Kenneth Lay died of a heart attack

I wonder if there is any documentation (health related) of the poor souls that he stole from? I wonder how many of the victims had stress related illnesses/deaths (heart attacks, strokes, suicide, etc.) because of his thievery?

I couldn't imagine working my entire life and then finding out I have nothing. Nothing at all. Beyond depressing :sad2:

I wonder if Mr. Lay ever acknowledged to himself that what he did was horrible and evil? I hope so.
 
Geoff_M said:
I gotta think that judgements can still be attached to his estate.

Let's hope so..........
 
marybet said:
ITA And why wasn't he already in jail? Most people when they are convicted go right to jail. I live in Alabama and the former Gov. was just found guilty of a bunch of suff and he doesn't have to go to jail while he is appealing the conviction. I think he should be in jail, and he can do his appeals from there. Different rules for the rich and powerful.


Siegelman & Scrushy haven't even been sentenced yet.
 

hentob said:
I wonder if Mr. Lay ever acknowledged to himself that what he did was horrible and evil? I hope so.
I'd hope so as well but I'm guessing no.
 
I think that Nature was merciful to Mr. Lay. If I was in my 60s and had my choice between Massive Heart Attack While in Aspen and Many Many Years in Prison, I think I'd choose the heart attack.
 
Yes they can still get any money he had as restitution in the case. As a matter of fact the prosecutors had just filed a motion on Friday I think to ask for something like $163 million between Lay and Skilling as part of the sentencing. Maybe that is what lead to some of the stress that lead to the heart attack. Apparently Lay had terstified at trial that he had a net worth of $(400K) and that he was broke. Prosecutors had found an account with a braker that had $6.7 million in it and were asking for that as part of the sentencing as well. I think the whole situation just finally took its toll on him. We have had several conversations this morning at work and the consinsous is that most of us are glad he died at home and not in jail. The government won't have to spend any money on his incarceration.

I worked for Enron for seven years and lost a considerable amount of money when Enron went bankrupt. For me I am just glad its all over and that I have gone on with my life. It hurts to think of what I lost but then again you just have to go on because there is nothing I can do about it.
 
I wonder if he'd commit suicide if the family could persuade others to report that it was a heart attack? While I do think it's possible that he could have had a heart attack, it does seem like it's an awfully convenient time.

A boy that my brother and I grew up with died of an OD. This was my brother's best friend for many years. To this day, my brother was the only person outside the family that was told that this guy died of an OD. Of course my brother passed that bit of knowledge my way. Everyone else to this day thinks he committed suicide.

I'm not saying the Lays are lying, but if peons can pull it off, I bet the Lays could as well.
 
N.Bailey said:
I wonder if he'd commit suicide if the family could persuade others to report that it was a heart attack? While I do think it's possible that he could have had a heart attack, it does seem like it's an awfully convenient time.

I'm not saying the Lays are lying, but if peons can pull it off, I bet the Lays could as well.

Just think of the life insurance policy he probablly had. Seriously. You can't tell me he didn't have a multi-million dollar policy. I agree he got off easy.
 
Just make sure it really was a "heart attack" and not a "congenital heart defect", or some guy with a strange looking beard might start coming after you.
 
I am very sorry for his family, however he got off easy.
 
there are some who aren't so sure he actually died but is on some plane destination unknown...makes you wonder.
 
disneymouse said:
there are some who aren't so sure he actually died but is on some plane destination unknown...makes you wonder.


In that case, I guess the hospital and the sheriff's office are in on the conspiracy as well...

A spokeswoman for Aspen Valley Hospital confirmed that Lay arrived at the hospital at 1:41 a.m. MT and was pronounced dead at 3:11 a.m. MT.

In a statement, the Pitkin County Sheriff's office said a coroner's autopsy is pending and autopsy results will be available later this week.
 
Regardless of what the man did or didn't do, he is dead. That is sad. My condolences go to his family.
 
disneymouse said:
there are some who aren't so sure he actually died but is on some plane destination unknown...makes you wonder.
A talk jock on clear Channell was asking people if they thought that he was really dead.

Evidently, according to Tony Snow the official line is that Ken Lay was not a friend of Bush but merely someone Bush knew (and a number of people bush knows have died over the years).
 
I feel sorry for his family and friends and offer my condolences.

VampHeartless said:
Just make sure it really was a "heart attack" and not a "congenital heart defect", or some guy with a strange looking beard might start coming after you.
:rotfl:

TheDoctor said:
Evidently, according to Tony Snow the official line is that Ken Lay was not a friend of Bush but merely someone Bush knew (and a number of people bush knows have died over the years).
Really? I've never know anyone who has died. I've asked some friends and they haven't either. That's just too weird. Maybe Bush is secretly killing them? :rolleyes:
 
The whole thing with Enron and people like Lay, Skilling, and others I can't recall, is sad and disgusting on so many levels. When Enron started to implode and every little detail made the front page, you thought it can't get any worse but it did and on a daily basis. Does anyone remember the young Enron executive who commited suicide not too long after the story broke?

Does anyone recall the interviews that both Ken Lay and his wife made a few months after Enron went belly up? I can still see his wife on GMA and the Today show telling their sad story and how they were victims too and they were almost broke, etc,etc. It was unreal watching that series of interviews and I couldn't believe that someone was actually trying to sell that load of manure. IMO, the Lays and others like him are traitors to America and hurt just more than the former employees of Enron. The stockmarket and the American economy took a terrible hit and it just wasn't people from Enron who lost in that debacle. He got off lucky in my book. Better to die in a millionare home in Aspen with family around you, than to die in a nasty prison as one poster on this thread, had already stated.

Many pension plans are tied into the stockmarket to earn more proffit and maximise their gains. A lot of people, young and old saw their savings wash away down the toilet. Arther Anderson the former accounting firm in that scandal, lost all their clients and the headquarters in Chicago closed down and layed of countless number of workers. Some who made alot of money and were close to retirement. The Feds tore Arther Anderson apart in the investigation and while some at the top were guilty, the whole company didn't deserve to be punished.

The one thing that still puzzles me is, why Ken Lay proclaimed it wasn't him and blamed everyone else including the media for the downfall of Enron. There is mountains of evidence and it shows that Enron was filling false tax returns and cooking the books as far back as 1996! You can only hold off the truth for so long and there has to come a time when you throw in the towel. I just don't get that line of thinking and to the end he refused to take any personal responsibility of the fall of Enron. It confuses me, it really does. :confused3
 

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