Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

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I'm talking about what they do now, not what the future might bring. Supposedly that was started months ago (the 15%) when PA first started to look into the filming. It's in the paperwork when PA announced they weren't fining them for the past. A trust can be many different things..I don't remember how this one was set up, beyond the 15%. At the time, I didn't think that was very much money, and I thought I was surprised that some of it could still be used. TLC said they already had a kids account (J & K), but as we all remember, Jon had said they could use it if needed, so that was not a non revocable trust.

(Answering for 3PrettyPrincesses as well)

I'm assuming that is what is implied they should do. But given they know how to take advantage of loopholes, I haven't seen that expressly stated in any law.

The 15% is for trust to be saved when the kids are older--so it could be used for college. It cannot be used for their present private school education as that is a current expense and my understanding is that a trust is to save money for later.
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But I would love to see each of them say on the old $75,000 per episode --- make anywhere from $2000-$5000 per episode per child. So that is $16,000 to $40,000 with Kate taking home the balance of the per episode fee. .
I thought we found out they weren't very smart with the negotiations and didn't make anywhere near that amount per episode?
 
I thought we found out they weren't very smart with the negotiations and didn't make anywhere near that amount per episode?

No idea--but I'm guessing Kate has since learned her lesson. In any case--I was just using it for a math example.:upsidedow

If they make less per each of these specials, then I'd reduce my expectations by whatever percent they make less. So if they only make $50, cut the rates by a third for example.:upsidedow
 
"the dance floor is not there anymore because Mom got eliminated"

:lmao::lmao:

That was hilarious!
 

If PA is trying to do some version of the Coogan law--it would be 15% of each child's earnings...NOT the entire earnings hte family receives for doing a show.

As it stands--like it or not...if the sextuplets are working, so is Kate and she is entitled to receive a paycheck from TLC just as they are. She doesn't nor shouldn't be expected to contribute 15% of her salary for the kids.

Billy Ray Cyrus receives an independent check from Miley Cyrus for his activity on Hannah Montana--he is not expected to contribute 15% to Miley as that is not the purpose of the Coogan Law. It is to protect the earnings of the minor.

My understanding--is that PA is requiring 15% of the kids' earnings to be put in trust. It doesn't make sense any other way. ETA: This also means that the other 85% is unprotected to the point that Kate can use (or sadly not use) it on the kids. She can use it for anything that benefits the kids, including but not limited to their education, clothing, etc.

OK, my synopsis - for what it is worth:

PA investigated and found TLC and the Gosselin parents in violation of PA current Child Labor laws, because the kids have been deemed to be working without permits. They settled that issue back in March, by requiring TLC and the Gosselin parents to obtain work permits in the future and put some monies in trust retroactively. TLC essentially paid a fine so that 15% of what the Gosselin parents had been paid in the past, was put in a trust for the kids. We have no evidence that anything at all was put in trust for the working children prior to this ruling. PA does not have a Coogan law right now. That is a California law.

TLC and the Gosselin parents agreed (reluctantly) with the ruling, put 15% in trust for the kids, and applied for work permits in order to be able to resume filming. Yes, they agreed that the children areworking.

Better than nothing, but much too little, much too late. Even that 15% is still not protected because the Gosselin parents can still tap it for medical and educational expenses.

With the new work permits TLC and Kate (now the custodial parent) must comply with the current laws that they were quite blatently disregarding before. Thus TLC's latest press commenting that Kate & 8 will be more focused on Kate. An educated guess is that they will limit filming of the kids because they are now more resticted on the hours the children work even under current law.

Rep Murt of PA was furious that the DOL was so restricted under current law in assessing penalties for dodging it, and disgusted at what had been filmed. He and the committee he convened has filed new legislation to help all kids in entertainment, including the G children. Apparently it is 31 pages long and a Coogan-type law. It has yet to pass.

I have not seen it yet, but it should be interesting. It promises (from the overviews I have seen) to be much more restrictive on the hours of work allowed for the kids. Photo shoots for magazines will be counted as working hours. Working hours will be limited and overseen by an independent *teacher* whose job description will be to keep an eye on the welfare of the children.

What Kate (and perhaps Jon, because his role is unclear as the non-custodial parent, although he will probably have to sign off on it) decide to sign in future contracts with TLC regarding the kids will be interesting and under scrutiny. Worst case, what Kate signs *may* be 90% for her and 10% for the kids, of which only 15% of that 10% is put in trust for all 8 children.

TLC is fighting Rep Murt's proposed legislation. We will see what happens.

It is a mess. I just hope the new legislation passes so that the kids are paid something for their work and their meagre 15% of whatever contract is signed on their behalf is protected for them. I do not trust either Gosselin parent to do the right thing at this point.

I'm not watching Kate & 8. On principle.
 
Why, does Kate have to keep saying to the boys, things like beat the pinatta like a man. And come on squeeze the orange juice harder your a boy. COme, on Kate have a bit more class!!

Can't she see that the twins are miserable??
 
First of all, I did not get the feeling the older girls were happy to see the camera's. I understand they might have just been caught off guard. The little kids seemed thrilled and the camera people were great towards them. I did notice they are using booster seats, which didn't bother me at all, in case that comes up again ;).

That said, I thought this show was just plain boring. Yawn yawn yawn. I can't imagine I will find time to sit through another one unless I have nothing else to do.
 
Why, does Kate have to keep saying to the boys, things like beat the pinatta like a man. And come on squeeze the orange juice harder your a boy. COme, on Kate have a bit more class!!

Can't she see that the twins are miserable??

Fodder for the tell all book. So tacky. Whatever this show is that's on now is really bad. Is it still Kate plus 8? She said so many dumb things in the little bit I watched, I can't possibly repeat them all. Is she for real or is this all a joke? The hitting and name calling and bickering, and getting the twins a pinata of their own, and Kate not seeing the cake until the camera panned to it, and no one at their party except the crew; it's all so weird. Did you know Steve is Australian? Makes him even finer imo!

Okay right now, they are showing the kids coloring in high chairs. This footage was in May, the month they turned 6. The look RIDICULOUS. They are also using baby size crayons and wearing bibs.
Just kidding about the bibs!
 
"the dance floor is not there anymore because Mom got eliminated"

:lmao::lmao:

That was hilarious!

:lmao: I forgot who said it, was it Aiden or Colin?

First of all, I did not get the feeling the older girls were happy to see the camera's. I understand they might have just been caught off guard. The little kids seemed thrilled and the camera people were great towards them. I did notice they are using booster seats, which didn't bother me at all, in case that comes up again ;).

I thought the same thing, the twins didn't look happy at all. Especially Cara.
 
WHo is this Jamie?? And why is she on the show now?? Just to make Kate look better. Come on!!
 
WHo is this Jamie?? And why is she on the show now?? Just to make Kate look better. Come on!!
She has been on before. I also think she is the ex wife of the person who redid her kitchen, unless I'm mixing up my people.
 
WHo is this Jamie?? And why is she on the show now?? Just to make Kate look better. Come on!!

There's been talk before of her friend Jamie. And wasn't she the one who's been around the house with the kids in the past too? I guess she's the new Carla then? It would just make me feel better to see one of her relatives around though, wouldn't it? As much as Kate makes me crazy, I wish she had family instead of production assistants and bodyguards. Which of course begs the never ending question, where are her family? If the paps are around truly as much as she and Steve say, then surely we'd have seen a pic of her with a member of her family, right? I hope they're in her life in some way.

And I like Steve, he seems very no nonsense with Kate. She seems to like that too.
 
WHo is this Jamie?? And why is she on the show now?? Just to make Kate look better. Come on!!

She is hired help and Kate's new bff! She's the one who was photographed back in the fall screaming at the kids and grabbing them roughly by the arms. They were of course in the front yard/driveway. Did anyone catch the footage of the yard and see all the areas they could be playing not accessible for cameras? The crooked houses sure are cute. Kate got very annoyed at Aiden's house because she hit her head on it. Because of her annoyance with the house, he (Aiden) "should work a little faster." :confused3Whatever...
 
I'm not watching Kate & 8. On principle.

I'm with you..

From what I've read here though, it's just basically another train wreck again..:sad2:

Keeping my fingers crossed that Kate's new show of her own (which I'm assuming will not involve the kids) will be a HUGE success and the kids will no longer have to work..

Best of luck on your own show, Kate!!! :thumbsup2 :goodvibes
 
But more of the same Maddy has some serious issues sorry but she does.

As for the baloney about how the little kids got 3 birthdays. I tell ya if my almost 10 year old said one more flippin word about it.( LIke She did) the following year there would be 8 Single parties. One for each indiviual child.
I started that with my twins last year at 9. they are 2 seperate people.:rolleyes1
 
:thumbsup2 LOL

As for the baloney about how the little kids got 3 birthdays. I tell ya if my almost 10 year old said one more flippin word about it.( LIke She did) the following year there would be 8 Single parties. One for each indiviual child.
I started that with my twins last year at 9. they are 2 seperate people.:rolleyes1
 
Doesn't Jamie have a son who was shown on past episodes? Wonder what happened to him?? I didn't watch the entire 2 hrs, but the bits and pieces I saw looked like a desperate attempt to save a dying show. I'm sorry, but the meltdown that Cara & Mady had about the birthday party (s) was right on. I predict Cara & Mady will end up living with their father when he gets a place of his own and gets a job. They are treated more like hired help then her older children. I'm sure both of them resent those 6 kids because of the special treatment they get.
When the film crew arrived it looked as though the kids hadn't seen a live person in a year. Maybe they were the only ones who paid attention to them. What a train wreck!:confused3
 
I didn't think it was a train wreck, just boring.
I assumed after all the time the kids spent with the crew, they prob were very happy to see them. The crew seemed to really be happy to be back with the kids.

Jon does have a place of his own, I don't know about a job. I would be surprised if he would take on any the kids, without them bringing him in some moola. They would definately cramp his style.

I didn't see that they were treated like hired help, I just saw that they were kids. Boring kids, but kids. I don't think they liked that the attention wasn't on them.

I wonder how often this will be on.

Doesn't Jamie have a son who was shown on past episodes? Wonder what happened to him?? I didn't watch the entire 2 hrs, but the bits and pieces I saw looked like a desperate attempt to save a dying show. I'm sorry, but the meltdown that Cara & Mady had about the birthday party (s) was right on. I predict Cara & Mady will end up living with their father when he gets a place of his own and gets a job. They are treated more like hired help then her older children. I'm sure both of them resent those 6 kids because of the special treatment they get.
When the film crew arrived it looked as though the kids hadn't seen a live person in a year. Maybe they were the only ones who paid attention to them. What a train wreck!:confused3
 
and there has to be something going on with the body guard.. just the way she talked about him...

something always bothered me when the bought the new house she explained to the kids the rules to the master bed room how they couldnt come in unless it was like an emergency. (it was like she was tring to hid something or someone)
 
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