Just back from AKL....my report....bring on the flames!!

My $.02:

I, too, just returned from AKL, and will also probably not go back. Ihave stayed at POFQ and CBR, and am just fine with them. I don't feel for the extra money that AKL was any different than a moderate. The rooms are only slightly bigger and I actually had a better standard view at the moderates than I did at AKL.

I do, however feel that the resort handled Jeanne perfectly. The foot court can only be accessed from the outdoors, so I fully expected it to be closed. The lobby atmosphere, while busy, was wonderful. There was live music, storytelling, crafts, and the fact that there were characters (Pooh,Pluto,etc.) was astonishing!! I was truly impressed!!
 
Quote - "Ihave stayed at POFQ and CBR, and am just fine with them. I don't feel for the extra money that AKL was any different than a moderate. The rooms are only slightly bigger and I actually had a better standard view at the moderates than I did at AKL. "


Sorry absolutely dont agree with that statement. I have stayed at those resorts also and think the AKL is well worth the extra costs (If you get the discount that is). There is a HUGE difference between those resorts in my humble view.
 
So sorry you had a bad experience at the AKL:hug: I hope your next on-site stay at wdw is much better!:sunny:
 
I enjoyed reading about your experiences, glad they were not mine! Sorry you had a less than stellar visit to AKL.
I think that one should be able to posts opinions here freely.

Glad you were safe during the storm.
 

Originally posted by totalia
Ok, I work in a hotel.

Second, it was the MIDDLE OF A HURRICANE. Did you expect the staff members to be cheerful and pleasant and quick? They have more important things to deal with than just you.

If you have a complaint, tell them but they likely won't be all Disney pleasant like you would like because its possible that a hurricane would wipe the hotel (and them and the guests) off the map for good.

I don't know about you, but thats alot of pressure and they are dealing with much more than just the guests (not to mention that likely EVERYONE was complaining. Perhaps its horrible but eventually as a hotel clerk, you just get sick to death of hearing it. There is nothing we can do about the weather or how it is handled. We just work there).

Put it this way, did you really expect the staff to be happy and pleasant? Their lives are in danger because they are in the direct path of a hurricane. They probably want to be with their families or long gone out of town no matter how good the pay is because frankly, their lives are more important than making other people happy. Some of them may have even had their jobs threatened if they left because likely they were shorthanded when other staff members just simply left not caring whether they lost their jobs or not (can you blame them?).

My fiance was in the path of Ivan. I told him I didnt care if he lost his job, he needed to get out of town. His life was more important than a job and jobs are a dime a dozen. The hurricane turned at the last minute and missed New Orleans though. But I will tell you that I am very glad he was in Houston at the time. I'd rather have a live fiance than a dead one.

I disagree--CMs are onstage--there could be bombs dropping outside--they have NO EXCUSE to be rude, aloof, or dumb. If they don't know an answer--they should find it. The disney property buildings are safer than most homes that CMs and their families would otherwise be occupying during the storm. When it was known that we were an evacuated family--I was assured that Disney was a safe place to be.

Second--They have a hurricane crew at all of the resorts--some have to work, some volunteer to work--they can bring their families--heck, they can bring their dog--so the argument that they are worried about loved ones--while true--they do have the choice to bring household members along for the ride.

Third--Guest/Passenger/Customer safety comes first at the expense of the employees. No matter how worried they are for their own safety--it should not be projected onto the guests and it is certainly not justification for a rude attitude. Like I said--they are on stage. Our island evacuated--the grocery stores closed early, Walmart closed early--but by golly up until closing time--they were cordial and telling everyone to be safe. Not once did any employee I encountered anywhere on my way out of town--project their worry in the form of ineptness to do their job.

In other words--a hurricane is...
1. no excuse to go into a guest room unannounced (i.e., no knocking first) just to deliver a flash light.

2. No excuse to have a guest wait up all night for something that will not be delivered (if you can't say that you can't send one up--give a more honest answer of we will try--but it may be sometime tomorrow..)

3. No excuse to not have a reserved item available (if you reserved a room and they cancelled your ressie and gave it away--you'd be peeved--fridge was reserved, either guest should have been notified before trip of a policy change--or his ressie should have been honored).

4. No excuse to not change an evidently soiled sheet when housekeeping resumed. No excuse to not have housekeeping for 4 days--if they were shortstaffed--the staffed stayed until their assignments were completed--at least that is how it worked when I worked housekeeping at Vero Beach. Granted they try to conserve energy and will not swap out except for every 3 days--but it is every 3 days of your stay--not every third housekeeping visit. Working as a housekeeper for Disney--I doubt it wasn't so much the low staffing/hurricane issue as the CMs taking advantage of relaxed cleaning requirements and doing as little as they had to do. They have housekeepers solely for the rooms and separate housekeepers for the public areas--so it isn't likely that the room CMs were off cleaning other areas of the resort.

OP--your complaints our valid--take it from someone whose home was in the threat zone TWICE and had to EVACUATE twice. Take it from someone who stayed at WL for an evacuation--who knows the difference between guests who understand a hurricane is there and those guests who are too silly to understand why the parks are closed or that it just isn't a good idea to swim when most doorways are locked and blocked and it is blustery. Hurricane or not--it sounded as though the AKL was inept---based on the varying observations of AKL during hurricane and non-hurricane resort stays...it sounds that they just do not have their act fully together. Sounds as though they need a better hurricane preparedness plan, better uniform treatment of guests by CMs during regular and not-so-regular times, better handling of housekeeping. Sounds like a management issue and not a hurricane issue (with the exception of those water buckets and having to block/close access to outside or food courts).
 
Originally posted by LindaR
I did complain to the executive offices and they made sure that our May 2004 trip was magical (we stayed at POFQ).

I'm curious!! Would you mind sharing what they did for you?? I have had a few bad experiences at WDW, but never thought it would do any good to complain..Actually, they weren't bad enough to be compensated much for, but would love to know what they did to make you happy on your next trip, just in case!!
 
I am still laughing at OP's post, 4 pages later!! OHMYGOSH - how awful!!

I've stayed at AKL and have been hesitant to return - although (and I hate to say it) we had a terrific CM at check-in and we got a comp upgrade from a standard to a Savannah view. She kept looking until she found us a great view. I would not pay for Savannah because there is a good chance of not getting a great view. All in all, it was not my favorite resort...but I found it dark and I prefer lighter decor.

Thing is, so much depends on who (whom?) you get at check-in at any Disney resort. Last week when we checked into the GF the CM seemed pretty out to lunch and the only thing he did for us was give us the one type of room I told him I really did not want. I called the front desk immediately and fortunately spoke with a wonderful (and informed) CM who could not have been more helpful. CM's have bad days like the rest of us and I hate to bash any of them...and who knows what the guest was like that just walked away. Still, as a former CM I always felt it was my responsiblity to try to smile and do my best for each guest...that was a long time ago and maybe things have changed.

So sorry about your AKL stay - at least you were able to have a sense of humor about it!

Think we're all stuck with the new WHOOSHing toilets...had them at the GF and POP..scared me half to death in the middle of the night!!!
 
Originally posted by currycook
Quote - "Ihave stayed at POFQ and CBR, and am just fine with them. I don't feel for the extra money that AKL was any different than a moderate. The rooms are only slightly bigger and I actually had a better standard view at the moderates than I did at AKL. "


Sorry absolutely dont agree with that statement. I have stayed at those resorts also and think the AKL is well worth the extra costs (If you get the discount that is). There is a HUGE difference between those resorts in my humble view.

I did get a discount, and still think the money would be better spent at a moderate. I do plan on trying other deluxe resorts,but AKL, to me, was a moderate with a couple of extra perks (sit-down restaurant and interior corridors).
There was no special transportation, just standard busses, and offered similar accomodations compared with the mods.
 
No Flames here. I have been a consultant in the hospitality industry for years. Did training and many re-organizations -- never pleasant.

Many of your complaints are legitimate. I would definitely write Disney and let them know. Be very specific about your complaints and deal with the facts. When I do this, and I have many times now, they are always gracious in handling it. In fact, I just finished writing a thank you letter to the person who finished resolving our issues from Nov 2003 trip. I wrote one to her and to her manager. Received a thank you call today from Disney.

Our experience at AKL has been very different but I'm not surprised by yours. Unfortunately the service industry is dependent on people and sometimes they fall short. But this sounds like management really needs to get a handle on what happened and your perspective could be valuable to them. If you have time I would definitely send a letter or email. They do respond.
 
WOW!! Sorry you had such a bad experiance. No flaming here just to state that we have stayed at the AKL for four trips since it opened in April of 2001 and every stay has been outstanding.

Other than not agreeing with your comment that the "lobby is small" your opinion is your opinion.

More room for the rest of us that love the AKL.:earsgirl: :earsboy:
 
The rooms are only slightly bigger

but the beds are much bigger and you actually have a balcony.

I knew the chances were pretty good that someone who paid for standard view had a better savannah view than I did

that would be me :D. Really you should have asked for a room change if you weren't happy with your room (or asked for a room away from the stairwell and a good view on check in)

The WOOOSH of the toilet
that's a complain that pops up at every resort, i sure didn't have that problem but i live in an apartment where you learn to tune out sounds like that.


She never changed the sheets. She just made the bed.

unless you ask Disney doesn't change the sheets everyday unless someone is checking out/checking in (actually more and more hotels are doing this). did you ask for them to change the sheets (or leave a note to remind them since they were pretty short staffed from the sounds of it?


ALso it seems like your expectations during some server weather conditions is pretty unreasonable, I'd imagine the same problems (or similar) were at every resort, not just the akl.

However i did see some of the problems you report, i asked for a fridge on check in but it wasn't delivered when we got back from ak 5 hours later so we did have to call and ask again (which we got in a few hours). and getting a bellhop when we arrived to help us cart out stuff to our room was impossible, made worse by the fact that Disney won't let you use one of their carts unless you wrangle a bellhop. Making 4 trips from the room to the car was not fun, esp with as far as the room was.
 
I really don't know what to think of this. I'm going next week and hoping not to have the same experience as you. But, it seems, this is a resort, as someone said, you either love or hate.

Here's my suggestion. Write Disney. Print out all the pages of this disboard post and send it in with the letter. See what they do then. Tell them you'll report back good things to us if they make you happy and continue to blast them even more if they don't.

I'd be really interested to hear their response!:rolleyes:
 
Sorry about your experiences. I have to believe it would have been different if you had not been there during the hurricane. Yes the CMs should be pleasant but its very hard to do when you are losing everything you own in yet another storm.

I do find your comment about your view interesting. You stated you would not have been as upset if you did not think someone that paid less got a better view. Is not that the way it is with everything though. You buy a car, only to learn someone else got a better price. You will never know if you could have gotten a better view as you did not ask for one. Had you asked and been told the resort is sold out, then they could not move you. If you had asked and rooms were available and they would not move you, then you have a complaint.

Toliets: we hear them at every resort we have ever stayed at and we have stayed at all of them. Stairs also. Another reason to ask to be moved.

Refrigerators: have to requested from housekeeping, not CRO.

But the comment I find most confusing and I have seen it in other posts is CMs walking in on guests. I totally agree they should knock, but how can anyone walk into a "locked" room?

I can agree with your opinion of AKL as to the rooms being small, dark etc. That is personal opinion and not everyone likes the same thing. AKL does not appeal to me in decor, room size, amenties etc.
 
harlock_jds

Thank you. Someone who understands.

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Btw, housekeeping has keys to enter all the rooms. They have to in order to do their jobs.

The doors in hotel rooms are always locked and they lock automatically. That means that in order for housekeeping to get into a room, they ALL have a master key or they can't get in to clean it.

Whoever walked into the room was just an idiot and was asking to get into trouble but its not the worst thing in the world.

The clerks in a hotel are human too. That means they act like everyone else does. Everyone has a bad day, everyone gets stressed. You can't tell me that you have never snapped at a customer because we all have at some point.

Sometimes guests are severely unreasonable and when you have already had a stressful day, eventually everyone can wear thin. It's also a matter of perception. When a guest is angry sometimes a clerk can be seen to be mean and condescending when they are being nothing of the sort.

Ex. For three years there has been severe droubt in my area. very severe. Last year alot of homes were lost in the mountains due to forest fires. These fires were causing alot of the animals (and yes many bugs too) to run away and often into the cities and towns.

We had a SWARM of these little black bugs. They were everywhere. All over everything. It was disgusting. And short of having a housekeeper run around with nothing but a dustbuster and not do anything else all night and all day, we couldn't get rid of them. The whole city had this problem (the convenience store across the street had a front door that I was scared to touch because it was litterally crawling with the little black critters).

A guest found 6 of them in her room and exploded. She was yelling at me so hard I was almost crying. I had sent housekeeping to take care of it and maintenance was making sure the rubber stops on the bottom of the doors were intact BUT they were so small they were getting through even the tinest crack. There was nothing anyone could do about it and we tried.

There were so many the city was even scared to spray because of the amount of bug killer it would have taken. It would have proven a health risk to the citizens when the bugs, while disgusting, were absolutely harmless.

The guest reaction was FAR beyond what it should have been. I DO NOT care if her car had broken down earlier that day and she had trouble getting through the border in the middle of the summer. She was simply cruel.

If I had had my way, she'd have been booted out of the hotel in two seconds flat for the words she was using towards me. But management ruled to give her a free room instead.

You see, it goes both ways. Just as you don't want to see an irate clerk, we don't want to see an irate guest.

No one is perfect, not even the Disney employees especially during circumstances that are very much out of their control.
 
The reason I didn't ask for another room was because the storm was coming and I realized they had bigger problems than my crappy view. They were trying to get things together for the storm and a lot of local people who were evacuated were checking in. I didn't want to make a big stink over something that, given the situation, was relatively minor.

As for the housekeeping issue: they were there. The day of the storm and the day after they said there would be limited housekeeping. Fine. So, why did it take two more days to get anyone in the room? They were there. We saw them. There were always about 3 carts on our floor at the opposite end of the hallway. They just never seemed to make it to my end. This is not a new complaint with AKL. There are many, many of the same complaints on Tour Guide Mike's website. I decided to give it a try anyway. I'm glad I did because I got to form my own opinion. Not changing the sheets from Saturday (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that the sheets were changed before I checked in) until Thursday, especially with a massive stain on the sheets, is unacceptable in ANY resort. I would have even preferred the option my friends got - at least housekeeping left her some clean sheets to make her own bed!

As for the valet issue: we visited many other resorts after the storm and none of them had any issues with valet. One night, we literally sat outside AKL for 10 minutes waiting for someone to take the car. The valet stand was open, the lights were on, nobody was there. We finally went to self park on the other side of the earth since it was after midnight. The Poly didn't have problems, the YC didn't have problems, CR didn't have problems. The only valet problems I encountered was at AKL. Maybe their staff was hit harder than at any other resort?

But, the point is not to complain, but to share MY experience. I read other reviews where people talked about these exact same issues, but chose to form my own opinion. If you want to stay at AKL, you should. Maybe you'll walk away like I did thinking that the other people were right. Maybe you'll have a fabulous experience and think those of us who don't like it are crazy. But, a review of a resort is just that - a review.

I don't want anything special from Disney. I already have my next trip booked, so they don't have to do anything to get me to come back. However, I think it's important for them to know about issues so they can work to fix them. My "complaints" are not new...the valet, the housekeeping....those are common complaints at AKL. It used to be chalked up to a new resort trying to figure things out. Maybe that's true. I'll still go back and eat at Boma though. We had a great CM there (her name is Brenda and I will definitely mention her) and the breakfast buffet is fantastic.

:D
 
AllyandJack,

Would you post Tour Guide Mike's website, please?

Thanks!

Like you, I know every vacation to Disney will not be perfect and will always go back...but gee, sometimes it's good to be able to vent a little!!
 
Venting is good and this should be a place where you can do that. While my experience was just the opposite at AKL ... I have had horrible experiences at other resorts at WDW that many also rave about.

People will be people. And, running a large "business" such as the AKL is not easy. But, this I know, sometimes you can try with all your might to change something, and unless "upper management" hears the issues directly from the guests ... they are not moved to do anything. For that reason, writing what you experienced is something that often managers welcome as it provides them with the "data" they need to get something changed ... perhaps hire more people, change schedules, change policies, etc. You seem reasonable, I'm sure they will welcome your observations and do something with the info you send to them -- even though you may not see anything happen directly -- trust me -- they do follow up on written guest comments with the staff and management.
 
Originally posted by buzzlightlily
I really don't know what to think of this. I'm going next week and hoping not to have the same experience as you. But, it seems, this is a resort, as someone said, you either love or hate.


Please don't worry! We've stayed at AKL twice in the last two years, and this year during Frances. The lobby is not "small," unless there are many entertainers, savannah guides, hotel guests, and children occupying its space. The lobby is absolutely breathtaking. I know Frances was early in the string of hurricanes that Fla. experienced recently, but we were overwhelmed by how gracious, cheerful, and accommodating every CM (with one exception) we encountered was. Service was outstanding on all levels before and a few days after the hurricane. During the hurricane, the resort did everything possible to make people comfortable, despite the fact that they were short-staffed. We were couped up with everyone for two days, so we had ample opportunity to speak with the hotel staff, and they were excellent. Before and after the hurricane, bell services, mousekeeping, and the front desk were so responsive to any requests we made that we were often caught unprepared! The restaurants are outstanding; the savannah guides are extremely informative, friendly, and educational; and the resort's ambience is very relaxing. I'm not flaming anyone, just trying to allay some fears of people who have reservations and are trying to look forward to their stays.
 
I like your post. Although you were describing all your problems, you seem to be a good sport about it. It didn't let you ruin any of your vacation. It's nice to see good and bad reviews. This way we know what could happen and what to watch out for.
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