Just returned: thoughts from a first-timer/WDW vet

It's definitely interesting to see a WDW vet's impression of DLR, as I consider DLR to be "my" park!

For crowds, at the beginning of the week you got the bad luck of the last few days of the 3-day SoCal ticket deal (3 days for $150 is a pretty good deal). That has been causing crowd issues all year so far. It expired on Thursday, and when I went on Friday (took the day off work), it was soooo empty! Very refreshing and I pretty much got everything done in a few hours. I would think the lower crowds will actually continue for some time, as locals tend to have an annual trip to DL, and they used that up with the 3-day pass. Now you get APs and visitors. And a bunch of APs are about to be blacked out for the summer!

Beignets-for anyone who loves those, skip the ones at Mint Julep-really hollow and just sort of meh. But the ones at Jazz Kitchen in DTD-OMG so good! Just pillows of heaven in your mouth! And they are available from the express counter, so very low waits. If you have kids, get the mini version so they are smaller!

Rides going down can really suck. Make sure to have the DL app, which updates regularly. I'd recommend always checking it before walking all the way to another ride.
 
Wow, what a great report! Glad my posts helped.

I think you got the full DLR experience here. Glad you liked WOC (so awesome) and I think your observations on just about everything were very fair and balanced and pretty much spot on. Except for the Indiana Jones ride. ;)

When you get back to WDW, you are going to love Flight of Passage. Wow! I have a new favorite ride at WDW. We rode it twice over this past opening weekend! :thumbsup2

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That's so great to hear! I cannot wait to experience Flight of Passage!! I'm so glad it lived up to your expectations!

And you know, as far as Indy goes, I wish I'd ridden it one more time so I could have absorbed all the details. For some reason, I had it in my head it was going to follow the Temple of Doom storyline to some degree. Probably my own fault for going in there with faulty expectations. :P

Thanks again for all your great tips and advice. It really did come through for our family.

Did you do any pre-plannign with Disneyland? Or just winged it? I do wonder how the paper fatpass will compare for me as I'm a planner as so liked having 3 fast passes booked even before you enter the park.

Thank you for sharing as it's great to hear what others think.

I did look over Hydroguy's posts to acquaint myself with some RD and FP strategies, and they were very helpful. I also read some trip reports. But I definitely was more casual about scheduling things than I am at WDW. I'm a planner, too (and enjoy it, as it builds my anticipation), but I didn't know quite what to expect here, and wanted to get my feel of the place before I really honed in on a plan. By the second day, I was able to build tentative plans for the remaining days we had left, depending on what we hadn't ridden and what we wanted to ride again (and again!).

It's good to check the DL app to see where fastpass windows are at for individual rides. I found it to be pretty accurate, overall. That way you don't have to be running all over the park quite as much.

Hope you have a fantastic time on your trip!! :mickeyjum

I know what you mean on this. I still haven't gotten used to it compared to WDW. It's bad enough working around normal ride closures. But then you get there and 2 or 3 rides will be down at one time. Talk about anger management. It drives me nuts and I wish Disney could get a better handle on this. Last time we were there, I started calling it Jurassic Park because everything was breaking down for 3 straight days.

Yeah, this really was the one sour note of our time there. It's hard keep your cool when it happens over and over again.

Loved reading your trip report!! Your reactions to the parks (as a WDW vet) matched mine almost exactly after our first trip out west in 2015, having been to WDW numerous times. I daresay that for me, CA slightly edged out DL because of the less crowded feel and the charm of Cars Land and Paradise Pier, plus our favorites of RSR, CS, Soarin, and TSMM were there. And yes, it is so very, very sad to be in Tomorrowland with no Peoplemover....and to have to see the old tracks still in place! :sad: Great to hear your recent experiences as we are headed back in 23 days, and I am especially psyched for that gorgeous SoCal weather!

It would be one thing if there had never been a Peoplemover there, but the fact that they took it out?? :headache:

I agree with you about CA. I almost feel like it's sacrilege to say I preferred it over DL (and I didn't--quite--because of Main Street), but nonetheless, I feel like our family enjoyed our time there the most.

Enjoy your upcoming vacation!! I'm already missing it. :earsboy:

And thanks to everyone who commented on this thread. I'm so gratified to know you all enjoyed my insights and comments! Happy to spread some pixie dust where I can!

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Thank you for your review. We have gone to WDW 12 times and are AP holders from PA. We were looking for something different and started our planning two years ago. We are staying to Grand California DVC and arrive Saturday for 6 nights! We have 4 park days planned and one beach day. I look forward to experiencing the uniqueness of DLR.
 

My family (DW-40, DS-10, DD-7) have also been to WDW 5 times in the last 7 years. We always stay on site (usually a moderate) for 5-6 nights. This year we decided to visit DL for the first time. We are also booked into the Park Vue (queen and bunk beds).

Thanks for posting your report / thoughts. I'm sure I will refer back to it several times in the next few days. As WDW veterans, it feels strange to travel to "Disney" without creating a spreadsheet (or a few) to keep everything planned out!

And although I'm not huge fans of fastpass+, right now I'm wishing that I could just book my times for the few rides that we know we will ride. And book them for mid-afternoon, to avoid the longest queue time.

From everything that I've read or heard (on the Dis unplugged), I'm looking forward to experiencing the "cultural" difference between the WDW and DL more than anything else.

I think it will be difficult to not be constantly comparing the two parks.
 
Thank goodness for the blacked out APs for the summer! Now, if only I would be blessed with the "gorgeous" weather a PP mentioned! I've experienced both wonderful and horrible weather at DL and
My family (DW-40, DS-10, DD-7) have also been to WDW 5 times in the last 7 years. We always stay on site (usually a moderate) for 5-6 nights. This year we decided to visit DL for the first time. We are also booked into the Park Vue (queen and bunk beds).

Thanks for posting your report / thoughts. I'm sure I will refer back to it several times in the next few days. As WDW veterans, it feels strange to travel to "Disney" without creating a spreadsheet (or a few) to keep everything planned out!

And although I'm not huge fans of fastpass+, right now I'm wishing that I could just book my times for the few rides that we know we will ride. And book them for mid-afternoon, to avoid the longest queue time.

From everything that I've read or heard (on the Dis unplugged), I'm looking forward to experiencing the "cultural" difference between the WDW and DL more than anything else.

I think it will be difficult to not be constantly comparing the two parks.
It IS difficult not to compare the two! And not a bad thing to do so...or not. I'm a WDW veteran, and the first time I went to DL several years ago, I found it very strange NOT to know my way around...to have to consult a park brochure/map or ask a CM where an attraction was, when I can walk MK in my sleep!! I've read online comparisons between the two and might not agree with all of them. The important thing is to go in knowing in advance that they are not the same and you will discover new stuff you like at DL! Unfortunately for you (and your budget), you will probably leave there asking "when can we go back"?? lol
 
Main Street, U.S.A. I could have lingered there for many more hours than I did.

This is so true for me. I love to Find a bench or somewhere to Sit and just look and Listen to the music. Mainstreet Offers some type of magic that hits me like no other place in DL or WDW.
 
Thank goodness for the blacked out APs for the summer! Now, if only I would be blessed with the "gorgeous" weather a PP mentioned! I've experienced both wonderful and horrible weather at DL and

It IS difficult not to compare the two! And not a bad thing to do so...or not. I'm a WDW veteran, and the first time I went to DL several years ago, I found it very strange NOT to know my way around...to have to consult a park brochure/map or ask a CM where an attraction was, when I can walk MK in my sleep!! I've read online comparisons between the two and might not agree with all of them. The important thing is to go in knowing in advance that they are not the same and you will discover new stuff you like at DL! Unfortunately for you (and your budget), you will probably leave there asking "when can we go back"?? lol
I call it the boomerang effect. It works in both directions for WDW vets going first time to DLR and vice versa.

Here is how it works. With trepidation you make the visit to DLR. If you take the right frame of mind and in your heart you love Disney, then DLR will feel odd and familiar all at once. You will try hard not to compare but will find that some of the things you love about WDW and can't do at DLR, you kind of miss.

You find some cool things to do at DLR you can't do at WDW (or maybe are just not as good at WDW). These are nice surprises. Eventually you get to go back to your comfort zone and make your first post-DLR trip back to WDW. And you of course love all the things at WDW you have always loved. But now you have a new feeling you never had before. You find yourself missing some things from DLR that you enjoyed and can't do at WDW.

There it is. The boomerang effect. You are on your way to being a bi-coastal Disney fan. :)

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Great review! We took the plunge to DL last year for the first time and really fell in love with Disney... very different from WDW but equally as wonderful. We had a fantastic meal @ Carnation Cafe too; besides the Jolly Holiday Bakery (which my girls loved!), it was our favorite.

Heading back in 3 1/2 weeks and my parents are joining us for a few days for their first DL trip. I can't wait to show them all of the things we fell in love with @ DL.
 
Great report!! We will be going in July for the second time. Last time was 40 years ago So alot has changed. What i am worried most about is the crowds. But being forewarned helps my expectations. Can't Wait!!
 
Also returned last week from my families first trip arriving Wednesday and leaving Monday morning (Memorial day). We stayed at the new Homewood Suites on Harbor and did 5 day hoppers. While you can't really "compare" I do think we enjoyed DLR more than WDW and will definitely going back. My review won't be as detailed, but I'll do some pro's vs WDW and cons.

Preferred DLR to WDW

- The ease of John Wayne airport, proximity to parks, 2 hour time change "pick up", and proximity of hotels actually makes going to the park on arrival day much easier. We had an 8:45 flight out of Chicago and where in the parks by about 12:45.

- The advantage of having both parks + downtown disney right there just can't be overstated. Park hopping is something we never do at WDW, but did every single day at DLR.

- It's just so easy to get walk or uber from local hotels and be at gates in minutes. I'm really going to dread the next time I'm at Magic Kingdom and have to take the monorail or ferryboat to get to the gate.

- Radiator Springs

- The characters interacting with guests was great. Peter Pan grabbed my sons and asked if they'd play with him one morning, Belle and Beast walking around, etc. Really enjoyed how informal that seemed.

- The extra number of attractions really does seem to keep more attractions at reasonable wait times to spend longer days.

- I love that DCA has essentially the best attractions of Epcot and DHS.

- Main street feels a lot more authentic

- Quick service food, in general, but especially at the Cozy Cone.

What I missed:

- Talking Mickey

- World Showcase

- 7DMT

- Ability to rent a house for longer stays
 
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I lived outside of DL for 4+ years. I have been there over 100 times. I *LOVE* this park. Yes, on crowded days you really do feel the crowd because the walkways are SO narrow. But when it's not crowded, the whole park is just so much more charming. I love that Fantasyland really feels like a small English Village. (Unlike WDW, with the awnings that just scream carnival rides here!) I love Alice In Wonderland, Mr. Toad, and the star field in Peter Pan.
The Storybookland Canal boats are kind of boring, but it is really a night time ride. The miniatures lit up at night are beautiful. Plus, for some odd reason, ducks flock to the London island scene to sleep. It looks like a bad sci fi movie - attack of the mutant ducks.

For future visits, across from the Indy ride is a food stand called Bengal BBQ. It's meat on a stick.. and.its.awesome. I think it's the best QS meal in the park. I also really enjoy New Orleans Cafe for lunch. Their Monte Cristo sandwhich is fantastic. If you have money to spend on a good table meal, The Blue Bayou is REALLY good. The food and service were 4 star.

One of the main things about DL is that it's a "local's park." DL is not really a tourist trap like WDW. DL relies on keeping it's local popularity high, so there are quite a few differences between the two parks. DL changes it's parades and fireworks about every 18 months. Whereas WDW didn't change the Wishes fireworks show in over 12 years. I've always found the cast members at DL to be a lot friendlier. Maybe it's because they know that their main guests, being locals, tend come back several times a year.

I think DL isn't afraid to try new guest experiences - parades, fireworks, shows, etc. Whereas WDW figures, it works, don't change it.

If you watch the night time fireworks from behind the castle, there's an accompanying light show on the Small World Facade... only do this if you've seen the fireworks from the front - you'll miss Tinkerbell's flight (which is cool because not only does she go right to left.. she also goes up and down). Depending on the fireworks show, they've also flown Dumbo as well.

DL's monorail was meant as a ride and not transportation, which is cool because of the path it takes over Autopia and around the Matterhorn.

I, too, wish the WEDWay People Mover was still in DL.

I look forward to going back to DL soon. I really like when I read that people have enjoyed DL and have gone to WDW. They're two totally different experiences and yet the same. Too many people try to hold DL up to the same vacatio as WDW and that's just not possible.
 
I enjoyed your report! As a DLR vet, I tried my luck at WDW about the same time frame as you were at DLR!

Pretty much everything you said I would have to agree with. Especially walking around tomorrowland at MK seemed less crowded than DL. But oh my, Space Mountain - yikes! It is by far my favorite ride at DL, and I had no interest on riding again at MK. Loved the new 7 Dwarfs Mine Train! Only 50 minutes wait as getting a FP was impossible!

SO enjoyed Splash Mountain at MK. Ironically I did enjoy Pirates at MK because our last visit to Pirates at DL in Nov. last year was during the" heavy fog" phase! Don't know what was going on then, but happy to see Pirates!

Enjoyed the HM at MK because we always were at DL during the Nightmare before Christmas overlay.

Carousel of Progress brought back fond memories of my many visits to DL in the early 70's as a little girl.

We enjoyed AK, HS, and Epcot as well. Just missed on the opening of Pandora.
What surprised my is that I really feel like I can get more in at DLR, even with the current fast pass system. I was simply able to get more FP at DLR. We booked out 3 FP+ early in hopes of getting an additional one at the various WDW parks, but didn't have much luck.

DL holds such a special place in my heart. I have to admit there were a few times during our trip just last week to WDW, I wish we had stuck to our tried and true. But, so many reasons the comparison isn't fair in that I am a wimp in the heat and humidity. This was the only week we could go as a family due to our now older kids schedule. This was our big LAST family vacation as the kids are getting older, and I chose WDW for the Wyndham Bonnet Creek Resort -which was as amazing as promised, and for the blow out vacation factor - this was our trip to go big. We got to throw in a day at Clearwater Beach, and a day at WWOHP - Universal which was great. We had a great time as a family - mission accomplished !

In the end, I think my heart belongs to DLR - especially the week after Thanksgiving we enjoyed just this last November, when the temps were great, the crowds were low, and the Christmas decorations were gorgeous.

So glad you have a great time, and thanks for your insightful trip report!
 
Thanks for your amazing comparison/review!!!

I am a WDW vet visiting DL for the 1st time for 3 nights on the way to Aulani in July.
I feel like a fish out of water! I planned our Hawaii trip like a good Disney travel planner does..... but I only have 1 ADR (carthay circle) planned and I am 60 days out! This is crazypants to me LOL!!!!

I so appreciated all the comparisons you have done and I have one question.....
You say Matterhorn was a letdown and maybe boring..... I am an absolute ride wuss....I can handle mine train , BMTRR and finally worked up to the drop on splash....
can I do Matterhorn?
Thanks
Jerri
 
You say Matterhorn was a letdown and maybe boring..... I am an absolute ride wuss....I can handle mine train , BMTRR and finally worked up to the drop on splash....
can I do Matterhorn?
Thanks
Jerri

Matterhorn rides very much like WDW's Space Mountain. There aren't any really big drops, and the top speed is something like 17 mph. That being said, you are seated single file and are fairly low to the track, so it feels like you are going much faster than you really are. Also, Big Thunder and SDMT are pretty smooth and there's nothing too jarring about them. Matterhorn, however, can be quite bumpy and rides in a way that feels...a bit unrefined by modern standards. Which makes sense, because Matterhorn was actually the first modern steel coaster in the world!

It's a lot of fun, but it definitely has a very different feel than BTMR or SDMT.
 
I so appreciated all the comparisons you have done and I have one question.....
You say Matterhorn was a letdown and maybe boring..... I am an absolute ride wuss....I can handle mine train , BMTRR and finally worked up to the drop on splash....
can I do Matterhorn?
Thanks
Jerri

The Matterhorn is more like WDW's Space Mountain only not in the dark. It seems pretty fast, but it's not.. it's kinda bumpy and there are a couple of small sharp drops that I like to call "spine crackers". It's like an wild go kart ride through a mountain. It's kinda cool when you hit spots where you actually race the other track.. this doesn't always happen but it's neat when it does. I think it's fun.. I haven't decided (even after 10 years) which track I like better, so I always ride both :)
 
Just a warning: if you have any kind of serious back trouble, be wary of riding the Matterhorn. The track is quite bumpy, and the seats have very little padding. It helps to bring a jacket or sweatshirt to use as a cushion.
 
My family (DH-41, DD-14, DS-12) and I have been to WDW 5 times within the last 9 years, but had always wanted to visit Walt's original park. This was the year we finally took the plunge! And I'm so, so happy we did. We just got back from a 5 day stay (5/22-5/26, with park hoppers) and had an amazing time. Because this board was so helpful to me in planning our trip (thanks especially to Hydroguy!), I thought I'd offer up my impressions of the park, especially in how it compares to WDW.

Lodging

Summary: I highly recommend Park Vue Inn

We stayed at the Park Vue Inn, in a room with a queen bed and two bunk beds. I cannot say enough about the benefits of being right across the street from the park entrance. At WDW, we generally stay offsite to save some money, and that means we all need to travel together to and from the parks, and agree on a general schedule. Here, when my daughter was feeling sick/tired, my husband was able to accompany her back to the hotel while my son and I stayed to enjoy the parks. This was huge for us. I went back a couple of times on my own just to enjoy Main Street and loved having that solo time to myself, without feeling like I was holding up the entire group.

Parking was free. WiFi was good. The mattresses were comfortable enough. The kids loved having their own bunk beds. The pool was small, but secluded, and the hot tub was relaxing. The free breakfast was excellent. I had scrambled eggs, home fries, fruit and yogurt every day. My daughter loved the waffle maker. They also had sausage, cold and hot cereals, bagels, etc. The coffee was decent as far as hotel coffees go.

Plus, Cold Stone Creamery was located near the lobby area, a benefit we took plenty advantage of! :-)


Food

Summary: Delicious! :D

We are pretty easygoing when it comes to meals. At WDW, we generally do a couple TS meals per trip but stick with CS for the most part. I had heard that DL was better for counter service and was eager to compare. I'll list the highlights below.

  • Plaza Inn (DL): yes, the fried chicken is that good. We ate here our first night and loved it. I did think the green beans were a little tired, though. The mashed potatoes were fantastic, however, and the atmosphere was great, being situated right on Main Street.
  • Carnation Cafe (DL): our best meal of the trip, all around. I loved the chicken fried chicken and the mashed potatoes. My husband thoroughly enjoyed the meat loaf. We all got a kick out of the fried pickles. Carnation Cafe edged out the Plaza, though, because of the grilled side veggies, which were delicious.
  • Boardwalk Pizza & Pasta (CA): my daughter really liked the pasta here. The pizza was pretty average, but it wasn't too busy when we went. It's tucked back in the corner near Goofy's Sky School and is a little overlooked, I think. There was a band playing while we ate, which was nice and added to our enjoyment of the meal.
  • Napolini (Downtown Disney): we were going to go to the TS restaurant, Naples, but were feeling tired and just wanted to grab something quick. This brick-oven pizza was pretty darn good. Not quite up to Via Napoli standards in WDW, but still--better than any other pizza we had on the trip. Relatively cheap, too. I wish it had been a little bit fresher, though.
  • French Market (DL) is very inviting, with an ingratiating New Orleans feel about it. My husband liked their unique take on meat loaf, while I enjoyed the beef stew bread bowl quite a bit.
  • Jolly Holiday Bakery (DL): wow, the eclairs here are so good!! This was my son's favorite thing to eat on the entire trip. I also loved the pineapple upside down cake. Mmm!!
  • DD loved her S'more from Pooh's Corner (DL) in Critter Country. DS really liked his Tigger tail, too.
  • We ordered the "secret menu" ice cream nachos in the Golden Horseshoe (DL), which our kids got a kick out of. The ice cream isn't all that exceptional, but it's a fun dish and I really liked sitting in the Golden Horseshoe, listening to the player piano in the background.

We didn't eat anything "bad," but I was a little underwhelmed by the one churro I tried. I guess my expectations were a little too high going in. :earboy2: The same for Mickey's beignets at the Mint Julep Bar. (The beignets at the patisserie in Epcot's France pavilion blow them away, imo) Also, the kids got sundaes at Ghirardelli in CA and didn't think they were anything extraordinary--not enough to justify the outrageous cost, though it was nice to be handed a free chocolate as we walked in. Our meals at Hungry Bear and Smokejumpers Grill were pretty standard faire, but fine and filling. (I think WDW's veggie burgers are superior to Smokejumpers.) Two of us liked Cocina Cucamonga in CA quite a bit (yay, tamales!), while the other two (the kids) would pass on eating there again.

Overall, I think we might give WDW a slight edge on dining, but it's a closer call than we'd have thought, and we certainly enjoyed our share of delicious meals and treats at DL.


Starting out in the Parks

Summary: Easier access than WDW, lower RD efficiency

We're the crazy people who go bagless at WDW, so I was a little disappointed that there was no bagless entry at DL. It wasn't a huge deal, though, as the lines for bag check weren't too bad. I wore a runner's waist pack tucked inside my shorts and didn't have to show it to security, though I did take it off for the metal detectors.

Loved the proximity of DL and CA to one another. That ease of going back and forth between parks (and to our hotel) cannot be overstated. I only wish they'd kept the two parks "disconnected" for fast passes, but oh well! Can't have it all, I guess.

They let us into the parks around 20 minutes before opening but held us at the rope drop points until the exact hour. WDW usually lets us in about 10-15 minutes early, so I missed that early jump on the day. Overall, though, I didn't think rope drop was too crazy at DL, except for Magic Morning, which we did last Tuesday. We went to Peter Pan first, and that was nuts. A toddler toppled out of her stroller when the wheel hit the train tracks, because her mother was pushing her too fast toward Fantasyland. The little girl started screaming--not a good start to your day at the Happiest Place on Earth! :worried:

One drawback was that we weren't able to get as much done for MM at DL as we do that first hour at WDW. We pretty much did Peter Pan and Matterhorn and that was it. Which leads me to...

Crowds

Summary: Felt more crowded than WDW, but the people were nicer

We got into DL around noon on Monday, which granted, is not the best time to show up at a theme park. Still, it was a shock to us how crowded it was. When we got into Tomorrowland, we could hardly move, people were so pressed up against one another. And this was a Monday! I think we only rode 4 rides that first day. (We were exhausted, though, and went back to our hotel around 5:30). It was not an auspicious start to our trip.

The rest of the week felt crowded to us as well--except for Friday! I guess AP holders were blocked out that day? It was so strange to me, having that WDW mindset, to experience a busier Tuesday than Friday, but there you go. Still, it made that last day extra special for us. DD and DS went on California Screamin' three times in a row that afternoon, with less than 10 minute waits in between.

The crowds bothered us more in DL than CA, which is more spread out, with fewer bottlenecked walkways to navigate. And, to be fair, we usually visit WDW at relatively low-crowd times and are RD people who maximize our use of FP plus. Once we adapted to the smallness of DL, and its more compact walkways, we just expected things to take longer and weren't too undone by the occasional snarl.

Grad night (Wednesday) did feel extra crowded. It's possible it wasn't, but just *felt* that way because teens tend to not pay attention to where they're going, and travel in packs, which makes walking around them more difficult. I didn't witness any overtly obnoxious incidents, though. In fact, I have to give the edge to DL guests for their behavior, in general. People seemed more easygoing and accommodating, as a rule. I think WDW requires so much planning that it makes (even good) people anxious and somewhat entitled in their behavior. I didn't see a single person freak out on a CM here, even with all of the ride closures. Which brings me to...

Rides Going Down

Summary: Not even close. WDW is the clear winner here.

I was surprised, if not shocked, by how often rides went down at DL. It was a constant issue throughout the week. I'm surprised anyone would set foot in the Matterhorn line when the wait time was more than an hour, as it seemed to shut down several times a day.

The worst experience we had was on Friday morning, right at RD. We headed straight for Indy, because it had just reopened after its refurbishment, but no, it was closed. No problem, we'll go to Pirates--but it was also closed (it had been closed Wednesday morning at RD, too, when we rode it the first time--that gobbled up a half hour of precious morning time). Okay...I guess we'll do Thunder Mountain, then. What?? Yep--you guessed it--closed. At this point, we were ready to pull our hair out. We didn't want to leave this section of the park because we wanted to be around when Indy finally reopened. So eventually, we decided to do Winnie the Pooh (after being escorted off that ride on Thursday due to a break down) and Splash again.

It was fine, in the end. Everything (except BTM) had reopened within 45 minutes, and we were able to ride all we wanted to. But just be aware: whatever plans you make need to remain flexible, because rides shut down all the time, and you'll need to weather those (small) storms with your humor still intact.

Weather

Summary: DL, DL, a thousand times DL!

We experienced a range of lovely temps, from low 60s to low 80s. Not a single drop of rain. There is no really no comparison to WDW's oppressive humidity and thunderstorms. California is far superior in this regard. I found I had more energy at the end of the day than I do at WDW as a result, which is a huge bonus. It's nice not totally sweating through your clothes, too.

Fastpass

Summary: I prefer Fastpass+ at WDW

I found the original Fastpass system to work fine at DL, but I think I slightly prefer the newer magic band/Fastpass+ system at WDW. Although I dislike the "tiers" at WDW, I do prefer being able to do everything through the MDE app, without having to run all over the place and cut through crowds (or go to another park before we're ready to) to secure my next Fastpass. I also like the greater freedom of being able to choose a wide availability of times for our party than whatever is available at the machines just then.

In this case, I think the greater planning required at WDW pays off for our family.


California Adventure

Summary: Beautiful park that surpassed my expectations

I cannot say enough good things about this park! I definitely liked it better than Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios at WDW. Each land is so unique, yet there's a lovely "flow" to the place. Weirdly enough, my favorite section might have been Grizzly Peak. I loved its "national park" feel and so did DS. We really enjoyed the Redwood Creek Challenge Trail! The rope bridges and climbing walls were so much fun and a nice break from waiting in lines. They even have a little zip cord area for smaller kids. Sometimes, the best experiences are the things you don't really plan for.

Of course, Cars Land and Paradise Pier were awesome, especially lit up at night. We didn't do as much in Bug's Land because our kids are a little old for it. Hollywood Land was also not a priority, as we left right before the opening of Guardians (much to my son's dismay).

Rides

Summary: Old favorites and New Experiences

Too many wonderful rides to list here, so I'll just go with our highlights:

  • Radiator Springs Racers at night: riding this after sundown boosted my enjoyment of the ride by at least 50%. The cliffs are just so beautiful lit up at night. Feels faster, too. Try to time your FP for the evening at least once to enjoy the extra atmosphere.
  • California Screamin': the best pure rollercoaster Disney's done, in my family's humble opinion. Just a lot of fun.
  • The original dark rides at DL: it was so wonderful being able to ride Mr. Toad and Snow White, etc. Though none of them individually blew us away, they all had that "classic" Disney feel and were lovely to get to experience, at least once. (Crazy that Mr. Toad gets sent to Hell at the end, though! :scared1:)
  • Hyperspace Mountain: so much fun with the SW overlay! And so much better (and less jerky) than WDW's SM.
  • BTM's final hill: enjoyed the addition of the dynamite and "sparks," though they are pretty loud for those sensitive to noise.
  • Grizzly River Run: not a phenomenally themed ride, but plenty fun. Be prepared to get wet. We rode this one late in the day so we weren't walking around with wet underwear. :laughing:
  • Soarin' Around the World: I was nervous about this ride, since I loved the original so much, but I thought it was beautifully done and a worthy successor to Soarin' Over California. The CGI didn't bother me at all. Maybe my favorite ride, because I love the wonder and uplift of it. If you can get a spot in the first row (without any dangling feet in your way), all the better.
  • Haunted Mansion: loved the addition of the Hatbox Ghost! I also like the exterior of the mansion here better than at WDW. It really adds to the beauty of New Orleans Square.
  • Pirates: wow, those early sections are amazing! I loved seeing the Blue Bayou tables lit up as well. Our kids really enjoyed the drops--they added a little adrenaline to the experience. A fantastic, immersive ride, all around. I'm so glad we got to do this one twice.
  • Buzz: we appreciated the greater control of our blasters compared to WDW's version
  • It's a Small World: gorgeous exterior, with interesting interior differences from the WDW version, including the inclusion of more Disney characters
  • Toon Town: okay, not a ride, but this is a land that DS and I really enjoyed. He's almost too old (12) for it now, but we really loved hunting for hidden Mickeys here and grabbing a bite to eat from Pluto's. Such a fun, whimsical place to hang out for awhile with little ones. Saw more smiles here than anywhere else, I think.
  • Tarzan's Treehouse: I had zero expectations for this, but enjoyed it, maybe even more than the Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse at WDW. Again, DS and I kept our eyes out for hidden Mickeys.

Small disappointments:


  • Splash Mountain was definitely better at WDW, but we knew that going on and adjusted our expectations accordingly.
  • I actually liked PP better at WDW. The large room in DL's version felt a little sparse to me, somehow.
  • DS was disappointed in the Storybook Land Canal boats. I think he got his hopes up seeing that big whale's mouth and thought it would be more exciting within. Still, a cute ride for little kids. Our CM was kind of phoning it in, though.
  • I really, really, really wish they had a People Mover here still in Tomorrowland still. Like, really.
  • Don't bother with Goofy's Sky School or Gadget's Go Coaster unless you have real little kids and there are short lines for these attractions. The zephyr ride was also pretty ho-hum (though the Symphony Swings were a lot of fun--if brief).
  • Mickey's Fun Wheel: luckily, there was no wait on Thursday morning for this. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother getting on this one again. You don't really get to go around very much (though the view is nice at the top). It's mostly start and stop, loading and unloading. We did get a swinging car, and it didn't really bother us. It's a little disconcerting that first time at the top, sliding across the bar, but otherwise, I was a little underwhelmed, given the many ominous reports of Mickey's "Death Wheel" I'd read on here. :confused3
  • Indy: I hesitate to include this, as it was a good ride (and amazing queue), but we purposely added a day to our Park Hopper tickets just to ride Indy after it reopened. I guess I expected the story to be stronger and more reflective of the films. It just didn't "wow" me like I was hoping for. My husband felt the same, but the kids (who only saw the first film) were perfectly happy with it (though not clamoring to ride again).
  • Probably our biggest disappointment was the Matterhorn, I'm sorry to say. It's just not a very interesting ride. I liked the Yeti quite a bit, but the parts in between were lackluster and dare I say--boring. It's also a slow-loading ride prone to closure, which makes it a gamble if your time's at a premium. Definitely Fastpass this one.

Characters

Summary: Spontaneous sightings, for the win!

Our kids have never been that into character meets (both a little shy), but we did really enjoy happening across so many characters in both DL and CA. I saw 4 or 5 princesses headed down Paradise Pier together, Belle and the Beast, along with Alice and the Mad Hatter and Captain Hook, cutting through Fantasyland, and all the classic "biggies" on Main Street or in Toon Town, at one time or another. We did see a couple Storm Troopers in Tomorrowland, too, and Woody in Frontierland, along with Captain Jack Sparrow in Adventureland. It was always a little thrill to see them come out of nowhere and interact with the people streaming by. Great to see kids' faces light up in wonder like that. I definitely appreciate the spontaneity of DL's character appearances more than WDW's more controlled interactions.

Entertainment

Summary: Big or small, DL has it all

I regret that we didn't see the MSEP. I tried to get my family to stay for it a couple of times, but we were still on Eastern Time for the most part, and the kids couldn't hack it.

That said, World of Color was everything I'd hoped it would be, and more. I went by myself on Thursday night, having secured a "Blue" section FP earlier in the morning. My position was good, but not ideal, as I had a somewhat obstructed view. It didn't matter once the show began. I loved everything about this show and the technological innovation that made it possible. Personally, I didn't feel like the Dessert Party would have been worth it, as I didn't mind standing for less than a half hour before the show started.

I enjoyed the "small" entertainments we witnessed throughout our stay at the parks as well. I loved the bands on Main Street and in New Orleans Square, the ragtime piano player at Refreshment Corner, and Five & Dime at CA. Again, that feeling of spontaneity and having a more intimate encounter is really a lovely thing to experience in so big a place. I think it forges a more personal connection to DL. We had two bands playing while we dined as well (at French Market and Boardwalk).


Main Street

Summary: The original can't be beat

Last but not least, I think making the extra trek to DL was worth it just to experience Walt's original vision of Main Street, U.S.A. I could have lingered there for many more hours than I did. There's just something about seeing Walt's lantern lit up in the Firehouse and walking through the magic shop and Penny Arcade there that makes you feel like you've stepped back in time. The shops are uniformly lovely and interesting (I especially loved the art/animation one on the right as you enter the park). I loved seeing the original park bench where Walt came up with the idea for DL, too. I also appreciated eating at both Carnation Cafe and the Plaza Inn for their locations on that iconic street.

Make sure you stop and watch the window displays at the Emporium. These classic Disney stories are so beautifully wrought and their attention to detail stunning.


Final thoughts

I honestly can't say whether I prefer WDW or DL, and I don't feel the need to rank them in that way. Both are unique, immersive experiences, and both are infinitely worth doing. We'll probably continue going to WDW in the near future, as the airfare (and flight time) make more sense for us, living in Ohio.

But when I originally envisioned going to DL, I really thought it was a one-time trip for us. I'm not so sure of that anymore. We had such a fun time at DL and CA and found the benefits to far outweigh any drawbacks. I thought 5 days might be too much, but it really wasn't. We rode a couple rides for the first time on our very last day, and were able to ride favorites like BTM, Star Tours, TSM and California Screamin' 4-5 times throughout our stay.

I think, most importantly, this trip really refreshed our love for all things Disney, as WDW was starting to become a little too familiar to us.

Final thought: If you're wavering on whether to give DL a chance, just go already!! :earboy2:

Okay, I went on longer than I thought I would, but I know I enjoyed reading people's thoughts/reactions upon their returns, and wanted to provide the same experience for others. Thanks for reading and for all the great information I gleaned from this board over the past few months!!

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You're review is great! I agree with much of it, we just visited DL for the first time last Fall..I didn't have specific expectations just wanted to check out Cars Land and check a Disneyland trip off our list. Well, let's just say 7 months later I have already booked my flights back this Fall! We fell in love with it! We were just at WDW in February, and while there is so much to do and many parks, we've never been park hoppers (which is so insanely easy to do at DLR) we loved the amount of rides in such decent walking distance. And of course the weather always helps the experience. Can't beat Cars Land, and we enjoyed Mickey's Halloween Party (I highly recommend going out for a party, the locals put it over the top with their elaborate costumes). Glad you had fun!!
 











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