Kids Kicked out of School for Wearing American Flag Tshirts

[hereyago]

Exactly!

Now the boys with American flag shirts perhaps had a alterior motive, but honestly, we are in the USA dang it. What if it was a shirt of Tommy Hilfiger who's clothes may have a US flag symbol on it? We will fly, wear-even though I don't personally wear the flag on my apparel, any dang time we want. If you don't like it get the heck out!!!!!!!!!

To put another country's flag over ours, why not just take our flag and put it upside down and show that our country is obviously in distress?

And when the illegals are holding their rallies, they have our flag with them, um get that flag out of your hand.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Yesterday, a sophomore in a local high school removed and tossed a Mexican flag that was placed above an American flag in his school. (Prior, he had told his mom, who called the school - no return call. So, the kid took down the flag.) He has been suspended for three days and will have to take his final exams.

It is a shame what is happening in this country. My grandparents were born Italian. Did they forget their heritage? Thankfully, no. Did they put loyalty to their native land above loyalty to their adopted land? NO! NEVER! (A land, by the way, which gave them the opportunity to achieve - yes, I am going to say it! - the AMERICAN DREAM.) My grandparents were born Italian and they died American - as proud as any I have known.

The new "salad bowl" immigration will be the ruin of this great nation. It is sad.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/micha...tudent-for-removing-mexican-flag/440902268367

While it was tacky and maybe even illegal (not up on my US Codes at the moment!) of the school to do that with the Mexican flag--it is unfortunate that the student took matters into his own hands with property that did not belong to him.

No way should the school have flown the flag in such a matter as a govt institution in the USA--but the kid trespassed the moment he opted to do what he did.

Anyway--the whole thing in general is going to be a huge travesty. I agree with some recent posters here in their commentary, but won't cite it lest it be miscontrued as intolerance.

It seems the definition of intolerance has greatly changed in this country that if you convey yourself as American--then you are intolerant of other people.

 

[pweyl36]

for me, it is about the fact that they all got together and planned it for this specific day. I may be wrong but I get an "in your face" or "we'll show them" kind of vibe from that. Also, I am thinking the principal knows them and knew what they were all about - in order for him to react that way first thing in the morning. Either that - or it is my original impression that he was way over reacting. Who knows really.

My point though really, again, was IF they intended to stir up trouble, or be in your face or denigrating....then that is hubris. I have nothing against positive pride...but that doesn't need to put others down or show one up above the other. THAT is hubris.

Thats what Iam saying.

 

[luvsJack]

While it was tacky and maybe even illegal (not up on my US Codes at the moment!) of the school to do that with the Mexican flag--it is unfortunate that the student took matters into his own hands with property that did not belong to him.

No way should the school have flown the flag in such a matter as a govt institution in the USA--but the kid trespassed the moment he opted to do what he did.

Anyway--the whole thing in general is going to be a huge travesty. I agree with some recent posters here in their commentary, but won't cite it lest it be miscontrued as intolerance.

It seems the definition of intolerance has greatly changed in this country that if you convey yourself as American--then you are intolerant of other people.

I cannot exactly quote the code but I do believe it states that NO flag should fly above the American flag.

If our little school so much as thought about flying any flag above the American flag, they would have had a certain National Guardsman coming to visit. My bil has already been at the school letting them know that they should not be flying a tattered flag and to get one ordered (it was ordered that day and flying the following week) and to the supervisors office letting him know that the flag outside his office should not be flying in the rain--it hasn't been since. Not his business? maybe not. But I think he has certainly earned the right to say what he said.


While I do agree with you that the kid may have trespassed and he may have touched property that was not his; I applaud him for it! It is time we all stopped sitting back saying "i don't like it" or "they shouldn't do that" and get off our duffs and DO something about it. What is it the song says? "You've got to stand for something"? Well, apparently this boy does and he did something about it.

Sometimes people are trying so hard to embrace another nationality and culture that they push aside America and her citizens in the process. Maybe some of these school officials just need someone to remind them that they are still in America and while there is nothing wrong with allowing all students to embrace their heritage, the are first and foremost in the USA and that should never be forgotten.

 

[luvsJack]

Thats what Iam saying.

So what if they all got together and decided to wear red, white and blue? They weren't jumping on the Mexican-American kids or starting riots or even saying anything were they? If they wore these flags as a kind of silent protest of something or as a silent show of agreement with the Arizona law; there really isn't anything wrong with that. They have the right to stand up for themselves and their country and their beliefs. When did we get to a place where is was all about "you might offend someone?" and not about being in a country where we could say what we believe? When did our rights become so lost?

If we cannot stand up for what we believe in then we don't believe in anything. Or like the song I mentioned before we will fall for anything.

We cannot spend our lives never being allowed to say what we are in support of because someone else may not like it. Guess what , someone else might not like anything and everything we stand for. Are we to just sit in silence while that someone treads all over our beliefs?

If one of the Mexican kids had a problem with seeing red, white and blue; then that is the issue of that kid and that is the one they need to be dealing with. Because as long as that kid is in America he/she will be seeing a LOT of red, white and blue.

 

[wdwfan16]

Okay, so I'm a stupid Canadian, but isn't Cinco de Mayo a day that celebrates Mexico's victory over FRANCE? So, wouldn't wearing a French flag be offensive, rather than an American flag?

You are correct.

Unless the boys were intentionally trying to cause trouble their wearing the tees should not be a problem.

The reason this is big news is the recent AZ law.

 

[wdwfan16]

I just looked that up and it happened at Klein Collins in Houston. Gee, not getting much coverage in the mainstream media. I swear, if I had driven DD to school and spotted a Mexican flag flying above the US and Texas flags, hell would have frozen over before she set foot on that campus for the day. Are those administrators on dope? They have taken leave of their senses. Forget whether the kid was right or wrong for removing the Mexican flag.....It should NEVER have been flying above a US school (and the American flag) in the first place. Lunacy!

Who was the idiot to fly another countries flag above the US flag?




When flown with flags of states, communities, or societies on separate flag poles which are of the same height and in a straight line, the flag of the United States is always placed in the position of honor - to its own right.
..The other flags may be smaller but none may be larger.
..No other flag ever should be placed above it.
..The flag of the United States is always the first flag raised and the last to be lowered.




source: http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html

 

[Toad_Passenger]

The flag...prints of the flag are fine. You can't go and take an American flag and make a dress out of it.

A shirt with a screen print picture of a flag is not a flag.

I actually wanted to clear this up. It really doesn't bother me if people don't follow the "Flag Code" but it does say that Screen printings are still flags. The following is taken from an FAQ about the Flag Code:

Are flags on T-shirts, ties, etc., really flags?

Yes. According to the Flag Code, a flag is anything "by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag."

The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

Source: Flag Code, Section 3

Therefore, a flag includes any representation of it of any substance, with stars and stripes of any number. This would include T-shirts and ties.

The Flag Code states that the flag should never be worn. (Section 8d): "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

So, technically, the bandannas and shirts are against the Flag Code, but, honestly, who even knows about it anymore?
Technically we shouldn't be slopping our ketchup all over Flag plates during 4th of July either.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

Thats what Iam saying.

So you are saying that it is perfectly ok for a group of students (any group) to intimidate the administration so much that they are concerned for the safety of the campus? The administration is so intimidated by this group of students and their fear of fights that they punish a group of boys for wearing the symbol of THIS country because they fear for the boys' safety?

The school is out of control if a group of kids (any group of kids) have that much power to create fear and intimidation in the administration. Political correctness has gone amok when the kids run the institution.

As shown by the march the next day, this was no "fun" celebration by the kids. THEY were the ones trying to make a statement and intimidated the administration so much that the administration cow towed to them and punished kids that should not have been punished, as the statement released by the district superintendent indicates.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

Could you imagine what would happen if a principal named Mike Smith did this to 4 Mexican-American students for wearing a Mexican Flag shirt on Memorial day or 4th of July.

Or can you imagine 200 USA students marching down the streets of Mexico City demanding that Mexicans not wear red, white and green on the 4th of July as it is the USA's independence day?

This is what the Mexican citizens would do: (and rightly so)

Mexico would laugh so hard and tell us to go celebrate our independence day in our country, not to mention the arrests that might happen if they had to involve 7 police officers, which cost taxpayers, to keep the peace.

 

[pweyl36]

So you are saying that it is perfectly ok for a group of students (any group) to intimidate the administration so much that they are concerned for the safety of the campus? The administration is so intimidated by this group of students and their fear of fights that they punish a group of boys for wearing the symbol of THIS country because they fear for the boys' safety?

The school is out of control if a group of kids (any group of kids) have that much power to create fear and intimidation in the administration. Political correctness has gone amok when the kids run the institution.

As shown by the march the next day, this was no "fun" celebration by the kids. THEY were the ones trying to make a statement and intimidated the administration so much that the administration cow towed to them and punished kids that should not have been punished, as the statement released by the district superintendent indicates.

Maybe the school didnt what to wait to see if a fight broke out. They just wanted to nip it in the bud. It doesnt it matter, in my opinion I know what those boys really were up to and they too.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

Maybe the school didnt what to wait to see if a fight broke out. They just wanted to nip it in the bud. It doesnt it matter, in my opinion I know what those boys really were up to and they too.

Don't you think it disturbing that the administration was so concerned about the students that they even had to consider a fight might break out?

Just the mere fact that the administration was so intimidated by the group of students that they considered the possibility of fights so real that they had to "nip it in the bud" is disturbing.

The administration should have been comfortable with everyone wearing their own symbols of their country, that having a cinco de mayo celebration would be a fun event, without fear of reprisal to any student. The inmates are running the asylum in that school.

And the boys were completely in their rights to wear their shirts, whether they were having a silent protest or not. Apparently the district agreed

It has become obvious now that it was actually the Mexican-American students who had an agenda when they wasted taxpayer money marching and demanding that people not wear Red, White and Blue on 5/5, demanding "respect" for that day.

 

[hentob]

Could you imagine what would happen if a principal named Mike Smith did this to 4 Mexican-American students for wearing a Mexican Flag shirt on Memorial day or 4th of July.

My husband and I were just discussing this. We decided a good analogy would be if we went to Canada on July 4th and said to a Canadian, "How dare you wear a maple leaf on your shirt today! It's an American holiday!" Kind of puts it into perspective.

I agree with both of you. This political correctness and bowing to only certain ethnic groups is quite frightening

 

[luvsJack]

Maybe the school didnt what to wait to see if a fight broke out. They just wanted to nip it in the bud. It doesnt it matter, in my opinion I know what those boys really were up to and they too.

But, again, as long as they were not saying anything only wearing the flags or colors then they were well within their rights.

Why should a person's rights be stepped on because someone else might have a problem with it?

No one in this country should have to be afraid to be proud to be an American or proud to show the American flag or colors. If it bothers someone else, then they are the one's with the issues.

 

[hentob]

Don't you think it disturbing that the administration was so concerned about the students that they even had to consider a fight might break out?

Just the mere fact that the administration was so intimidated by the group of students that they considered the possibility of fights so real that they had to "nip it in the bud" is disturbing.

The administration should have been comfortable with everyone wearing their own symbols of their country, that having a cinco de mayo celebration would be a fun event, without fear of re.prisal to any student. The inmates are running the asylum in that school.

 

[hentob]

No one in this country should have to be afraid to be proud to be an American or proud to show the American flag or colors.

Sad that it has come to this, no?

We are losing our country. It is heartbreaking.

 

[EMom]

Maybe the school didnt what to wait to see if a fight broke out. They just wanted to nip it in the bud. It doesnt it matter, in my opinion I know what those boys really were up to and they too.

Because God knows that anyone wearing a US flag shirt on Cinco de Mayo is a rabble rousing trouble maker, right? It's ALWAYS the AMERICANS at fault these days, isn't it?

Well.....Not so much. It seems to me that the pro-Mexican protest the next day, in which 200 students walked out of school (and faced NO disciplinary consequences, BTW) and pitched a fit about how Americans should defer to "their country" and culture (I guess they don't consider themselves Americans) on Cinco de Mayo clearly illustrates exactly which side was the one most likely to make trouble of the two. And that side was NOT the one wearing red, white and blue.

The school may say the boys wearing US flag shirts were not disciplined (suspended, etc.) but IMHO, being sent home for wearing the shirt WAS a form of discipline. You miss school, you have to make up work, it implies YOU did something wrong..... Let students start walking out of class to protest illegal immigration and see how fast the school puts a stop to that. Double standard at work, but what's new?

 

[hentob]

It doesnt it matter, in my opinion I know what those boys really were up to and they too.

Yes. How dare they do not respect a Mexican holiday

Let students start walking out of class to protest illegal immigration and see how fast the school puts a stop to that. Double standard at work, but what's new?

Silly you We must RESPECT the people that are here illegally. We must respect those criminals and not hurt their feelings. We must embrace THEIR culture and welcome their children into our public schools. We must hire people to speak their language so they can get the education that they "deserve". We must use OUR taxpayer monies to help these criminals give birth in our country.

That is what it has come to. Americans are WRONG for even daring to question illegal immigrants. We must welcome them.

 

[DawnCt1]

Maybe the school didnt what to wait to see if a fight broke out. They just wanted to nip it in the bud. It doesnt it matter, in my opinion I know what those boys really were up to and they too.

The school was wrong. One flag cannot be chosen over another flag. Wearing the flag or flag colors are an expression of first amendment rights. In school, students have limited rights but they still have first amendment rights to the point where a school can not chose one expression (the Mexican flag) over another expression, (the American flag).

 

[DawnCt1]

Because God knows that anyone wearing a US flag shirt on Cinco de Mayo is a rabble rousing trouble maker, right? It's ALWAYS the AMERICANS at fault these days, isn't it?

Well.....Not so much. It seems to me that the pro-Mexican protest the next day, in which 200 students walked out of school (and faced NO disciplinary consequences, BTW) and pitched a fit about how Americans should defer to "their country" and culture (I guess they don't consider themselves Americans) on Cinco de Mayo clearly illustrates exactly which side was the one most likely to make trouble of the two. And that side was NOT the one wearing red, white and blue.

The school may say the boys wearing US flag shirts were not disciplined (suspended, etc.) but IMHO, being sent home for wearing the shirt WAS a form of discipline. You miss school, you have to make up work, it implies YOU did something wrong..... Let students start walking out of class to protest illegal immigration and see how fast the school puts a stop to that. Double standard at work, but what's new?

ITA!