June 2025 Direct Sales Numbers In

It is possible. I don't think it is likely.

However, I sometimes ask my students whether or not the sun has gone supernova. The correct answer is always "I don't know," so I get it.
I'd be the smart butt and say ask me again in about 8 mins.
 
It is possible. I don't think it is likely.

However, I sometimes ask my students whether or not the sun has gone supernova. The correct answer is always "I don't know," so I get it.
I'm in the camp that agrees with you it's a guide stretching the truth.

I showed the points sold at various points to try to show it's unlikely. Obviously, I did a poor job.
Easier explanation...
Declared 535k mid May.
Sell maybe 120k in the 3 months since then.
Declare another ~400K? Possible, but unlikely.

IF final declaration comment is legitimate...
If you can't fill the parks and go after locals via the AP offer, isn't it likely hotel bookings are down? Make the final declaration and start telling people it's about to be sold out. FOMO is a sales tactic.
 
Edit: Disney can declare points at any time. They could even say a resort is sold out at any time. That does not mean they have actually sold 98% of all points for the resort. They could decide they want to keep 5%, 10%, etc. As an example, I believe BWV still has a room they can use to show people. That means they never sold those points in that room.
Yea the law wording from my understanding is they have to keep at LEAST 2%, doesn't mean they cant keep more.

If RIV rents from Disney as well as its said to, they might want to keep a larger percent of it?

I would guess they declare it sold out with the next 1m sold to get that 5% left over number hit. So 20 months left give or take based on current sales per month.
 
Summer used to be a peak season for WDW... it just isn't anymore... I think the points charts may eventually be redone to reference this... I think summer is priced too high and other times like January and early December are priced too low based on the demand I see...
Boardwalk already started , I think we’ll see more next year as there wasn’t much outcry
 

I'm in the camp that agrees with you it's a guide stretching the truth.

I showed the points sold at various points to try to show it's unlikely. Obviously, I did a poor job.
Easier explanation...
Declared 535k mid May.
Sell maybe 120k in the 3 months since then.
Declare another ~400K? Possible, but unlikely.

IF final declaration comment is legitimate...
If you can't fill the parks and go after locals via the AP offer, isn't it likely hotel bookings are down? Make the final declaration and start telling people it's about to be sold out. FOMO is a sales tactic.
It is because i got confused and yall had me thinking i need to buy now 😅
 
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I've been tracking flights and tickets for April 2026, for a few months now and prices on them have all dropped, especially the flights to MCO.
I just went and looked at direct flights in economy plus…. I’m going to put this in the “no way in H E Double Hockey Sticks” category.
 

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I just went and looked at direct flights in economy plus…. I’m going to put this in the “no way in H E Double Hockey Sticks” category.
Yeah flight costs for me for sure have not went down, to FL or to CA. Im trying to book for October and it's $270 on the extreme budget airlines to CA and Im under a 2 hour flight away.
 
And it seems like the “we will sell you 25 points at resorts we said we would only sell you 50 at” makes me think there is softness.
Wonder if we see the 150pt threshold for direct benefits ever reduced. Doubtful but some can dream.
 
I've been tracking flights and tickets for April 2026, for a few months now and prices on them have all dropped, especially the flights to MCO.
April is ~9 months away, and airfares that far in the future are usually like a hotel's "rack rate" (an elevated placeholder, way more than most people spend). It is lucrative to use frequent flyer miles for bookings that far in advance, though.

According to Google's AI, the best time to book domestic flights (I presume with actual money, not miles) is "1 to 3 months before departure". I would personally err towards 3 months.
 
Interestingly, the quarterly report narratives from Delta and (I think?) United were both pretty positive compared to the 25Q1calls. I'm not sure how much of that is business vs. lesiure spenidng, though.
 















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