kids with dairy and food sensitivity/allergy.....update

luvdzne

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A little history:

My dd7 has had severe temper tantrum issues since she was very little. We have just always looked at it as this was the way she was, very moody, easy to set off, gets upset over little things. No matter what she is told to do there is usually a tantrum involved and a battle to get something done if she will even do it.

She is in the first grade, very smart, towards the top of the class, however she has had a hard time completing her work, gets easily distracted, cries if things don't go her way, etc.....

I had a meeting with her teacher last Friday about how this behavior is going to effect her next year in 2nd grade and beyond. We talked about some of her behavior at home and how she has severe temper tantrums and how she is easily agitated over the smallest of things.

The teacher started talking about how similar in some ways my dd was to her dd now in 8th grade. The similarities were astonishing. Somehow we got on the subject of how my dd was a huge milk drinker, and she said how her dd was too and that someone had told her to try knocking out milk from her dd's diet. She said there was a definite difference in her behavior.

We stopped dd from drinking milk on Friday (was kind of tough for dd at first as milk is her drink of choice) By Saturday she was a totally different child. We were able to tell her to do something and she just did it without throwing a fit. She didn't have tantrums all weekend and she seemed much calmer.

On Saturday she decided she wanted to learn to ride her 2 wheeler, something she wanted no part of and refused to even ride her bike all last summer. Within an hour dd was riding her 2 wheeler. Now this may seem like a simple thing, but normally she would have given up after the first try of not being able to do it and would have been screaming and having a fit. But she calmly kept trying until she got it.

She seemed very much more in control of herself, we were able to reason with her, carry on a normal converstation with her without her getting angry and upset about something. She did not seem to be as easily agitated as she normally is. She is a totally different child.

I am wondering if anyone else has a child that is a huge milk drinker that is very explosive and with similar behavior tendencies? I have tried googling it and found a few things to do with milk and behavior, but very little.
 
Similar things happened to me when I was little then my parents and doctor realized I had some food allergies. Once I was taken off of those foods I was just fine.

Wishing you the best of luck.
 
We had a similar experience with DS when we took him off milk at age 3. He is just about 4 now. He was never a huge milk drinker but drank a healthy amount. I think, from articles I have read and research I have done, that he is lactose intolerant and we just didn't know. He couldn't digest milk-based or soy-based formulas or breast-milk as an infant but he also had other preemie related health issues. I have a lot of questions about all this for his pediatrician at his 4 yr. check up next month.

His behavior changed drastically too. He would cry over every thing before. He didn't do well with changes. He was just a cranky kid, but had been since the day he was born. He was also having lots of messy accidents, even though he was potty-trained. It was easy to blame that on his attitude.

We have him on soy milk now and it really seems to balance him. He is much calmer, not as shy and is an enjoyable kid now. It never occurred to me that milk could be his problem until someone else suggested it, just like you.

Good luck!!!
 
wow I'll have to look into food allergies. My ds is a lot like the kids described BUT he never drinks milk. I don't think he's ever had more than a sip.

I never considered that food allergies could effect his behavior but maybe it is worth looking into.
 

Yep..one of my sons friends has this allergy. He is 12 and can't have milk or egg products. Makes it very hard to make brownies or cookies for the Boy Scout campouts!
I was talking to his mom about it and she says she knows when he has had milk. His tone changes, his attitude changes and she just does not like him.

Lisa
 
Is there a way of testing for food allergies? Dum question I'm sure but I would think there would be an easier way than cutting out everything and trying them back one by one.
 
Depending on the allergist you go to they can either do skin testing or blood tests. But they do recommend you keep a food diary for about 2 weeks and note any and all symptoms you can. I'm not a fan of skin testing because for me it isn't at all accurate. Some doctors don't think blood tests are accurate. :confused3 Over the years I've learned my body so I know what I am allergic to and how it reacts so that is how I know the blood test is more accurate for me.
 
I was a huge milk dairy person and both my children have milk protein intolerance. Makes them crabby and irritable and their ears turn red.
Since it is not a "true" allergy it doesn't show up in scratch allergen testing.
 
Wow- luvdzne- your dd sounds ALOT like my dd same age, same attitude, same problems- however mine is diagnosed w/ autism spectrum disorder. I never changed her diet. But now I'm totally intriqued. I always thought an aversion to milk would be purely physical (dealing w/ stomach problems etc.) not behavioral.

I would be very interested in her progess, if you will please keep us posted.
Thanks. :)
 
ok as an adult with lactosee/mmilk protien intolerance issues,, let me point out that in some cases,( mine included) the body reacts to milk as an intoxixcant, i can litterally get drunk on milk, then have mood swings, etc, as the milk wears off. its not as common as the tummy problems associated with lactose intolerance but it does and can happen.
 
dbal said:
Wow- luvdzne- your dd sounds ALOT like my dd same age, same attitude, same problems- however mine is diagnosed w/ autism spectrum disorder. I never changed her diet. But now I'm totally intriqued. I always thought an aversion to milk would be purely physical (dealing w/ stomach problems etc.) not behavioral.

I would be very interested in her progess, if you will please keep us posted.
Thanks. :)

There have been quite a few people that I know that have kids on the spectrum that had a lot of success with a casein free diet. Many of the kids seem to have an intolerance for milk products and when they're cut out their behavior improves. It doesn't "cure" the autism, but it helps the symptoms.
 
Been there with my 4 year old!!! He is allergic to wheat, american cheese and citrus, he was A NIGHTMARE at times before we found out what was wrong.

It is worth doing an allergy test (although they are not fun!)

Christy
 
I have a friend who's son was like that..they cut out the dairy and he is a different kid. I don't have my daughter drink milk at all anymore, I just don't feel it is healthy with all the added hormones etc. She can get calcium form other things.
 
Sounds like a food allergy. Please have her tested. The tests are not fun. They hurt. But you find out so much info. I was amazed at the foods I was allergic to. I already knew about the grasses, weeds and trees. Food allergies run rampant in my family. I have seen all kinds of behavioral issues w/ cousins b/c they were eating stuff they were allergic to. It is very hard to get kids to cooperate all the time, especially when they can't have the fun foods that everyone else is enjoying.

Good luck. I hope all goes well.
 
OMG! Tonight I am at my wit's end with DS. He is 7, at the top of his class (reading & math at a 3rd grade level at the beginning of 1st grade), has been a sweet child but over the past few months has developed a terrible temper. He has been hitting & kicking at DH & I. Now I am left to deal with him on my own since DH is oot on business. This is wearing me out & tears me apart inside to watch him. He has screamed for almost an hour from what started as him being upset. He drinks a ton of water & his other choice is milk. He doesn't eat anything else dairy except for yogurt sometimes.

Reading these posts has let me see that there might be a medical reason for his behavior. I am going to call his pediatrician in the morning to set up an appointment to discuss this with him. Thank you!
 
lbgraves said:
Reading these posts has let me see that there might be a medical reason for his behavior. I am going to call his pediatrician in the morning to set up an appointment to discuss this with him. Thank you!

Different pediatricians have different views on food intolerances. Our pediatricians (both male) said since it wasn't a true allergy to keep feeding our son dairy. And our son and our family suffered by following their advice.
Other pediatricians advise moms of especially crabby babies to try a 12 week milk and milk product hiatus to see if it helps.

We took our son for scratch testing at about 2. All scratch tests came back negative. The allergist said the tests may not work well for young children because their immune systems are immature. He went on to say that he himself tested negative for turkey allergies but got the "turkey trots" if he consumed turkey.

They used to think that food would be totally broken down to nurtients so would not pass through the blood brain barrier. Now they know that some compounds do escape into the bloodstream before being totally broken down, especially proteins. Milk protein forms a compound called caseiomorphine if i remember properly properly, and does travel to the brain.
 
Wow, I am finding this very interesting. I am glad I decided to post this.

Again today, no milk and she still has been a pleasure, wow 5 days and no huge explosions :woohoo: . She wanted a glass of milk really bad after school today, I told her we were still doing a milk experiment and needed to stop drinking milk for a while. Instead of throwing her fit and screaming, I was able to reason with her, I told her that if she gave up milk for a while I would give up chocolate, then she asked me what her dad and sister would give up, so I asked her what she wanted them to give up. She thought for a moment and said her sister had to give up chocolate too and her dad had to give up beer :rotfl2: . I just cannot tell you how amazed I am with this, before it would have been an hour of tantrums and me just finally giving up because I was at my wits end.

I have a few more questions. How do they test for food allergies? Do they do a scratch test and is there a certain group of foods? I like the idea with the food diary. I am going to start that tomorrow, as well documenting any behaviors and moods changes.

Also for those that have taken dairy out of the diet, has it just been milk, or anything containing any dairy products?

Since I noticed such a drastic change in just removing the milk it sort of makes me wonder if it is milk in general or if organic milk would be better. Right now we are going to try being off milk for a week and then try gradually introducing the organic slowly (and never in the amount she had been drinking ) to see what happens.

I am also calling the allergist tomorrow to try to make an appointment. I so want to dig deeper into this. I have asked doctors about her behavior several times through the years and they just give me different ideas on how to deal with it, never any possible reason for it.

Thank you for the responses, keep them coming :thumbsup2

By the way, DMIL talked to dd on the phone Saturday when she was telling grandma about learning to ride her bike. DMIL talked to dh afterwards and asked if we had dd in speech as she was able for the first time to carry on a conversation with her and actually understand what she had to say. So she noticed a difference and didn't even know we did anything.
 
FroggyinArk said:
ok as an adult with lactosee/mmilk protien intolerance issues,, let me point out that in some cases,( mine included) the body reacts to milk as an intoxixcant, i can litterally get drunk on milk, then have mood swings, etc, as the milk wears off. its not as common as the tummy problems associated with lactose intolerance but it does and can happen.

I find this particularly interesting!

Can I ask if this is only when you drink milk or does it happen with other dairy products such as cheese and yogurt?

Also, has this been something you have had just as an adult or from the time you were young?
 
sorry, was b eing unemployed bum and slept in this morning and havent payed close attention :)

mainly just with regular milk, or "real" cheeses like mozzerella, pasturized process cheese not so bad, ice cream will get me if i eat a lot at once, so if i go out for soft serve i look for "frozen yogurts"

its been a problem since childhood, wasnt diagnosed till college years, but explained alot of things that went on during elementary school when we were "required" to drink milk with meals, then go out for recess and i woulddfeel sick so i wouldnt play or run much because i would vomit.


frozen yogurt, regular yoggurts, pasturized cheeses, ( yeah i eat the plastic american and like it) seem to be ok. i guess the yeast in yogurt breaks down the protiens i am alergic to or intolerant of. (best "buzz" is from whole milk)
 


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