Kudos to John McCain

[Alaska Catdog]

So I read the first couple of pages of this thread and it's a bunch of Obama supporters talking about how great it was to see McCain exhibiting some class when he defended Obama against unfounded attacks by his (McCains) supporters. I think cool finally some true statesmenship in this election.
I jump to the end of the thread and it's a bunch of McCain supporters attacking Obama because he knows a someone who committed a heinous act 40 years ago. You people are crazy. Get back to the issues.
It's clear to me now that conservatives are like unschooled guard dogs (dare I say pit bulls) who will stop at nothing to progress their agenda. This thread was to commend the spirit in which McCain defended the respectability of Obama and you have turned it into a thread with no honor and no respect. Shame on you.

 

[BuckNaked]

So I read the first couple of pages of this thread and it's a bunch of Obama supporters talking about how great it was to see McCain exhibiting some class when he defended Obama against unfounded attacks by his (McCains) supporters. I think cool finally some true statesmenship in this election.

I guess you skipped over the first two responses by Obama supporters.

This thread was to commend the spirit in which McCain defended the respectability of Obama and you have turned it into a thread with no honor and no respect. Shame on you.[/QUOTE]

The second response:

Oh now he is saying that, after a week of hate smears!

Yeah, that post just oozed commendation of McCain for his remarks.

I agree, shame on those posters.

 

[DawnCt1]

Riiiight, that's why a majority of economists and experts like Warren Buffet support Obama's plan for the economy

Warren Buffet is not an economist. He is an expert at making money....for himself. I would guess at this point in his life he has minimal earned income and like the Kerry/Heinz's lives on his capital gains. And secondly, he has been and is, a life long liberal. Taxes paid by others are fine with him.

 

[basas]

So I read the first couple of pages of this thread and it's a bunch of Obama supporters talking about how great it was to see McCain exhibiting some class when he defended Obama against unfounded attacks by his (McCains) supporters. I think cool finally some true statesmenship in this election.
I jump to the end of the thread and it's a bunch of McCain supporters attacking Obama because he knows a someone who committed a heinous act 40 years ago. You people are crazy. Get back to the issues.
It's clear to me now that conservatives are like unschooled guard dogs (dare I say pit bulls) who will stop at nothing to progress their agenda. This thread was to commend the spirit in which McCain defended the respectability of Obama and you have turned it into a thread with no honor and no respect. Shame on you.

Did we read the same thread? Sure I saw some OS say that they appreciated McCain’s defense of Barack Obama yesterday, but I also saw a poster say that McCain has incited idiots, a poster say “Let McCain wear the fleas of the dogs he's been laying with”, and an accusation that McCain was attempting to begin a race war, among others.

But it’s all just been OS talking about how great it was to see McCain exhibiting class and commending the spirit in which McCain defended the respectability of Obama, right?

 

[Goofycampers]

Palin has more experience governing poorly, and working to impose her religious perspective on those she governs. Her ascendency isn't most concerning because of her inexperience, but rather because of how her stated intentions attack freedom.

Many US Sentators have been deemed to be excellent Presidents, such as John F. Kennedy, and many US governors have not, such as Jimmy Carter. As a matter of fact, Jimmy Carter was governor of Georgia twice as long as Palin was governor of Alaska. Alaska's population is approximately 7% that of Georgia, and Alaska's economy is about 10% that of Georgia. No, having governance experience is no predictor of performance of a President.

Under a man who, best case, relying only on objective measures and therefore ignoring his history of cancer, still leaves a 30% chance of him dying in office and therefore Palin succeeding him. That inescapable truth is something that the McCain/Palin campaign is trying and failing to run away from now.

Incorrect. Obama would get an interview, and Palin would not.

That's your subjective and perhaps highly biased opinion, whereas Palin, now, evidently, is untrustworthy, as determined by a bipartisan panel of her peers.

Your arguments make no sense. Sarah Palin has an 80% approval rating in her home state. Just 'cause you liberals say something doesn't make it so.

 

[Alaska DogCat]

Your arguments make no sense. Sarah Palin has an 80% approval rating in her home state. Just 'cause you liberals say something doesn't make it so.

Alaska Senator Ted Stevens, currently on trial for corruption also has a favorable rating in my state of Alaska and is winning in the polls for re-election. I am inclined to think my state of Alaska is a wee bit different from most states. I am betting that in most states, the indicted Senator would have more of an uphill battle to have a favorable rating. Same with Sarah Palin.

Politics here are different than anything else in this country. In my short 13 years here, we've had a (Republican) candidate (he won the primary) for Governor with proven ties to the Chicago mafia who was paying for his candidacy, a legislator (and friend of Palin for 30 years) who moved to Oregon and continued representing his district for two terms, a candidate for State Senate who convinced many Alaskans the state had sold part of itself to Russia and a Governor (the man Sarah Palin defeated) whose chief of staff is now a convicted felon and whose court of supporters (four Republican legislators so far) are in prison for selling their votes to the oil industry.

I don't think you want to use this state as the benchmark for what the average American would support--including Governor Palin. She has a high favorable rating partly because politics here are so surreal. As the saying goes, "the odds are good, but the goods are odd..."

 

[legalsea]

McCain love bump!

 

[Goofycampers]

Alaska Senator Ted Stevens, currently on trial for corruption also has a favorable rating in my state of Alaska and is winning in the polls for re-election. I am inclined to think my state of Alaska is a wee bit different from most states. I am betting that in most states, the indicted Senator would have more of an uphill battle to have a favorable rating. Same with Sarah Palin.

Politics here are different than anything else in this country. In my short 13 years here, we've had a (Republican) candidate (he won the primary) for Governor with proven ties to the Chicago mafia who was paying for his candidacy, a legislator (and friend of Palin for 30 years) who moved to Oregon and continued representing his district for two terms, a candidate for State Senate who convinced many Alaskans the state had sold part of itself to Russia and a Governor (the man Sarah Palin defeated) whose chief of staff is now a convicted felon and whose court of supporters (four Republican legislators so far) are in prison for selling their votes to the oil industry.

I don't think you want to use this state as the benchmark for what the average American would support--including Governor Palin. She has a high favorable rating partly because politics here are so surreal. As the saying goes, "the odds are good, but the goods are odd..."

I wasn't using Alaska for a benchmark for what average Americans would support. Just stating the facts. It's interesting to me when the OS's are presented with the facts, you all just seem to poo poo them away.

 

[perla75]

I beleive john mccain is a decent man led down a dark path by rove and his ilk.....even he must now see the destructiveness of the past couple of weeks!!

I 100% agree with what you said here. I am an Obama supporter, but I also think that McCain is a decent man-maybe just made blinded a bit along the way. I was very impressed with his statement & it reminded me of the man I used to think he was before all this ugly campaign slander.

 

[ChrisFL]

Warren Buffet is not an economist. He is an expert at making money....for himself. I would guess at this point in his life he has minimal earned income and like the Kerry/Heinz's lives on his capital gains. And secondly, he has been and is, a life long liberal. Taxes paid by others are fine with him.

And yet somehow both Obama and McCain think he would make a good choice for Treasury Secretary, so maybe they BOTH know something about his expertise

 

[JARNJ3]

I think McCain let the "cat out of the bag" with his recent negative campaigning....... I wonder if it will be able to be put back in.....

On another note - it constantly amazes me to see some clergy members' intolerance of other religions........ I can't help but think God wouldn't like the denigration of others who worship Him in a different way......

Speaker at McCain rally says non-Christians want an Obama win
Posted: 09:30 PM ET

From CNN Political Producer Tasha Diakides
A pastor at a McCain rally said non-Christians are hoping for an Obama win.

DAVENPORT, Iowa (CNN) – A minister delivering the invocation at John McCain’s rally in Davenport, Iowa Saturday told the crowd non-Christian religions around the world were praying for Barack Obama to win the U.S. presidential election.

“There are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens,” said Arnold Conrad, the former pastor of Grace Evangelical Free Church in Davenport.

The remark was made before McCain arrived at the rally but the Republican nominee's campaign quickly put out a statement distancing itself from the remarks.

“While we understand the important role that faith plays in informing the votes of Iowans, questions about the religious background of the candidates only serve to distract from the real questions in this race about Barack Obama's judgment, policies and readiness to lead as commander in chief,” said McCain campaign spokesperson Wendy Riemann.

This incident comes a day after a Minnesota voter asked Senator McCain if Barack Obama was an Arab at a town hall in Lakeville, Minnesota and just three days after Lehigh GOP County Chairman Bill Platt made a speech at a McCain rally in Pennsylvania where he refered to the Democrat nominee for president as Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[corndog]

And yet somehow both Obama and McCain think he would make a good choice for Treasury Secretary, so maybe they BOTH know something about his expertise

Or rather both do not know about his expertise!

 

[BuckNaked]

Can anyone explain what the big deal was about the sheriff using Sen. Obama's full name? His middle name is Hussein, is it not? Is it now a slur to include a middle name when speaking of someone?

 

[ChrisFL]

Can anyone explain what the big deal was about the sheriff using Sen. Obama's full name? His middle name is Hussein, is it not? Is it now a slur to include a middle name when speaking of someone?

If you can't see why, then it's not worth explaining

 

[BuckNaked]

If you can't see why, then it's not worth explaining

No, I don't see what the big deal is, other than Obama supporters looking for something else to use in their never ending cry of "racism!!!!!"

It's his name, big deal.

 

[WeLoveNemo]

Back to the theme of this thread: Senator McCain took a stand against a bigot who thought she was attending a town hall meeting where racism would be embraced.

The way I see it this campaign, as it is being run now, has two outcomes for Senator McCain:

1. The fires of racism and fear that have been stoked, whether you believe is a result of his campaign team's interventions or not, cause a turn in the current polls and John McCain wins. Then, at a time of crisis that our nation has never seen before, a president is elected under divisive circumstances and leaves us a divided and disgusted nation.

2. Senator McCain loses and an entire career spent serving this nation ends on one note - hatred and racism.

My advice for Senator McCain, just run for the honor to lead this country on your own ideas and merits.

Ditch your advisors, they have steered you wrong.

 

[BuckNaked]

1. The fires of racism and fear that have been stoked, whether you believe is a result of his campaign team's interventions or not, cause a turn in the current polls and John McCain wins. Then, at a time of crisis that our nation has never seen before, a president is elected under divisive circumstances and leaves us a divided and disgusted nation.

We're going to be a divided and disgusted nation no matter who wins.

 

[disneyfan67]

We're going to be a divided and disgusted nation no matter who wins.

That's about the most truthful post I have read today.

To quote Leonard Nimoy about your post above: That much is certain....

 

[Biscuitsmom31]

So much for my kudos thread. Reason and respect are difficult for some. Okay...many.

 

[BuckNaked]

So much for my kudos thread. Reason and respect are difficult for some. Okay...many.

Just to be clear Biscuitsmom31, I think your thread and the meaning behind it was right on target, and I appreciate your sentiment. Unfortunately, the first couple of posters to respond obviously couldn't stand the thought of anything nice being said about a political opponent, thus the tone changed from that point on.