Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[madge]

I don't think Kate wants to be there either, it is getting "too hard" for her. But, I think people are voting for her, just so she does stay on. Her make-up and dress last nite - Mommy Dearest? Yikes, it was scary to look at her.

Kate's going to live and die (so to speak) by the fans .. she needs them in order to be a success, but at the same time, these same fans are going to continue to vote her to stay on DWTS, where she's only going to become a bigger mockery than she's already been in the 3 episodes she's danced.

I wonder how many votes have been cast by people who recognize she's terrible and want her to stay for the entertainment value?

 

[talulabelle]

I think it is wrong of him to go after like that. But I also think it is wrong for how CS he has to pay. doesn;t make sense, if they can;t do the job that they have been doing to get that amount of money why does he have to pay like he is still making that kind of money?

Honestly, that is ridiculous. It would be cheaper for him to have custody. Then, he could decide at what socio-economic statesphere they lived at and he could keep them at a more frugal level. He could also get child support payments from Kate, and if they are that much based on what he is making (which is $0 from what we can tell) I imagine it would be quite lucrative based on what she is making. I'm sure that he doesn't want to take the kids away from her, but it is the only way to get the court and Kate to listen about how his payments are crazy.

 

[cheermom1]

Man he irritates me!!!!!!

I agree that his child support is too much though. time for him to get a j-o-b.

Of course he needs a job and should pay what he should but I don't think he will ever get a job that pays as much as their show made them. So why doesn he have to pay like he is still making that kind of money. they really need to look at things like this realistically!

I also think he is stupid for going after her like that too, with what he has been doing lately he won;t win.

 

[cheermom1]

Honestly, that is ridiculous. It would be cheaper for him to have custody. Then, he could decide at what socio-economic statesphere they lived at and he could keep them at a more frugal level. He could also get child support payments from Kate, and if they are that much based on what he is making (which is $0 from what we can tell) I imagine it would be quite lucrative based on what she is making. I'm sure that he doesn't want to take the kids away from her, but it is the only way to get the court and Kate to listen about how his payments are crazy.

That could very well be the case, but he still needs a job to show he is trying. I said before that he will never get a job that paid as much as when they had the show and that is what they need to look at. So again why is he being made to pay based on what he use to make? I know that sometimes it is based on his potential, but in this case it was the kids that really made this not him.

 

[madge]

from TMZ today:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/06/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-child-custody-/

Jon Gosselin Goes After Kate in Court

Jon Gosselin thinks "Dancing with the Stars" is damaging his kids, thanks to Kate Gosselin ... and Jon now wants primary custody as well as spousal support from his ex ... TMZ has learned.

Jon's new lawyer, former assistant U.S. Attorney Anthony F. List, tells TMZ he's going to court to ask for primary physical custody. List calls Kate, "an absentee mom," which he says is no surprise to anyone.

List expects to use "DWTS" as evidence that Kate does not spend "quality time with the 8 kids."

List also thinks Jon is getting screwed in the child support department, claiming "$20,000 a month is ridiculous."

In addition to primary custody, List says he's considering asking the judge to reverse the support obligation and make Kate pay Jon. He did not specify the amount.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/06/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-child-custody-/#ixzz0kLCy1IWQ

I'm not surprised this has come up. There was an article published in Us Weekly not long ago detailing how much time Kate was with the children when it was her turn for custody. The nannies had them outside most of the time and Kate came out to leave, where she went to the tanning salon. According to was like that much of the weekend. There have been other similar tabloid accounts of how Kate spends her time. It's also been widely reported that Jon wanted to be with the children while she was away, and Kate wouldn't allow it... having the children stay with the nannies.

ugly, ugly, ugly. the whole thing is so ugly.... I'm thankful there have been few pics of the kids, and the ones that are published, they look happy. The nannies must be doing a good job. (and I don't mean that as a slam to Jon or Kate. I just happen to believe that the nannies are doing the bulk of the childcare right now)

 

[Toad_Passenger]

I think it is wrong of him to go after like that. But I also think it is wrong for how CS he has to pay. doesn;t make sense, if they can;t do the job that they have been doing to get that amount of money why does he have to pay like he is still making that kind of money?

My BIL was married to the Devil. Seriously, the female version of the Devil. Even with a laundry list of evidence of insurance fraud, visits from Child & Family Services, getting fired from job after job after job, and countless other things this woman has done, he has fought an uphill battle. The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's laws are setup to be an advantage for the mother. It has been very sad to see how he has been treated in the face of all this evidence against her, and how much money he has to send to her every month so she can continue to be a drain on society.

 

[madge]

with what he has been doing lately he won;t win.

hasn't Jon been laying low, for the most part? He had a girlfriend and they broke up .. but, I haven't seen anything real scandalous lately. (I haven't been looking, though .. I might have missed something) And by lately, I mean this week.

of course, that could all change in a second.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

from TMZ today:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/06/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-child-custody-/

Jon Gosselin Goes After Kate in Court

Jon Gosselin thinks "Dancing with the Stars" is damaging his kids, thanks to Kate Gosselin ... and Jon now wants primary custody as well as spousal support from his ex ... TMZ has learned.

Jon's new lawyer, former assistant U.S. Attorney Anthony F. List, tells TMZ he's going to court to ask for primary physical custody. List calls Kate, "an absentee mom," which he says is no surprise to anyone.

List expects to use "DWTS" as evidence that Kate does not spend "quality time with the 8 kids."

List also thinks Jon is getting screwed in the child support department, claiming "$20,000 a month is ridiculous."

In addition to primary custody, List says he's considering asking the judge to reverse the support obligation and make Kate pay Jon. He did not specify the amount.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/06/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-child-custody-/#ixzz0kLCy1IWQ

Oh Jon. Jon, Jon, Jon. What are you doing?? I'm sorry but that whole lawsuit claim sounds like he doesn't want to pay for child support and is looking for a way to force Kate to pay him. What an idiot, he's going to put those 8 little kids through a custody battle. Kate's not going to let him have primary custody. This is all a smoke screen for Jon to get out of paying so much for child support. I'm completely disgusted with him. So now his kids will have more documented proof that their parents can't get along and that their father is accusing their mother of being a bad mom. Lovely.

 

[talulabelle]

THis was good from Yahoo:

Kate Gosselin and Tony Dovolani: 15/30 At the beginning of something somewhat resembling the paso doble, A-list actress Kate, an awards-show mainstay, posed in ''triumph'' at the top of a ''red carpet.'' The tabloids in her hands cheered her on: ''KATE FIGHTS BACK!'' Oh, f--- those rags! She tossed them away, disgusted. Behold: a stone cold gaze toward the camera. Now what? Was she about to start vogueing? No. She just stood there, scowling. Tale as old as time! Keep in mind, this storybook scenario does not happen in real life — especially not in that dress —, but it sure does happen in Kate's mind. ABC has simply taken the liberty of parading Kate's delusion in front of over 20 million people. They shall be prosecuted in full. .



This also hilarious - the above article linked a webpage selling "Free Tony" tshirts - here is the link:

http://www.cafepress.com/savetonydwts

 

[talulabelle]

Can anyone give me the link to Kates perfomance this week on YouTube, I can't find this weeks. I didn't want to have to sift through all the dances and commercials on the DWTS website. I have only seen clips of it ...but want to see the whole thing.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I'm not surprised this has come up. There was an article published in Us Weekly not long ago detailing how much time Kate was with the children when it was her turn for custody. The nannies had them outside most of the time and Kate came out to leave, where she went to the tanning salon. According to was like that much of the weekend. There have been other similar tabloid accounts of how Kate spends her time. It's also been widely reported that Jon wanted to be with the children while she was away, and Kate wouldn't allow it... having the children stay with the nannies.

ugly, ugly, ugly. the whole thing is so ugly.... I'm thankful there have been few pics of the kids, and the ones that are published, they look happy. The nannies must be doing a good job. (and I don't mean that as a slam to Jon or Kate. I just happen to believe that the nannies are doing the bulk of the childcare right now)

Well, to play devil's advocate, there are moms who have nannies that watch the kids more than them. Should they lose custody too? Their kids aren't taken away.

As for Jon, ya, he really seems to want to be with kids. Like when he was living in Utah with his latest girlfriend. Utah is like what, 15 states away from Pennsylvania? Yup, he wanted to be close to them! Unfortunately I think Jon has proven himself time and again. He's an immature man child looking for any woman who will be his and provide him somewhere to live. His judgment is seriously clouded with his own desires. If his kids were his top priority, he'd be with them a lot or at least in the same state. Now that Kate is in the spotlight and Jon is feeling the crunch of child support, he files a lawsuit. My guess is that this newest lawyer is scrambling to look for ways to get Jon out of paying so much child support a month. That's all.

 

[madge]

hmmm ... I hate the paparazzi, yet I'm giving an interview to RadarOnline ...
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...iews-kate-gosselin-says-shes-ready-date-again

 

[walden]

from TMZ today:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/06/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-child-custody-/

Jon Gosselin Goes After Kate in Court

Predictable.

http://www.current-movie-reviews.com/tv/2010/04/05/tony-dovolani-wants-kate-gosselin-to-lose-dwts/ (Quotes anonymous friend of Tony.)

And, for what it is worth: http://smalltowngosselins.blogspot.com/2010/04/easter-at-gosselins.html

 

[madge]

Well, to play devil's advocate, there are moms who have nannies that watch the kids more than them. Should they lose custody too? Their kids aren't taken away.

I made no suggestion that I thought Kate should lose custody. All I said was that I'm not surprised Jon did this, based on what I've read.

 

[DMRick]

It's also been widely reported that Jon wanted to be with the children while she was away, and Kate wouldn't allow it... having the children stay with the nannies.

I believe that was a while ago. Jon said in an interview recently (where he was actually doing the talking) that he is staying with them while Kate is on DWTS, and he praised Kate for being on the show. I have no idea how much time Kate or Jon spend with the kids. She is practicing at home, and I assume a lot of that time is when the kids are in school. She certainly seems to be the more responsible parent at this time, and it seems the court agreed. Will we all second guess the court based on the fact we saw Kate take a couple of her kids off for a manicure?

I wonder if Jon has given up any money towards support. That may be what they said he had to give (and they usually base it on your current pay, unless they feel you are not working on purpose to avoid payment), but I wonder if he has given anything.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I made no suggestion that I thought Kate should lose custody. All I said was that I'm not surprised Jon did this, based on what I've read.

Sorry Madge, I didn't mean to offend! I guess my point was that there are lots of pampered moms with nannies who run the show with regards to the kids yet Jon is basically claiming she's a bad mom (absentee). Of course it's all speculation, we don't know how much time Kate spends with them. I'd like to think it is a lot since they're still young and dealing with divorced parents. I have a real soft spot for kids who have to go through that.

I agree, I'm not surprised he filed either. But I think it was from selfish reasons. I can't help feeling like it's similar to his whole 'I want my kids off of tv' speech when it seems now that it was all about $. He's agreed to let them back on so long as TLC settles with him. I've said it before, Jon seems so lost. I am sure he loves his kids and they seem crazy about him but he just has no direction. It's sad actually, isn't it? But as for him filing this claim, I suppose it really is to be expected if he's been reading the reports that Kate is gone from the kids a lot.

 

[DMRick]

hmmm ... I hate the paparazzi, yet I'm giving an interview to RadarOnline ...
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...iews-kate-gosselin-says-shes-ready-date-again

I'm surprised that DWTS let Radar on the stage. They always have a bunch of people doing the interviews and the dancers go from one to another. DWTS wants the free publicity, I'm sure. I wonder if it's in the contract that they have to talk to them all. I'm not sure why they called it exclusive. I would think if the other interviewers asked her the same questions, she would give the same answers. What makes it exclusive when it's on the stage of the show?

As for the ball playing on the front lawn..when you look at the pictures from the ground, it appears that the area right near the pool is leveled, but a lot of the area behind the house (look to the right in the balloon picture) is a hill, as is the area to the left of the house. It goes down and then up, towards the barns. Maybe that's why they play ball there, and ride bikes, etc. Because it's the levelest area? Of course the driveway is perfect for bikes, versus grass and a hill.

 

[DMRick]

I'm with you. I've not seen in the mags anything that Kate has done since the show stopped that would be detrimental to the kids.
I'm thinking he's thinking, hey, if I get the kids, I get money. He doesn't even live in PA..what would he do with the kids? Of course no one prob has to worry about him leaving them while he goes off to earn money, since he doesn't a a job. And it appears there is no girlfriend right now, for him to follow to Utah or France.

I agree, I'm not surprised he filed either. But I think it was from selfish reasons. I can't help feeling like it's similar to his whole 'I want my kids off of tv' speech when it seems now that it was all about $. He's agreed to let them back on so long as TLC settles with him. I've said it before, Jon seems so lost. I am sure he loves his kids and they seem crazy about him but he just has no direction. It's sad actually, isn't it? But as for him filing this claim, I suppose it really is to be expected if he's been reading the reports that Kate is gone from the kids a lot.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Predictable.

http://www.current-movie-reviews.com/tv/2010/04/05/tony-dovolani-wants-kate-gosselin-to-lose-dwts/ (Quotes anonymous friend of Tony.)

And, for what it is worth: http://smalltowngosselins.blogspot.com/2010/04/easter-at-gosselins.html

Jon's an idiot.

Tony is unprofessional if he is saying all that and needs to find new friends if they feel the need to leak that gossip.

I didn't get the impression that Tony wants Kate to lose.

If that is the case, then he has no business being on the show with any Dance partner. Their job on that show is to make their celeb shine to the best of their abilities--not wish their demise. It makes it seriously questionable of if he truly is doing his best to help her, or if he is letting her take the fall.

If the latter--then it is cheating. No pro has the right to do that to their celeb.

 

[madge]

I believe that was a while ago. Jon said in an interview recently (where he was actually doing the talking) that he is staying with them while Kate is on DWTS, and he praised Kate for being on the show.

This Us Weekly wasn't from long ago. Maybe 2 weeks. I have no idea if the article is online or not, what I read was in the actual magazine. It may be that Jon's there more. I hope that's the case. I don't see any reason why he couldn't be if Kate is away.

have no idea how much time Kate or Jon spend with the kids. She is practicing at home, and I assume a lot of that time is when the kids are in school. She certainly seems to be the more responsible parent at this time, and it seems the court agreed. Will we all second guess the court based on the fact we saw Kate take a couple of her kids off for a manicure?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean...

I don't think anyone here is second guessing the court's decision -- all I've read is comments about not being surprised Jon is doing this, and comments about how people think it's not a good idea. I have't read anything that says, "hey! good for Jon! it's about time he sues for custody!" LOL .. I can't imagine anyone here would think or say that. Someone might, and then I'd be surprised.

I wonder if Jon has given up any money towards support. That may be what they said he had to give (and they usually base it on your current pay, unless they feel you are not working on purpose to avoid payment), but I wonder if he has given anything.

good question! I haven't seen anything that suggests he hasn't, but I'm not scouring the internet for Gosselin info like I was a year ago.