Just a thought

I'm 29 yrs old, no kids, and go as often as I can drag my husband or parents! I think this person enjoys getting a rise out of everyone, but WHATEVER!! I love every trip, and will continue to go. When I have kids, I'll take them and enjoy it in a whole new way. Thee are bigger things to worry about in life, and we all have to keep reminding ourselves of that.

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Wow! Even if this argument made sense, how are Disney patrons supposed to know which kids might be there for their "first and only trip?" How should Disney "give preference" to the families with three kids who aren't able to afford frequent trips? How are they supposed to know which families can't afford frequent trips? I'd venture the assumption that Disney was awfully glad to have those frequent visitors returning during the lean times they've experienced over the last couple of years. We aren't able to visit multiple times per year, but I for one am grateful to all those who continued to visit Disney during these times.

And for the record, I happen to disagree with the opinion that it's "ridiculous" to relive your childhood. I have never been obnoxious in order to have my picture taken with a character, but often our best, most colorful, magical pictures include the characters. My children are older (12 and 13), but I hope they never lose the excitement they feel when they discover a character in their midst! For people who love Disney, it's like spotting a celebrity!
 
I was thinking about saying something about how the OP's vision sounds like Communist Disney World, but then I just got peeved.

I know this is strictly anecdotal (as are the observations of the OP), but I have rarely seen adults thrusting themselves in lines in front of children at WDW. What I have seen for the most part is courtesy and consideration. I am so thankful that there are still adults in the world who have imagination, playfulness, and hope -and choose to channel that through the mythology and magic of Disney. Maybe the OP would be happier if all of us grownups head to Vegas where we may be enchanted by watered down booze and slot machines.

This reminds me of some other issues that have come up lately. I think it all comes down the same basic two-sided attitude: Live as though TODAY matters; do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
 
with the OP. IN the last post it was stated that you havet o be retired with no kids to afford to go to Disney World more than once a year. I am a wife and mother of 2. We have lived in Germany for the last two and a half years, and in that time, have flown to Disney World 4 or 5 times. We are Americans, so it's not like we are getting a good exchange rate or anything! And the price of airline tickets for 4 are not cheap!
For us, vacations to Disney World, (or wherever, but mostly Disney) are a priority for us, so that is what we save for and spend our money on. And believe me, we are FAR from rich! We cherish those family times at Disney, and as often as my kids go, they are 6 and 8, there is always something new for them, and at different ages they take pleasure in different things there so that each trip is a surprise. I would not trade that for anything.
Just wanted to put my thoughts out theree for this OP so that they are aware that everyone who goes multiple times is not childless or retired! MB
 

I don't think you have to be a certain age to go to WDW (even if you have children or not.) Just because you're contributing to the crowd?! That's like me saying because you go to WDW once a year you're contributing to the crowd. If you can afford to go to WDW more then once a year, than more power to you. I don't do the character signing, but I will take a picture with a character if the line is short. Part of going to WDW is seeing the characters.
 
I think I am interested as to why jiminycrick35 joined this forum and wrote this post. Did you spend time lurking to get a feel of the DIS first or did you jump in straight away and post this?
What is it you love about Disney? Maybe you should focus on that for a while...
(not that some of your points aren't valid, I just wonder if you have had one bad trip experience to make you write them in this manner. You clearly knew you were going to get flamed when you wrote them, otherewise you wouldn't have said so in your first para.)
Much pixie dust,
Claire

Here's hoping we can spread some good DIS pixie dust your way instead of negative to help you come around!
 
my only thoughts on this are that WDW is a big place, the few of us that are fortunate enough to go several times a year, do not tour like regular tourists, we do not tipically go to a park and spend all day in that specific park, we may not visit every park during each visit, we do other special events and other things that make us feel that WDW is special. We explore the resorts, the water parks, Downtown Disney and gasp....even visit attractions and people outside of WDW. We go to see and meet people we know or want to know.
Honestly, you couldn't possibly point finger re: the crowds on a small group that you call obsessed.
Also, I know that there is a great big world out there to see, but safety comes first and foremost when you have a child...I would love to see the world, but am not risking the life and limb of my 2 year old to do so. We as a family work very hard and earn every cent we spend on our Disney vacations so we get to spend some fun, no worry time together.
Thanks for the theory though...personally I would much rather blame the busy hurricane season this year and not point fingers at specific people.
 
jiminycrick35,
Welcome to the DIS!
I enjoyed your posts. Keep them coming!
 
Parents who are responsible ,line up at parades in time to get there little children front row seats. I know we did when my kids were small. Disney is a tradition in our family and it is more important to spend the time together now that my kids are in their 20's. It keeps us close. If us return visitors didn't keep coming then the poorer folks would find the prices so high to compensate, that it would be out of reach. Just don't expect anything in life to be given as an entitlement and plan ahead and it won't be so annoying. There are always rude folks everywhere but the biggest offender to me is the stroller maniacs. An elderly gentleman with a cane (and a grandkid!) stopped abruptly in front of me at mk. I stopped politely and a "lady" rammed the blood out of the back of my ankle with her stroller and said "that's what you get for stopping." Like I should have shoved the elderly gentleman aside!!?? She is a minority though.Disney is magic that you will want to return to if you "get it" even when your kids are grown.
 
Originally posted by jiminycrick35
First of all, contrary to alot of opinions, I did not post this message just to get a rise out of everyone, and I'm schocked by the amount of name calling and insults that were posted in reply by people who claimed to be filled with so much magic.

"A troll" isn't technically name-calling. It's a term that's used internet-wide to refer to somebody whose sole purpose is to incite the masses. There are patterns of behavior these folks exhibit, and one of them is a small number of posts. Another is when those few posts cause, as you called it, a stir. Your post count is at 2, and both of those posts have left people in quite an uproar. Hence, the labeling of a troll.

Originally posted by jiminycrick35
First of all, at no time did I say that Disneyworld should be just for people with kids, and I do apologize if thats the impression I gave, but I just think that children should come first, especially ones that might be there for their first and only trip.

]The beauty of a capitalist society is that there is no restriction. If you want your child to come first, then you try your best to make that happen. Did you want that spot on the curb to watch a parade? That's fine. Then you need to stop what YOU'RE doing 2 hours in advance of the parade time, and sit there, and hold that spot for your kids. And THAT'S why those people get so peeved. With kids or without, chances are those folks have been on the curb for a LONG time - and have given up some rides for that vantage point. Had you done that, and then somebody pushed their way forward, you'd be upset too.

Anyone who shoves a kid in a character line is, in fact, a disgrace. However, there is NOTHING shameful with waiting your turn, in line, to get a character's autograph. That's as simple as a line. And quite frankly - it's quite rude that you think anybody should give that up, simply because they don't have kids. If they let all of the kids get in front of them, the adults would never get an autograph.

Originally posted by jiminycrick35
You know, I read in just about every reply about Disney being for everyone, but thats be real here. 1 week at a deluxe resort costs half as much as most people in this country make in a year, so in my opinion, a family with 3 kids that does not have the funds to go numerous times, (you know, one of the "poor unfortunate souls"),to avoid "going commando" should get some preferance over people who are there once a month. Let's face it, the average person has to be retired with no kids to afford to go multiple times a year.

Once again - you're talking about a capitalist society, and that's just NOT the way it works.

First of all, there are PLENTY of lodging options that do not include a stay at a pricey Disney resort. And if you DO want to stay at a Disney resort, there are PLENTY of options for you outside of a deluxe. There are moderate resorts, and value resorts.

And if the size of those rooms don't suit you, there's lots of nice rooms off-property that will cost you a fraction of the Disney rooms.

And furthermore, what happens in a park has NOTHING to do with hotel guests. Outside of the Extra Magic Hour - it's a level playing field at the parks. Everybody has the same chance to hold a spot for a parade, to wait in line, to get a fastpass, to see characters - the ONLY thing those experiences are dependant on are whether or not you paid your admission.

Originally posted by jiminycrick35
Secondly, for all the people who posted how polite they are and let children ahead of them, that sounds very nice but I was just there and you are in a non-existent minority. Honestly, the only people who showed us that type of courteousy, had children of their own and could relate. To be middle aged and put yourself before a 6 year old to meet a person dressed up as Goofy, so you can try and relive your childhood, is ridiculous. Think about it.

I did think about it. And I still come up with the fact that if somebody waits in line, they have every right to meet that Goofy character. And once again, if they let every 6 year old in fron tof them, they would never get to see Goofy themselves.

Not everybody sees things your way, and you need to acknowledge that. If it causes a problem for you, then maybe you'd be best to not go to Disney World.

Originally posted by jiminycrick35
And lastly, my main complaint was not a reference to people without kids not going to Disney, it was a response to all the complaints about the crowds. I'm kind of disturbed by the fact that someone with an opinion that is perceived as even remotely un-disney,[

It's not that you have an opinion - it's the way you express your opinion that's being called un-Disney.

Originally posted by jiminycrick35
(I love the comments about Disney not being for profit, and my need for a lecture from Walt himself), is attacked as almost un-American. It was a simple, logical statement.........if the same people weren't always there, there would be more room for other people. Thats all.

And I think you need to sit back and think about that.

Let's apply that logic to something else.

I like the mall. But at Christmas time, there would be SO fewer people if I would just stop going, cause I've already seen it and done it.

There's a Six Flags around here. And my god the crowds would be less and less if I'd stop going every year, cause I've been there and seen it!

That logic just doesn't make any sense. It's the way people choose to spend their money. If it really bothers you that much, then you simply have the option of not going.

And that's MY opinion, and I did my best to express it in a non-threatening, un-offensive manner.
 
Originally posted by jiminycrick35

Secondly, for all the people who posted how polite they are and let children ahead of them, that sounds very nice but I was just there and you are in a non-existent minority. Honestly, the only people who showed us that type of courteousy, had children of their own and could relate. To be middle aged and put yourself before a 6 year old to meet a person dressed up as Goofy, so you can try and relive your childhood, is ridiculous. Think about it.


I know there are adults who will elbow kids out of the way to get in line for a ride but let me tell you there are plenty of kids, I'm thinking 9-12 year olds, who will wait until they are about to board a ride and try to get in front of us slower moving adults. I am thinking specifically about a 6 Flags ride but it happens other places. I didn't draw any blood but I did let those kids know they had to wait in line just like I had.
 
Originally posted by jiminycrick35
there are other places in the world to see besides Disney. You make it harder for the rest of us who go every couple of years. I don't want this to come out the wrong way, but I feel some of you are a little obssessed. I was just there and I couldn't believe the number of middle aged people standing in lines for character autographs with no children of their own.

:rolleyes:
-anyone any age has the right to enjoy disney
-so because we love disney and want to go and pay the money..we shouldn't so you can?
-yyou're right, since there are other places in the world, how about you go there and we'll go to disne.
 
I haven't read the replies, but I did have two thoughts...

1.) hahaha

2.) seems like maybe someone wants to cause a stir

T&B
 
First, calling Goofy, someone dressed in a Goofy costume is about as unDisney as it gets. When you are at Disney World and see a character, it really is like meeting that person. If you think all that signifies is someone dressed up, I don't think you belong at any Disney park. Also, it's not like the characters are only out for 10 minutes once a day. Characters come out for a while, go inside, then come back out a half hour later. There are tons of opportunities to meet characters, so if I want to get my picture taken with them, I will. I have been to many lines that had just been cut off as I got there, but I came back when I knew they would be there again. It's not evil to get your pic with a character knowing some kids are not. The characters always come back!! To all those having to read these posts, Have a Magical Day!
 
I know this person is a troll and we should all just ignore him, but does anyone else feel like someone punched them in the stomach after both his posts? So now, not only is Disney only for children, but folks who are there for the first time should get preference over those of us who go multiple times?

Isn't it interesting to think how Disney might keep track of that. Hmm... can you imagine making reservations and hearing, "I'm sorry, you've already used your allotment of Disney trips!" Or, once in the park hearing, "I'm sorry our records show you're over the limit on rides on Space Mountain." Boggles the mind doesn't it?

Cheers Everyone! We leave for our 7th trip on Saturday. I plan to enjoy it to the fullest!::yes::
 
The rude people on scooters are not confined to WDW. Just this past Friday I was at the Deli counter of our local grocery store when a woman on a scooter comes speeding around the corner and starts yelling at everyone "Coming thru, move out of the way, coming thru, move it, move it, move it." Everyone standing there waiting for their number to be called just looked at each other and shock their heads and had very confused looks on their faces.

P.S. For a second I thought I had stumbled into a filming of the latest addition to the Police Academy movies. LOL
 
I mentioned on another board that several of us were knocked out of the way by an ECV at our local polling place on Election Day. I'm sure all of us would have allowed him to go first in line had he asked politely, but none of us appreciated being mowed down in his quest to be next to cast his ballot. So, people on ECV's at Disney haven't cornered the market on rudeness.

In response to the OP, all I have to say is that when you register for an online community of this size hosted by Disney fans for Disney fans, isn't it a little redundant to call us "obsessed"? I thought being Disney-obsessed was a pre-requisite here. :p

By the way, my first Disney experience wasn't until the age of 27, though I wanted to go for many years prior to it. I have four children and my DH and I live on a single income. I guess you could call us part of the "poor unfortunate." Given our circumstances, we get a rather large tax return. Between that, our qualification to stay at SOG, purchase park tickets with a military discount, stay from time to time at my parent's timeshare, and my secondary earnings as a Tupperware consultant; we go every two years or so.
Each year is magical for us, and for whoever of our kids was too young to remember the last trip very well, as well as the older kids who have now grown enough to experience a new ride or try out something like autograph collecting or pin trading. We aren't big pushers and shovers (though I admit getting on rides like Haunted Manision always leaev me to worry I'm inadvertantly cutting someone off in my attempt to keep my family together-which is why I take similar actions by other families with a grain of salt) and with six of us in ranging ages we don't do a lot of running, but exercising a little tolerance towards people rediscovering their inner-child might go a long way in increasing your park enjoyment. As I tell my children, no one has the power to make you mad but you.
I'm sorry your DIS experience hasn't been magical thus far, but you can't introduce yourself in a place like this with a post like that and expect people to come running with open arms.
 














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