Jon and Kate Plus 8. Official Thread!!

[ClarabelleCowFan]

How akward J and K live in the same neighborhood only around the corner three houses away from A. Jodi and U. Kevin!!!!!!!!!

I thought they moved out of that house.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

All my opinions on the show itself aside- I can't stand when anyone pulls out the jealousy card. Give me a break! People are not jealous of you (Kate). Perhaps you are being a brat and people are sick of it. I swear people tell themselves that others are jealous just so they don't have to admit they are not nice people and that's why they don't get along with anyone. Am I the only person who finds it strange that little by little their friends and family are disappearing? It can't be everyone. They are the common denominator. Surely someone would still be around if they truly were just misunderstood people.

 

[MichelleVW]

Yeah, I was hoping Kate would admit to her own mistakes but clearly she did not.

She was a little harsh. I have meltdowns and freak out too, but we laugh about them later and I admit I was being a nut.

Maybe Jon should ask her what she needs when she is freaking out though? I wonder if he's tried that, because I know when I am freaking out my DH doesn't walk away or argue, he knows how to calm me down so I stop spazzing.

 

[iblady2u]

First of all I love the show and I love the children they are so cute and adorable, but the show last night showed Kate's real personality, and the way she really treats Jon.
She should appreciate a husband that is so willing to help her raise 8 children the way he does. The episode where Jon was disciplining Colin and she went on and on about how to discipline him, really irked me because in another show when Hannah didn't want to eat, she sent her directly to time out just like Jon had did. And when Kate told Colin "not to listen to daddy" I thought what nerve, because everytime the children act out in public the first person she calls is "JON! JON!"
When my children were young and they got sick I always made sure they were COMFORTABLE in bed, what type of mother would put a sick child on the cold laundry floor and then close the door. Tell her to sleep on the laundry room floor the next time she is sick!
As far as Jodi is concerned I feel that Kate was jealous of her, because Jodi was so kind and loving to the children, even when disciplining them, you did not see her rant and rave like Kate does.
Jodi should have her own reality series on how to raise children, she seems so patient with them.
The way Kate treated Jon last night was uncalled for, did you see him biting his lip? I bet he told her a thing or two, when the cameras were not rolling, and then did you notice he could not even say he loved Kate, after she asked him over and over again, can you blame him??????

 

[FergieTCat]

All my opinions on the show itself aside- I can't stand when anyone pulls out the jealousy card. Give me a break! People are not jealous of you (Kate). Perhaps you are being a brat and people are sick of it. I swear people tell themselves that others are jealous just so they don't have to admit they are not nice people and that's why they don't get along with anyone. Am I the only person who finds it strange that little by little their friends and family are disappearing? It can't be everyone. They are the common denominator. Surely someone would still be around if they truly were just misunderstood people.

After reading some of these posts, I would agree with Kate.

 

[cepmom]

First of all I love the show and I love the children they are so cute and adorable, but the show last night showed Kate's real personality, and the way she really treats Jon.
She should appreciate a husband that is so willing to help her raise 8 children the way he does. The episode where Jon was disciplining Colin and she went on and on about how to discipline him, really irked me because in another show when Hannah didn't want to eat, she sent her directly to time out just like Jon had did. And when Kate told Colin "not to listen to daddy" I thought what nerve, because everytime the children act out in public the first person she calls is "JON! JON!"
When my children were young and they got sick I always made sure they were COMFORTABLE in bed, what type of mother would put a sick child on the cold laundry floor and then close the door. Tell her to sleep on the laundry room floor the next time she is sick!
As far as Jodi is concerned I feel that Kate was jealous of her, because Jodi was so kind and loving to the children, even when disciplining them, you did not see her rant and rave like Kate does.
Jodi should have her own reality series on how to raise children, she seems so patient with them.
The way Kate treated Jon last night was uncalled for, did you see him biting his lip? I bet he told her a thing or two, when the cameras were not rolling, and then did you notice he could not even say he loved Kate, after she asked him over and over again, can you blame him??????

I'm sorry but this just jumped out at me. I am a fan of the show; recently I have seen some things that both Jon and Kate have done that made me cringe so my opinion of them has started to turn a little, like many of us ( the one thing that immediately pops in to mind is when the boys couldn't eat their special birthday cupcakes because they had not eaten dinner....my heart broke for them! It's their birthday treat for goodness sakes! Bend the rules a little!)

sorry ~back to this quote....why should Kate be grateful she has a husband that is willing to raise HIS OWN 8 children???? Isn't that part of his job as their father???

 

[emer95]

Yes, it IS his job as a father, and he does an excellent job at it. Instead of appreciating him for the billions of things he does, she constantly harps on him, and makes comments like, "Men. We love them despite all of their faults." Can you imagine the backlash if Jon had said something similar?

I saw it in his face last night- he is being worn down by her constant nit-picking and negativity, as are a majority of Kate's fans, not to mention their friends and family. I do love the show and I only want good things for the family and especially those precious kids, but I can't help but wonder where this is going. How will it end? I wonder if a part of them ever regrets doing the show and becoming famous, and all that comes with it.

 

[Mom2Nick]

Yes, it IS his job as a father, and he does an excellent job at it. Instead of appreciating him for the billions of things he does, she constantly harps on him, and makes comments like, "Men. We love them despite all of their faults." Can you imagine the backlash if Jon had said something similar?

I saw it in his face last night- he is being worn down by her constant nit-picking and negativity, as are a majority of Kate's fans, not to mention their friends and family. I do love the show and I only want good things for the family and especially those precious kids, but I can't help but wonder where this is going. How will it end? I wonder if a part of them ever regrets doing the show and becoming famous, and all that comes with it.

I agree. I like the show, I love seeing the kids, I like Jon - I am really over Kate though. Nothing is ever her fault. She works hard and nobody helps and supports her is the message she is sending.

 

[cepmom]

I did not see last nights show yet, so maybe I'm missing something else. I have seen her harp on him many times and I will agree that it's over the top sometimes and sometimes I get the feeling it's done jokingly (when I see him laugh along...not always though) I have been like that to my DH at times and he really let me have it once about how it made him feel. I didn't realize I was that bad and have since changed my tone. I think Kate could do the same, but I don't think she should consider herself lucky that he helps like he does. He should be doing those things regardless.

 

[sha_lyn]

I'm sorry but this just jumped out at me. I am a fan of the show; recently I have seen some things that both Jon and Kate have done that made me cringe so my opinion of them has started to turn a little, like many of us ( the one thing that immediately pops in to mind is when the boys couldn't eat their special birthday cupcakes because they had not eaten dinner....my heart broke for them! It's their birthday treat for goodness sakes! Bend the rules a little!)

sorry ~back to this quote....why should Kate be grateful she has a husband that is willing to raise HIS OWN 8 children???? Isn't that part of his job as their father???

ITA.... they are his kids too. Shouldn't it go both ways. Shouldn't he also appreciate all that she has done, including giving up her nursing career?

 

[sha_lyn]

I did not see last nights show yet, so maybe I'm missing something else. I have seen her harp on him many times and I will agree that it's over the top sometimes and sometimes I get the feeling it's done jokingly (when I see him laugh along...not always though) I have been like that to my DH at times and he really let me have it once about how it made him feel. I didn't realize I was that bad and have since changed my tone. I think Kate could do the same, but I don't think she should consider herself lucky that he helps like he does. He should be doing those things regardless.

It was a best/favorites and worst moments clips show, so of course it showed a lot of her bad moments from the past.
Kate admitted that she didn't realize how she sounded at times, and Jon admitted that she had stopped yelling at him in public after seeing the show.


ETA: Remember that those were her worst moments over the entire course of the the show. I bet if any of us had a camera on us most of the time, that we would come off just as bad or worse if our worst momements were being highlighted.

 

[Tosie]

Love the show - the kids are adorable (although Mady is a PITA).

Jon is great - I like his humor and his laid back nature.

Kate - well - the one thing that sticks out for me is from the show about their dating/marriage/honeymoon. Her vocal affectation (baby voice) was so phony it made me cringe. How Jon could take that for more than 5 minutes is beyond me, but I guess some guys play right into it.

Flash forward to now - that baby voice and sweetness is long gone.

And for the record, if I slapped my husband in the face as much as Kate does, I'd probably be missing some teeth by now.

 

[MM27]

I'm amazed at some of the hostility people have for this show! I recently discovered this show a few weeks ago, and have been watching the reruns and coming up to speed.

It's a reality TV show, and of course having a camera in your face constantly will pick up everyone's "not-so-nice" moments. Those who are perfect in their lives may pass judgement, otherwise I think they're receiving some unfair criticism.

I have no clue what it's like to have eight children, and I'm guessing almost everyone else doesn't either. They appear to be doing the best they can, so my hats off to them. Everyone makes mistakes as a parent; but I don't believe everyone else has the added fun of having any mistakes they make televised nationally. Additionally, this show has provided Jon and Kate the opportunity to provide financial stability for the entire family (10 people! Think about how much that costs) for years to come. Who among us wouldn't jump at that opportunity? I don't have a huge problem with them taking advantage of the speaking engagements and other opportunities that have opened up for them. Strike while the iron's hot and make as much as you can.

I hope the show runs for a long time, and can't wait until all the sextuplets turn 15 or 16. Teenage drama x 6. You think the house is loud now, wait until high school begins

I agree with what you are saying, but after watching last night, I was very disappointed in Kate. The way she speaks to Jon is horrible. You could see he was very embarrassed, but was almost afraid to say anything to her.

Last night's show would have been a good time for her to look back and say, you know I was a little extreme at Toys R Us (or Disney, or Crayola or the other places) but instead she made excuses. I've been to Crayola during classtrip time when there are tons of kids all around. There is no way that there were "2000 people" in that room that Kate was talking about. And who screams across a room like that? Did you see everyone turn their heads to look? There was an excuse for everything that she did but never a "I was wrong."

As far as the speaking engagements and selling the photos and even the endorsements, I say if people are willing to pay them, why not take advantage of it. I would. I just hope for their sake and for the sake of those 8 children they are planning well with their money because eventually the cash cow will run dry. I highly doubt that any of the kids are going to want to have cameras following them around at 15 or 16, especially as much as they are now. At least with other families, like the Roloff's, they take breaks in between their filming so the kids can have a break and live "normal" lives.

 

[troobabiee7]

I love the show but haven't been on this thread in a while. I always thought it was crazy how Kate treated Jodi but is she really out of their lives?

 

[Momvic5]

It was a best/favorites and worst moments clips show, so of course it showed a lot of her bad moments from the past.
Kate admitted that she didn't realize how she sounded at times, and Jon admitted that she had stopped yelling at him in public after seeing the show.


ETA: Remember that those were her worst moments over the entire course of the the show. I bet if any of us had a camera on us most of the time, that we would come off just as bad or worse if our worst momements were being highlighted.

I think they could have used this episode for their benefit. They could of looked back on their worst moments and laughed together and at themselves , but instead, those moments were relived and rehashed. They now have next season's worst moments episode!!!

 

[ALittleDisneyFan]

I was thinking of this today and wondering what everyone else thinks... How much longer do you think the show will be on? Realistically, I think it will be done in the next year or two. In my opinion, it just seems as if they are desperately trying to find things to tape.

 

[Wonders10]

Love the show - the kids are adorable (although Mady is a PITA).

PITA? Seems a little harsh - she's a 7 yr old child.

 

[ksumn1]

I've always defended Kate. I know that the show is not too edited so she is FAR from perfect. I have a personality similar to Kate's. I'm a bit OCD, at times critical, nit picky and I'm never wrong. Except......sometimes I AM worng. It may take a few seconds, minutes and sometimes days to really realize that I either said or did something that was out of line. Usually it's a combinatin of stuff. Me too picky, DH too lazy and I just go into freak out mode and lose it. But I do apologize and try to make amends.

I was upset by the Embarassing moments show. I see where in Kate's eyes Jon was a little lax in the kid partrolling department or just being more inattentive than she would have liked. But it really bothered me that she didn't even acknowledge that she "might" have over reacted and was a little too critical. I still think that in general her hearts in the right place, and so is Jon's. They are just 2 totally different types of people (and parents) and her personality is stronger so her way is usually "their" way. My house is much the same except my DH puts his foot down occasioanlly (when it's imortant) and tells me when I'm wrong.

I think that you can't totally blame Kate, if Jon's not really being outspoken or being firm about what he feels. He seem passive aggressive. Makes little comments and puts on the hang dog face but really tries to do nothing to change it. It's a marraige and it's 50/50. You can't just balame the one person when the other person lets it happen.

IMHO, I still will watch the show. Love the kids (except Maddie needs a little more discipline for the whining issue) still like Jon and Kate, and I'll be sad to see Aunt Jodui leave. She does love the kids and the laid back atmoshpere at her home is a good change for them. I think that if I had camera filming my every move, I'd probably come off as just as domineering and controlling as Kate, if not more. And if they can do speaking engagements to provide for the family....more power to them. I'd do the same.

 

[Wonders10]

I thought they moved out of that house.

No, they still live in jodi/kevin's neighborhood. The house they moved out of was the house in the first special - they said they needed more space and liked that the new house (their current house) is closer to jodi/kevin.

 

[momx2]

It was a best/favorites and worst moments clips show, so of course it showed a lot of her bad moments from the past.
Kate admitted that she didn't realize how she sounded at times, and Jon admitted that she had stopped yelling at him in public after seeing the show.


ETA: Remember that those were her worst moments over the entire course of the the show. I bet if any of us had a camera on us most of the time, that we would come off just as bad or worse if our worst momements were being highlighted.

Actually Jon pointed out 2 more times she had yelled at him in public and the clips were showed. Kate may have admitted some stuff, but I found her to be very defensive and seemed upset that she was looking bad. Hey, she agreed to be on t.v. didn't she.....

I'm not saying I have not done things I would be ashamed of, but I would hope I would admit to them after seeing them on t.v. and apologize. Plus, I have never yelled at my DH in a public setting. Also, the way she claps her hands at them tells me she has an anger issue she is trying to manage, very poorly.