Kudos to John McCain

[shortbun]

I'd just like to point out that being an "Arab" doesn't make someone bad. I wish McCain had pointed that out too. Obama is an American- I'm not voting for him but he is NOT the anti-christ and he is NOT a Terrorist- he's shown some questionable judgement (in my opinion) for hanging with Ayers and Wright..... but he is NOT out to destroy the country.

You're right, of course, that being an Arab does not 'make' anyone bad. That is true, unless the speaker or listener is a racist and already thinks ill of anyone who is not a Wasp. Our country is populated by millions who think just that way and the McCain camp knows it because most of them support McCain hence the (not so) whispers of Sarah Palin, Cindy McCain and even John McCain('who is this Barack Obama?).

 

[chobie]

If there were any doubt before, McCain is now officially a putz.

Because he's trying to mitigate some of the ugliness rather than kicking it up a notch?

 

[bicker]

Perhaps corndog wrote that because McCain is trying to mitigate some of the ugliness and the following it up with statements that can be construed by the ugliness as an invitation to ignore the mitigation.

 

[castleview]

Horse pooh! The Obama campaign hasn't fostered hatred for Senator McCain or questioned his patriotism. Senator Obama's wife didn't talk about 'cold chills' when referring to Senator McCain. Senator Biden has talked about Senator McCain's policies (or lack thereof) not his integrity.

I'm sorry, but Obama's campaign is playing the class warfare game and that is always dangerous. When you preach to people that they are victims and have rights to things other people work for, you're doing all you can to kill personal responsibility and productivity in the country.

Having said that, I'm glad McCain said "you don't need to be scared of an Obama presidency." We do have a system of checks and balances in this country that I believe in. Before anyone says "yeah, well look at the economy", please remember it was both the Republicans and Democrats that failed you...as well as We, the People.

 

[chobie]

I'm sorry, but Obama's campaign is playing the class warfare game and that is always dangerous. When you preach to people that they are victims and have rights to things other people work for, you're doing all you can to kill personal responsibility and productivity in the country.

Having said that, I'm glad McCain said "you don't need to be scared of an Obama presidency." We do have a system of checks and balances in this country that I believe in. Before anyone says "yeah, well look at the economy", please remember it was both the Republicans and Democrats that failed you...as well as We, the People.

Oh please. It's Palin and her "Joe six pack" vs. the "elite" that is the class warfare.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

I'm sorry, but Obama's campaign is playing the class warfare game and that is always dangerous. When you preach to people that they are victims and have rights to things other people work for, you're doing all you can to kill personal responsibility and productivity in the country.

Having said that, I'm glad McCain said "you don't need to be scared of an Obama presidency." We do have a system of checks and balances in this country that I believe in. Before anyone says "yeah, well look at the economy", please remember it was both the Republicans and Democrats that failed you...as well as We, the People.

Senator Obama says John McCain's tax plans give more money to the wealthy. He says McCain seldom mentions the middle class. That's playing the 'class warfare game'? Nonsense.

The McCain campaign's rhetoric: 'who is Barack Obama, 'associating with domestic terrorist', 'voted against funding the troops', etc. I'll stick to my original point. The campaign (along with Hannity, Limbaugh and most of Faux News) incites idiots.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Oh please. It's Palin and her "Joe six pack" vs. the "elite" that is the class warfare.

 

[Goofycampers]

This indignation from the Obama supporters is beyond hypocritical. I guess none of you saw the negative ads about McCain that showed him with some kind of skin cancer and basically said he would be dead soon. And what about that photographer that took his picture and then morphed them to look like blood was coming out of his mouth. Not to mention all the disgusting things OS and the MSM have said about Sara Palin and her FAMILY. I agree that negative campaigning just deflects the issues. But please don't act as if Obama is the innocent. If McCain focused on Obama's liberal record -what little record there is that would be all he'd need. Most people including Democrats are not that liberal in their thinking. If they were this election would never have been this close.

 

[*Fantasia*]

That was a good move on his part but it's a bummer that his running mate let the ugly and untrue genie out of the bottle. In the same clip, he also says to not let his (McCain's) comment curb anyone's ferocity.


He's a day late and few dollars short but good on him for kinda trying.

agree.

 

[BuckNaked]

So, McCain is a liar?

Not at all related to what I replied to, which I'm sure you knew before you posted.

What Gov. Palin brought out again, that Sen. Obama associates with a self-confessed and unrepentant terrorist, is indeed ugly, but not untrue. And the ugly is on Sen. Obama, not on Gov. Palin.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

This indignation from the Obama supporters is beyond hypocritical. I guess none of you saw the negative ads about McCain that showed him with some kind of skin cancer and basically said he would be dead soon. And what about that photographer that took his picture and then morphed them to look like blood was coming out of his mouth. Not to mention all the disgusting things OS and the MSM have said about Sara Palin and her FAMILY. I agree that negative campaigning just deflects the issues. But please don't act as if Obama is the innocent. If McCain focused on Obama's liberal record -what little record there is that would be all he'd need. Most people including Democrats are not that liberal in their thinking. If they were this election would never have been this close.

I haven't seen the ads you're referring to. Were those ads actually sponsored by the Obama campaign? If you'd provide a link I'd appreciate it. I personally think McCain is in grave danger of dying in office if he's elected because of the type of cancer he had/has. It's a personal belief because my own brother (a retired U.S. Army Colonel) died from melanoma that was originally staged as I believe Senator McCain's 2nd cancer was staged.

If Senator McCain focused solely on true statements about Senator Obama's record, policies and statements I'd be proud of him and of his campaign.

Senator Obama's campaign has not attacked Governor Palin personally nor responded to her ridiculous rhetoric.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Not at all related to what I replied to, which I'm sure you knew before you posted.

What Gov. Palin brought out again, that Sen. Obama associates with a self-confessed and unrepentant terrorist, is indeed ugly, but not untrue. And the ugly is on Sen. Obama, not on Gov. Palin.

So all those Republicans in Chicago who 'associate with Mr. Ayers' are 'indeed ugly' and need to be chastised? The Annenberg Foundation needs to be chastised? The University of Chicago? Please.

 

[FinallyBoughtDVC]

Oh please. It's Palin and her "Joe six pack" vs. the "elite" that is the class warfare.

I try to have my children aspire to be one of the "elite" aka highly educated, well-informed, tolerant of all.

I just don't want my kids to aspire to be "Joe Sixpack".

I am still trying to figure out when being highly educated and pursuing a college (never mind Ivy League) education became a thing to be ashamed of in this country, while being "Joe Sixpack" is something to be admired.

It's disgraceful, really.

 

[Laura]

Oh please. It's Palin and her "Joe six pack" vs. the "elite" that is the class warfare.

Not to mention hockey moms vs. east coast politicians.

 

[ChrisFL]

I try to have my children aspire to be one of the "elite" aka highly educated, well-informed, tolerant of all.

I just don't want my kids to aspire to be "Joe Sixpack".

I am still trying to figure out when being highly educated and pursuing a college (never mind Ivy League) education became a thing to be ashamed of in this country, while being "Joe Sixpack" is something to be admired.

It's disgraceful, really.

Exactly, I want the President or VP to be the highest educated person possible, in both school and in learning about the world and foreign affairs.

 

[bicker]

I haven't seen the ads you're referring to. Were those ads actually sponsored by the Obama campaign?

No. What is interesting is that folks who claim that the Republican campaign should be held faultless with regard to the irresponsible ads of their supporters fail to grant the same consideration to the Democratic campaign. It's that old Republican campaign double-standard; they can do no wrong, and the other side can do no right.

The reality is that only objective evidence matters, which is why I do not factor John McCain's history of cancer in when I post the objective estimate of Palin succeeding him as President. We don't have an independent evaluation of the cancer, so for objective comparisons, like likelihood of dying, we have to accept the information we do have available. Yet, even then, that old Republican campaign double-standard refused to acknowledge just how much more likely Palin would become President if McCain was elected, and instead they treat every negative insinuation, every bit of negative innuendo, and every subjective negative implication associated with Obama as gospel truth. It is duplicitous conduct of intellectual dishonesty, plain and simple.

Both sides are engaging in personal attacks. McCain/Palin started it, so they lose standing there, but after that, it is all noise. Voters are correct to ignore all personal attacks, and evaluate the candidates solely on their positions and platforms.

If you'd provide a link I'd appreciate it. I personally think McCain is in grave danger of dying in office if he's elected because of the type of cancer he had/has. It's a personal belief because my own brother (a retired U.S. Army Colonel) died from melanoma that was originally staged as I believe Senator McCain's 2nd cancer was staged.

Fair enough, but we don't have enough information to factor that into the evaluation. Instead, we can only go on the objective data, which is that his chances of dying in office, if elected, would be about 30%. Of course, that's far far far more than enough to be critically concerned about the possibility of a Palin ascendency.

 

[LanaJayne]

Not at all related to what I replied to, which I'm sure you knew before you posted.

What Gov. Palin brought out again, that Sen. Obama associates with a self-confessed and unrepentant terrorist, is indeed ugly, but not untrue. And the ugly is on Sen. Obama, not on Gov. Palin.

Take a peek at the Annenberg Foundation members.

1. Walter & Leonore Annenberg - founder who gave Bill Ayers a $49M grant. His widow, Leonore, has endorsed McCain. In fact, just yesterday the McCain Campaign released its list of Ambassadors supporting him. It included, Mrs. Annenberg, a former "chief of protocol" at the State Dep't under the Reagan Administration. A Republican, she also DONATED THE MAX OF $2300 TO McCAIN'S CAMPAIGN IN MAY 2008.

According to Opensecrets.com, she has donated to Republican candidates George W Bush, Fred Thompson, Arlen Spector, Rick Santorum, Jon Kyle, Elizabeth Dole, Bob Dole, Richard Shelby, John Warner,David Dreier, Olympia Snowe, Jon Fox and Christine Todd Whitman.

Have each of these GOP candidates refunded her money because she's got a "domestic terrorist" on her own Board or because she gave that "domestic terrorist" a $49 million grant before Obama was on the Board?


It appears Bill Ayers' past as a Vietnam protester has been forgiven by the Republicans. If not, why has the money received from the Annenbergs (who appointed Ayers to their board) not been declined by so many republicans?

 

[Goofycampers]

Your hysteria over a "Palin ascendency" is amusing to alot of Republicans. Palin has more experience with Govenering than Obama and she is running for VICE PRESIDENT. Is she were to become president she is still more qualified than Obama. You may not like her but the fact is she is. If you looked at the job of president like any other job and compared resumes obama wouldn't even get to the first interview. A presidential campaign is becoming a popularity contest. Scarey. I don't like his associations, but I especially don't like the way he has handled the questions. He seems dishonest to me. That's jmho.

 

[LuvDuke]

There's only one reason why John McCain has decided to slither on the high road. The low road wasn't good for John McCain or his party. The GOP is taking a beating all across the country and in races they never dreamed they'd have to actually compete. More than likely, the GOP told McCain to tone it down.

However, the negative campaining did achieve one thing: It bit McCain, Palin, and the GOP in the ***. Go, Johnny, go.

 

[What the Heck]

There is a certain odd comfort in knowing what will be posted by some before it's posted.

Yep, exactly! All the people who are going to say "I agree but..." Maybe we should help them out by giving them options:

- it took so long for him to say it
- he's still evil because of the Keating 5
- he's only doing it as a political ploy
- Other

Now, if only we could create check boxes for them too (I'm not sure how) then they could save all that typing!

(Was there a talking point I missed?)