Just a vent about people on the buses

[nicki.momof3]

I don’t expect men to give up their seats to women or children on the buses when they are full. And as we all know, most of them don’t. It’s really nice when they do, but we’re all tired together in my opinion and for the most part first come first serve.

WOW - that is the kind of selfish attitude I hope never to teach my sons. Last time we went to Disney my sons were 6 and 7. More than once they stood up just like their daddy (while I sat holding their little sister) so that a women with a young child or some one older could sit.

Call me old fashioned but this world really needs is "real men" like the ones that offer seats to women with children. I count my blessing everyday that my sons are being raised to respect women and have proper manners.

I don't agree with someone else getting involved in the OP business but shame on those that make a women and child or the elderly stand on a busy bus.

 

[Kay1]

No flames here. The busy body woman should have shut up. And the couple with the kids should have waited if they didn't want to hold the kids while standing. We did that once and actually the bus driver was really rude to us, because he was like well the trip isn't that long (and it was only 5-10 min) and he said we would be waiting longer than that for another bus. This was at closing of a park, so we knew another one would be along soon. But standing in line while your 18 month old is in the stroller as opposed to standing holding that 18 month old on a moving bus, is a no brainer to me. So of course we ignored the rude bus driver and stayed in line and waited.

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I'm afraid I've experienced the same. My teen has a handicap that prevents him from standing on a moving vehicle but I would die before I'd ask anyone to give him a seat, so we wait. The Disney people will discourage waiting especially after an event when they really want to load us on like cattle. We just stand our ground and let people walk around us.

 

[Anglefan]

I don't agree with someone else getting involved in the OP business but shame on those that make a women and child or the elderly stand on a busy bus.

The problem is, they got on a full bus knowing it was full. It would be different if everyone was waiting and they raced ahead to claim seats. It is RUDE to get on a full bus if you can't handle standing. There are no two ways about it.

 

[PrincessBetsy]

Wow, sometimes I just can't believe how rude people are. You should not feel bad at all for not giving up your seat. That woman and her husband had no right to tell you that you should give your seat up, especially when you had waited for so long. If the couple with children had wanted a seat, they could have waited for the next bus.

 

[mickeymousemom]

Haven't read but a few replies, so here's mine...you'll get no flaming from me even though I could side against you after dealing with total rudeness one day a few years ago. There were five of us getting on the bus one morning(also after a long wait, but I expect that with the POR buses) including my 3 daughters, DH and me. There are several styles of buses and we all know that they differ slightly on the inside as far as seating goes. We got in to a bus with no available seats...this was perfectly fine. I don't mind this and don't normally expect anyone to give up a seat for even my youngest child, though when she was an infant many nice people did give up seats for her and I. This time we get on and, of course, are told to go all the way to the back to make room for others boarding. The problem was that we all got stuck in the area by the back doors where even I could hold onto nothing but the bar that is by the steps that go to the back of the bus. My youngest was 3 at the time and of course she couldn't reach the straps/bar higher up. I realized there was an issue when those vertical bars attached to the panels by the steps and the back door were also too high for her to reach(by about a foot). We proceeded to leave with a packed full bus and a driver who went too fast and jerked us around at every turn(we've all had those). I got really ticked when several healthy people in seats could see that my daughter had nothing to hold onto and even I was having trouble standing up(as I was holding onto her with one hand and a vertical bar with another). I was in tears, my daughter was terrified, and people just sat and stared at us. I got mad enough that I started to mouth about it loudly and have never regretted it. To this day, I will only give up my seat in dire circumstances(including the elderly and one parent trying to handle a child or holding an infant or toddler). As a PP said, its none of anyone's business why I will or won't give up my seat. For my family the buses are a big part of the Disney experience and since POR is our resort of choice we willingly ride them. With that said I am done with the rudeness we encounter on almost every bus trip and now I get on, sit down and mind my business. If I SEE you struggle, you'll get my seat.



ETA: So, OP...While I understand that many people who LOOK healthy aren't, I have no doubt that there were plenty of healthy sitting people who saw my dilemma. I also have ridden with people as rude as the ones you describe. I've learned that WDW is not only a melting pot of races and cultures, but of personalities. I've also learned to ignore the rudeness around me and do my own best to spread "the magic". At any rate, after being burned by more rudeness than I can stand(mostly Americans, BTW) I've decided not to go out of my way at WDW for just anyone. I agree with your post totally.

 

[picktails]

Funny, my kids always WANTED to stand on the buses as soon as they could walk, and we'd have to force them to sit for safety. But since they were 6 or 7 and could balance (lower center of gravity) we let them give up their seats. Now DS16 & DS13 are always looking to give up their seats to anyone who needs them! Even if they're tired.

That said, I am very glad to be reminded that there are people with invisible disabilities. Our next trip is Nov. and we plan to spread as much magic as possible, since we are lucky to be healthy. My tiredness at the end of the day cannot compare to the parents of toddlers, even if I was first on line and waited 30 minutes. Good karma...

 

[nicki.momof3]

Funny, my kids always WANTED to stand on the buses as soon as they could walk, and we'd have to force them to sit for safety. But since they were 6 or 7 and could balance (lower center of gravity) we let them give up their seats. Now DS16 & DS13 are always looking to give up their seats to anyone who needs them! Even if they're tired.

That said, I am very glad to be reminded that there are people with invisible disabilities. Our next trip is Nov. and we plan to spread as much magic as possible, since we are lucky to be healthy. My tiredness at the end of the day cannot compare to the parents of toddlers, even if I was first on line and waited 30 minutes. Good karma...

Totally agree good karma goes a long way.

 

[marie1203]

Gah. "Well, then, the kids are more than welcome to sit on the curb, here, and you can stand just behind us so you can see them, between us. Me, I don't think it's a great idea to use Disney as an excuse to be rude."

We let kids in front of us when we were standing but sometimes we will be seating and the will stand right in front of us I couldn't believe it .

 

[mickeymousemom]

WOW - that is the kind of selfish attitude I hope never to teach my sons. Last time we went to Disney my sons were 6 and 7. More than once they stood up just like their daddy (while I sat holding their little sister) so that a women with a young child or some one older could sit.

Call me old fashioned but this world really needs is "real men" like the ones that offer seats to women with children. I count my blessing everyday that my sons are being raised to respect women and have proper manners.

I don't agree with someone else getting involved in the OP business but shame on those that make a women and child or the elderly stand on a busy bus.

Amen! And alot of the "sitters" on my own bus were men or sons. My husband gives up his seat all the time to others as have my two older daughters...without asking them.

 

[Pecobill]

WOW - that is the kind of selfish attitude I hope never to teach my sons. Last time we went to Disney my sons were 6 and 7. More than once they stood up just like their daddy (while I sat holding their little sister) so that a women with a young child or some one older could sit.

Call me old fashioned but this world really needs is "real men" like the ones that offer seats to women with children. I count my blessing everyday that my sons are being raised to respect women and have proper manners.

I don't agree with someone else getting involved in the OP business but shame on those that make a women and child or the elderly stand on a busy bus.

Oh boy here we go with that real men crap again.I'm getting really tired hearing about that.Women are no more special than men and men are no more special than women.We now have a thing called equal rights.Women asked for them so get used to them

 

[marielynn724]

And to think my husband had given up his seat to her earlier that week. I thought about reminding her of this, but decided to bite my tongue and try to ignore her and her nosy husband.

maybe you should have? it's funny how some people who persist so much in their politeness become rude in doing so. i don't blame you at all for feeling the way you did or reacting the way you did. either a. wait for the bus and sit comfortably or b. don't wait, but don't expect the best seat. people can't expect both, that's just the way it is when it comes to accomodating huge crowds. i just hope this didn't spoil your disney experience!

 

[mousefan215]

Oh boy here we go with that real men crap again.I'm getting really tired hearing about that.Women are no more special than men and men are no more special than women.We now have a thing called equal rights.Women asked for them so get used to them

I think instead of "real men" I would say "men with manners". I agree with you that men and women are equal when it comes to jobs and such...but what ever happened to good manners? If an elderly woman/man or a woman with a child is standing on the bus swaying back and forth and struggling to stand, I can't just sit there and watch them!! Regardless of the fact that it would have been a good idea for them to wait for another bus I still think it is the right thing to do to give your seat to them. And I'm not just saying men...I've given up my seat to people before...it all boils down to this....treat others as you would want to be treated.

 

[Iwant2BAprincess]

we ourselves have 2 kids 5 &7-our first trip they were 2 and 4-like the OP we had waited a long time at Epcot for the buswe were the first or second in line when up come 4 different groups of families with scooters-there went all the seats (side note-since so much preference is given to scooters they shoud only be allowed 1 guest with them, not the whole tribe) I was LIVID. These people had not been waiting while we were and left no seats (was one of those buses that all face each other) To make it worse my 2 yo was dead asleap on my shoulder. I had every intention of sitting down in the floor when someone finally gave up a seat.

OK that really sounds like I don't support the OP but my point is first come first serve

 

[TLinden16]

Since this is dealing with the buses, I'm going to move it over to the transportation board.

But before I do, I just want to post a friendly reminder to be respectful with your responses.

 

[Pecobill]

I think instead of "real men" I would say "men with manners". I agree with you that men and women are equal when it comes to jobs and such...but what ever happened to good manners? If an elderly woman/man or a woman with a child is standing on the bus swaying back and forth and struggling to stand, I can't just sit there and watch them!! Regardless of the fact that it would have been a good idea for them to wait for another bus I still think it is the right thing to do to give your seat to them. And I'm not just saying men...I've given up my seat to people before...it all boils down to this....treat others as you would want to be treated.

I have good manners myself but I get really ticked off when people think they deserve to be treated a certain way because they are a woman.No one is any more important than someone else.

 

[mefordis]

I don't think it's about being a woman. I think it's about having a small child with them when they are standing. I've given up my seat for a man with a baby/small child before.

I have good manners myself but I get really ticked off when people think they deserve to be treated a certain way because they are a woman.No one is any more important than someone else.

 

[TGaines107]

I certainly sympathize with the original poster but hey, takes all types to add flavor to life!

 

[topmonkeygirl]

I hope you never get pregnant by accident. I think you are quite prejudiced against kids, from the way you sound.

Trust me I won't, I take those little pills daily. Like I said in my post I have nothing against kids, it's with the adults who play the kid card that I have a problem with.

 

[eliza61]

I don't think it's about being a woman. I think it's about having a small child with them when they are standing. I've given up my seat for a man with a baby/small child before.

Nope, not buying it. They had that small child when they made the decision to get on a crowded bus didn't they?

Yes I'm a parent.

I just think the parent and the parent alone is responsible for their own comfort and safety. You have a baby and think it's important to sit, then you make provisions to ensure that. Whether that means you leave early enough to avoid the crowds or you wait longer for a another bus. I hate my morale/politeness compass is called into question because i don't give up my seat.

I'm with topmonkeygirl, I'm amazed at how many parents will spew the "personal responsibility" song and dance but will throw the kid out there to get special treatment.

 

[Suellen]

We didn't bus much last trip ~ but when we did ~ we waited in line and then scooted off to the side when we were first in line to wait for the next bus.

I myself have been at Disney, 7 mos pregnant, holding a toddler asleep on my shoulder and stood on a bus. I decided to get on even though I would have to stand because I figured I would be standing at the bus stop just as long waiting for the next bus. I never ONCE expected someone to give a seat up. LOTS did... but I never expect it. Never. Still don't.

I too appear to be a healthy "mid thirtyish" ~ but suffer from an autoimmune disease that is freezing my spine in to one bone... I exhaust easy while at Disney and from time to time CAN NOT stand for another second... especially after I have sat. Getting up to get off the bus is hard enough for me.

Since I have a hidden disability I know better than to judge ANYONE who does not give up their seat.