enough to ride it soon. I don't pay big bucks for Disney to build big rides that little kids are going to love, but fall short for me. Why would I? I want Disney to build rides I love. Especially when budgets are this big.

I'm glad I'm going in with very lowered expectations. Had I gone in, still hoping for Disney's answer to Spider-man (it has been 15 years, after all), I would be pretty disappointed with it.

Now I know it's a fairly tame ride, and not worthy of a detour back to Paris if there aren't soft openings.

It seems VERY similar to Dwarf Hill at the Magic Kingdom. If you want a very tame coaster, short and sweet, with one dark ride scene, you'll LOVE it. If you want a coaster that looks like the $100 million they spent on it, you'll be saying "that's it?"

-Jason

Bolded parts are mine - I don't think many people were expecting it to compare with Spiderman - Ive no idea what the spiderman ride is like and in all the discussions about this ride in the past few years Ive never heard it mentioned as a comparison.

Also you say you don't go to Disney looking for gentle family friendly rides but for thrill rides- however thats what Disney is about - mainly gentle family friendly rides. If you want a park full of thrill rides you go to Thorpe Park or Alton Towers in the UK or Magic Mountain in the States not Disney.

For me the attention to detail is what makes the ride for me and if this 'land' is half as good as Cars Land in DL then its Disney to me.

 

[Lisa_C]

And this ladies and gentleman, is why rushing to watch a second rate video causes controversy over new rides and editions to the Disneyland Park.
IMO, I feel that if I were going soon or near future, then maybe staying away from youtube, and/or reviews is a good idea. Make up your own mind about the ride when you go. Reading what someone else has writen can taint your view. As it has done here on some posters already. You will never get that bad vibe out of your system once your mind is made up you don't like something. Whether you've experienced it or not.
EVERYONE is entitled to their opionion, but making it personal towards people changes the theme of this post. If people do not agree, then fine (I'm aware this is off topic that this is off topic towards the title of this thread, but personally feel its alrwady got to that point!) but remember that telling someone their point of view is wrong, seems right to them. Healthy discussions make the Dis a friendly place to be :-D
I'm going over mid July to renew my pass and will experience first hand before I make up my mind. I haven't watched the videos, read reviews or looked at photos from the press release because I'm interested more in the ride technology side of it. I've followed from the conception and am very much looking forward to this new family ride. Yes I said FAMILY. It's Disney after all. Walt's playground for children and adults alike.

 

[rastuso]

This might be hard for you to believe but you are not the only person who visits and spends money at Disneyland Paris. I don't see why your needs should be put first before anyone else.

This might be hard for you to believe, but I don't care about how other people spend their money, or feel they get value at DLP.

It's like the FP+ arguments where some folks said "I'm happy more people are getting FPs". That's just insane, imho. I want as many FPs as I can get. And I want as many rides that I like as I can get.


-Jason

 

[Malin]

This might be hard for you to believe, but I don't care about how other people spend their money, or feel they get value at DLP.

Nope not hard to believe and it goes back to the "me, me, me" thing all over again... Don't like what Disney is doing then go spend your money else where would be my honest advice. Universal has some nice thrill rides which would better suit your needs

 

[rastuso]

Nope not hard to believe and it goes back to the "me, me, me" thing all over again... Don't like what Disney is doing then go spend your money else where would be my honest advice. Universal has some nice thrill rides which would better suit your needs

And my Orlando trip this year will be Universal based, with one evening at MK. Things have completely flipped for us.

I want Disney to keep building all sorts of rides. Great family rides, and great thrill rides. Sadly, the last great thrill ride they built was Indiana Jones, or Everest, if you consider that a big thrill ride.

-Jason

 

[DLPdaft]

I've deleted a couple of posts in this thread, as they were nothing more than personal messages from one poster to another, and leant nothing to the topic of the thread.

Remember, differences of opinion are absoutely fine, we will never all agree on anything, thats not the way the world works. Personal remarks/insults are not okay, and will be deleted.

Keep it friendly folks .

FWIW, I also think once we've experienced the new ride (as everyone on the thread apparently has/intends to do) then that might be the best time to discuss it.

 

[Jules1212]

Well, I would say that it is all subjective according to expectation or taste. I don't take too much notice of reviews if deciding to go to a play or film as I wait to see if the subject matter is attractive to me.

I have deliberately avoided any film of Ratatouille (the ride) as we go this weekend on the shareholders event and I want to 'judge' it on it's own merit. I saw a glimpse of the area a couple of weeks ago through a fence and thought how beautiful it looked.

As a family, we too love thrill rides (my kids are 15 and 13) and we have been to Alton Towers not too long ago which was great. But there is no 'in between' in a park like that. There are massive full on rides and also a teeny tots kind of land. Also, there is very little atmosphere. It was more than fine for what we wanted on that trip and I did love that the ride operators on The Smiler were very much 'in character' and scared me silly!

But with DLP, we love that we have a mix of bigger rides (Space mountain, TOT, RNR, Crush etc) and also those almost whimsical rides that if they were anywhere else we probably wouldn't bother with. And then the atmosphere too.

I really don't mind that this new attraction isn't a thrill ride (I wouldn't have been upset if it was either!), but Disneyland have to commit a huge sum of money to the largest crowd pleaser - circa 15,000,000 visitors a year have to be catered for. If they even please just half with this addition that is 7.5 million happy people!

 

[Trekkie101]

The ride system definitely tilts, it also happens to bounce a little as your onboard, the cars were designed not too long after the Mystic Manor cars - they're the upgrade to those.

I'm a fairly large lad and definitely wouldn't call them cramped or uncomfy by any means. Possibly one of the "loosest" restraints and largest legrooms you'll see on an attraction.

Utter nonsense about the last screen not being able to be seen in sunlight, the whole ride is enclosed and the unload area exists into the back of the restaurant. I don't think anyone who's been on has actually said this.

I consider it a strong contender for best family e-ticket, it truly does push the boundary of what can be done with ride technology and integration with 3D/architectural projection - sadly no video will ever be able to convey what the rides like or the experience of it.

I rode 9 times, while the story line remains the same each time, differences in order, sequencing, and different sub plots emerge as you ride. Depending on what way your rat goes, you either smell oranges (and not sprayed smell, but implanted on the object smell) or apples.

 

[Bexx]

I'm a fairly large lad and definitely wouldn't call them cramped or uncomfy by any means. Possibly one of the "loosest" restraints and largest legrooms you'll see on an attraction.

Utter nonsense about the last screen not being able to be seen in sunlight, the whole ride is enclosed and the unload area exists into the back of the restaurant. I don't think anyone who's been on has actually said this.

It's okay, Rastuso was saying that these are criticisms that people are making of the new Seven Dwarfs mine train in WDW, not of our new Remy ride.

 

[juttawdw]

I was wandering anyone noticed the disabled entrance os this like the other atraction via the exit?

I was also reading cars a "spacy" i am not able to bend my knee further then 45 degrees do you think i would fit in?
I won't fit in the snowwhite or pinnochio cars.

 

[Ms Poppins]

I'm more excited about the whole area/theme than the actual ride itself. I think it all looks beautiful and have followed along closely with the constuction of it.

I've not heard of previous comparisons to Spiderman or any other ride (even if i had, i wouldn't know anything about it given the fact that i didn't know that a Spiderman ride existed ) so I am quite glad that is more aimed at all the family. I remember my youngest DS being a bit upset that he couldn't get on Crush when it came out so I had hoped that the same wouldn't occur with Ratatoullie.

Oh and my 20 year old DS is excited about it too

Can't wait to see it for myself in October

 

[markpsych]

I'm more excited about the whole area/theme than the actual ride itself. I think it all looks beautiful

My thoughts exactly

 

[jillrobinson]

Caved in and watched a Ratatouille video last night, was neither under or over whelmed by it, but I am most definitely looking forward to experiencing the ride, the restaurant and the atmosphere for myself in October.

 

[cherrymarzipan]

Went on this this afternoon with our AP soft opening, the sun was shining and the whole land looked beautifully themed and very established considering it is all brand new. There are loads of details to find, DS loved the man-hole covers with Remy with his fish slice on them. As for the ride itself, we thought it was great, very different from anything else at DLP and again with so much detail to discover it is a ride worth doing many times as there is so much going on. It is not a thrill ride but IMHO it is high time there was a new non-thrill ride to compliment the long established family attractions. I loved the mix of film in which you feel totally immersed and giant props. It's quite sensory with a few surprises but no nasty shocks. The "vehicles" are roomy with plenty of leg room and very smooth running - it's lovely to not have that jerking you get with Peter Pan's Flight and the like. My DH has real problems sitting on those as he cannot bend his legs properly (he has to sit sort of sideways on a row on his own) and although he wasn't with us on this trip I think he would find this far easier AND his back wouldn't be jarred.

From a disabled point of view, the disabled entrance shares the fast pass entrance until you reach the boarding gates. From here though you are redirected further away and it is VERY slow with only one wheelchair and one non-wheelchair vehicle operating. We had to wait half an hour at one time with only one couple in front of us and the worst thing is there is no bench or anything to sit on while you wait. For those like my DS who find queueing hard anyway and physically find standing for any time difficult this was a real thumbs down. We are going again tomorrow and I will try and just fast pass him in which will be much quicker but at other attractions when I have not bothered with the disabled pass because the ride was a walk on anyway he has been spotted and we have been made to use the disabled route and I do understand the concern with safety procedures if a ride breaks down.

My other bug-bear is that the disabled toilets are not separate which means I either have to take my adult disabled son past the men's urinals which as a female I am a bit uncomfortable with or into the ladies, which can also cause initial surprise. I really had hoped that a new attraction would address this.

The restaurant wasn't open so we weren't able to assess this, or the shop either, but as an area and a ride I was very impressed. DS really wants to go again too and we are looking forward to returning tomorrow for the shareholder's turn.

 

[Jonjo]

If you get the opportunity tomorrow go into the pre-show area, the views of the Parisian roof tops and the sounds from the streets below is great and the video intro by Gusteau is fun and plays in both English and French. The shop Chez Marianne is scheduled to open in the Autumn, as this was a late addition to La Place de Remy.

 

[juttawdw]

Thanks for the info Cherrymarzipan