Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[DMRick]

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He could have just said, "kate isn't aswering questions, please move along".

And he may or may not have. I am surprised that he touched her, without asking her first to leave. It would be a boring story if that's all that happened though LOL.

I don't see how, with DWTS and her book promotion she managed to get home this past week. I wonder if she Skypes.

I've been reading in different articles that she is looking for houses in CA with lots of bedrooms. I wonder if that is true.

 

[Buckalew11]

So they only ask kate to come early because her extentions set off the metal detectors. What about everyone else who has extentions? I'm sure alot of people have them. Shouldn't TSA ask those with extensions to arrive early? Is seems this is just another case where Kate believes she is "special" and deserves/gets "special" treatment.

Can you imagine if Kate got pulled and had to go through a pattdown.

No, no, no! It isn't the extensions themselves, it is the bobby pins.

Kate getting pulled for a patdown couldn't be any worse than my mother who was about as ticked off as one could possibly get about it. I could not calm her down.


So this lady blogger was SICK when she went to this book signing. How nice. Couldn't read past that. Anyone that sick but HAD to go to a Kate Gosselin book signing has some mental disturbances imho.

 

[OhMari]

And he may or may not have. I am surprised that he touched her, without asking her first to leave. It would be a boring story if that's all that happened though LOL.

I don't see how, with DWTS and her book promotion she managed to get home this past week. I wonder if she Skypes.

I've been reading in different articles that she is looking for houses in CA with lots of bedrooms. I wonder if that is true.

I saw on CNN last nite, that when ever Kate is on any talk show, the ratings go through the roof. I think we are all baffled by this. But it must be true I'm sure she is being told or she is being asked to be in commercials or maybe a regular tv show. During Jon & Kate's show, they were really starting to appear in a lot of commercials. Heck, when I walked in Walmart, Kate was promoting some products on the tv's, that were strategically placed around the store.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

So this lady blogger was SICK when she went to this book signing. How nice. Couldn't read past that. Anyone that sick but HAD to go to a Kate Gosselin book signing has some mental disturbances imho.

That was funny!

I don't know what I think of that article. It's strange and might very well be true but still, it sounds strange. Why would a person with a bad infection who was just at the doctors office for bloodwork still go to B&N for a book signing with Kate Gosselin?? Weird.

I read the radaronline story on it too, there were actually 2 stories about it but they pulled the first one off the site. I guess it wasn't too flattering to Kate...not many people showed and she stopped after only 1/2 hour. Here's a link to the original story about Kate's book signing:

http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/04/17/radaronline-caught-you-red-handed/

 

[DMRick]

I'm trying to figure out the times. The one up now says posted on Apr 17, 2010 @ 10:01AM. Maybe it's too blurry, but the ones in the link below have the date (I think) as the 16th at 5:23pm for the first one and 6:15pm for the second one..didn't the book signing just happen in the evening of the 16th, after the time this was posted as? Where is radar on line located, anyone know what state? What state was the book signing?


My eyes are buggy trying to see the dates, I'll let one of you young 'uns post the date and times. I just thought the times are wierd.

. Here's a link to the original story about Kate's book signing:

http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/04/17/radaronline-caught-you-red-handed/

 

[Dee77]

I don't see how, with DWTS and her book promotion she managed to get home this past week. I wonder if she Skypes.

I've been reading in different articles that she is looking for houses in CA with lots of bedrooms. I wonder if that is true.

Even if she Skypes I don't think that equals quality time with her 8 children. Since she brings in such high ratings and book sales etc. I am surprised that she can't negotiate a mandatory x number of days she must be home in PA, but then again maybe even she/her handler thought she wouldn't still be on DWTS.

As for her moving to CA, she was asked that by a reporter after last week's DWTS and her answer was no, that she can't afford it and she doesn't have a job there.

If there is any morsel of truth to the rumor of her moving to the West coast, that would make this recent custody issue look like a walk in the park. Unless Jon is on board, I doubt she can even consider it.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I'm trying to figure out the times. The one up now says posted on Apr 17, 2010 @ 10:01AM. Maybe it's too blurry, but the ones in the link below have the date (I think) as the 16th at 5:23pm for the first one and 6:15pm for the second one..didn't the book signing just happen in the evening of the 16th, after the time this was posted as? Where is radar on line located, anyone know what state? What state was the book signing?


My eyes are buggy trying to see the dates, I'll let one of you young 'uns post the date and times. I just thought the times are wierd.

Your eyes are right Doris! The original one said Apr. 16th 5:23pm. Then the new one said Apr. 16th 6:15pm. The current one up now says Apr. 16 7:15pm.

I think those dates must be wrong though because the book signing was on Friday night, the 16th. Either way, it's strange that they had one description of Kate's book signing and then took it down to put up another more favorable one. Haven't we speculated () that radaronline was working with TLC somehow?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Even if she Skypes I don't think that equals quality time with her 8 children. Since she brings in such high ratings and book sales etc. I am surprised that she can't negotiate a mandatory x number of days she must be home in PA, but then again maybe even she/her handler thought she wouldn't still be on DWTS.

As for her moving to CA, she was asked that by a reporter after last week's DWTS and her answer was no, that she can't afford it and she doesn't have a job there.

If there is any morsel of truth to the rumor of her moving to the West coast, that would make this recent custody issue look like a walk in the park. Unless Jon is on board, I doubt she can even consider it.

My husband has been away for quite a while. We do how we can manage. My 3yo today asked where his dad was. Explained it as best I could and got dad promptly on the phone.

Whlie it isn't face to face time--no parent should be judged regardless of their profession to do what they need to do to be the main breadwinner. Child support or not.

It saddens me that Kate is crucified under such actions--and then it is explained away. Could she have a different career? Absolutely, but why is that her burden b/c her husband walked from the marriage and gave up his kids to her primary custody?

But people do this everyday.

It doesn't make her a bad parent for doing that--and in this case--it isn't a justifiable custody argument, considering her ex-husband wished her well and was "on board".

And in many states, unless specifically stipulated and agreed to, Jon would be very hard pressed to not allow a move if it was deemed necessary for Kate's career choice.


As for CA--DWTS is a temporary gig. Unless she lands something based out of LA, there really is no reason for her to move. She already has an agent and the "clout" (I use that term loosely)--to not have to move to CA unless something actually occurs. Those trying to make it will move to CA to make the audition process easier by being a presence, but Kate is past that stage.


***When I say it saddens me that Kate is crucified--I want to be clear that I don't feel sad for KATE...I feel sad for the crucifiction of her employment behavior. If this were Jon, noone would give too flips and it is b/c he is a man. Men never are subject to such scrutiny. Kate gets it b/c she is a woman and she isn't nice. Double whammy.

 

[DMRick]

Kate is working, just like others do. Doesn't make her a bad mother just because she is not physically there right now. We've been told the kids are happy she is on DWTS and I doubt it will be for much longer, and then she can start spending more of her days that she has them, with them.

I guess if she came back and was a nurse (to make some of those who feel she shouldn't be leaving her children happy), she'd get to spend a lot of time with them..but not unless she found the perfect very very well paying job that happened to be right when the kids were in school, so she wouldn't have to have a nanny (she wouldn't have enough to pay one anyway). She could work 8:30 -2:30 (and I'm sure as a nurse she'd get out right on time) so she'd get them off to school, be home when they are, pick up those that are in any after school activities,, get the meal on the table, do the laundry for 9, clean up, and drop into bed. Yep, that would give her good quality time. Oh, and then go work her second job on the weekend, since 28 hours of pay, isn't going to cut it. Oh, maybe she won't have to get a second job, because her legal bills and past expenses, and the loss on selling the house and buying a smaller one, didn't eat into the millions she has in savings and of course Jon will get some wonderful job and continue paying child support..

 

[kidshop]

My husband has been away for quite a while. We do how we can manage. My 3yo today asked where his dad was. Explained it as best I could and got dad promptly on the phone.

Whlie it isn't face to face time--no parent should be judged regardless of their profession to do what they need to do to be the main breadwinner. Child support or not.

It saddens me that Kate is crucified under such actions--and then it is explained away. Could she have a different career? Absolutely, but why is that her burden b/c her husband walked from the marriage and gave up his kids to her primary custody?

But people do this everyday.

It doesn't make her a bad parent for doing that--and in this case--it isn't a justifiable custody argument, considering her ex-husband wished her well and was "on board".

And in many states, unless specifically stipulated and agreed to, Jon would be very hard pressed to not allow a move if it was deemed necessary for Kate's career choice.


As for CA--DWTS is a temporary gig. Unless she lands something based out of LA, there really is no reason for her to move. She already has an agent and the "clout" (I use that term loosely)--to not have to move to CA unless something actually occurs. Those trying to make it will move to CA to make the audition process easier by being a presence, but Kate is past that stage.


***When I say it saddens me that Kate is crucified--I want to be clear that I don't feel sad for KATE...I feel sad for the crucifiction of her employment behavior. If this were Jon, noone would give too flips and it is b/c he is a man. Men never are subject to such scrutiny. Kate gets it b/c she is a woman and she isn't nice. Double whammy.

What if what your profession is...what you are selling.....is what a good parent you are? A Supermom. World's busiest mom. You don't see the irony in what she is promoting and working for? That is the issue for many. I think she recently cried that she wanted her babysitter's job. What a load.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

What if what your profession is...what you are selling.....is what a good parent you are? A Supermom. World's busiest mom. You don't see the irony in what she is promoting and working for? That is the issue for many. I think she recently cried that she wanted her babysitter's job. What a load.

Not at all. She still has to work.

And right now she's selling too things--conveyor of secrets to her children and how much she sucks at Dancing.

In any case--irony or not--her right, not against the law, and not necessarily grounds for stealing custody.

Only a problem b/c of who she is and people's disdain for her.

<------not fooled by all of that stuff, so I don't care what she is promoting or how she is promoting it. It is all irrelevant. She wants to make money--she has the right to make it, even if it requires being on the road to do it. She's not the first nor the last divorcee (accent on that first e--don't know how to do it)--whose work takes them from home.

There really is no justifiable argument against it--other than people are ticked b/c "she gets away with it b/c all those people b-e-l-i-e-v-e her". She gets away with it b/c she's not doing anything wrong.

The "employment" aspect of it. Morally, ethically--those are all subjective and sometihng entirely different regarding the actual "content" of what she does. The fact that she is doing it--just a problem b/c she is female and people don't like her.

To me that is a very sad commentary on how judgemental our world is and how much we are still a very patriarchy where the men are not questioned but the women are judged when it comes to "work" and what htey do for a living.

 

[DMRick]

I get what you are saying..but I'm just talking about her working, not what goods she's trying to sell us.

I don't think her being on the road right now makes her a bad mother. She does have lots of help. I get that. I think everyone gets that. But even with all the help, I think it takes a lot of organization to run a household with 8 kids, the help, etc. So while I think she has it better than most people with a bunch of kids, I don't think she is just sitting on her hands, and not being a part of the overall taking care of the kids.

I hadn't heard she wanted her babysitter's job, but not for a minute do I fall for that.

What if what your profession is...what you are selling.....is what a good parent you are? A Supermom. World's busiest mom. You don't see the irony in what she is promoting and working for? That is the issue for many. I think she recently cried that she wanted her babysitter's job. What a load.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I hadn't heard she wanted her babysitter's job, but not for a minute do I fall for that.

I'm going to go on a limb--that she was using hyperbole...that she might enjoy staying home and taking care of the kids if she were getting paid for it....NOT THAT she feels she should be paid just for being a parent....

But the "novelty" of what her sitter does--as I'm sure her sitters ENJOY the caring of the children and doing allthe fun things with them. I would imagine they would have to. Who would work with kids if they didn't enjoy it?

But as I said--the "novelty" part. Kate can't stay home 24/7. I really think--justifiably--that when she had the 6....it was very tough on her. Kate has a drive to work. But caring for her family is a lot of work.

But as many on the DIS can contest--while they love their kids, they are not cut out to be SAHM's. And while Kate did far better than I ever could (meaning--her home even pre-paid-help days and pre-spa days her home seemed rather put together for a family with 8 children, while my home is a wreck with three)--it probably just doesn't fulfill her. THIS IS NOT A BAD THING. Some moms prefer to be working.

And IF IF IF IF IF IF IF I had the talent and the time to spare and it was lucrative, I would much prefer to be in my dream field than in my "pays the bills" field. It doesn't make one a bad person to make that choice, if the opportunity presents itself.

HOW they pursue that opportunity (Kate filming the kids, writing questionable books, giving parenting advice, dancing like crap on DWTS)--well that's on them.

But pursuing the opportunity in and of itself isn't a bad thing.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I'm watching the Joy Behar segment now with Kate. Interesting stuff. Kate claims that her brother and Jodi have made hundreds of thousands of dollars off of telling lies about her and the kids. She claims they (Kevin & Jodi) haven't seen the kids in 2 years yet have all this inside information about things. Her opinion is that Kevin & Jodi feel the money has run out so they're doing this to her family in order to make more.

Also I took note of how she spun the excitement over the Kate+8 specials the kids will do. Apparently they've been missing the plane trips and fun stuff so Kate is happy that they'll be able to do that kind of thing again. Without the show, her kids wouldn't have these opportunities (her words, not mine). Apparently they're planning a trip right now for an upcoming special.

She also spun the whole single working mother thing again. It's interesting that Jon's child support payments of $20,000 aren't mentioned either. Is it because she isn't receiving them or is purposely not mentioning it?

She says she always writes her books for her kids and that moms are taking this latest book of hers as an inspiration to write letters to their own kids. She'd love for people to know that this book is the true her, she said she wrote every word.

I find these interviews fascinating because we get to hear words from Kate herself and not someone's interpretation or gossip.

 

[kidshop]

I'm watching the Joy Behar segment now with Kate. Interesting stuff. Kate claims that her brother and Jodi have made hundreds of thousands of dollars off of telling lies about her and the kids. She claims they (Kevin & Jodi) haven't seen the kids in 2 years yet have all this inside information about things. Her opinion is that Kevin & Jodi feel the money has run out so they're doing this to her family in order to make more.

Also I took note of how she spun the excitement over the Kate+8 specials the kids will do. Apparently they've been missing the plane trips and fun stuff so Kate is happy that they'll be able to do that kind of thing again. Without the show, her kids wouldn't have these opportunities (her words, not mine). Apparently they're planning a trip right now for an upcoming special.

She also spun the whole single working mother thing again. It's interesting that Jon's child support payments of $20,000 aren't mentioned either. Is it because she isn't receiving them or is purposely not mentioning it?

She says she always writes her books for her kids and that moms are taking this latest book of hers as an inspiration to write letters to their own kids. She'd love for people to know that this book is the true her, she said she wrote every word.

I find these interviews fascinating because we get to hear words from Kate herself and not someone's interpretation or gossip.

she's lying, you know that right? jodi and kevin were at their house in Oct '09 with Jon. AND, they have done nothing recently that paid. They were at a hearing on request.

She's getting the support payments.

What lies have Kevin and Jodi told? Were the kids not filmed on the potty? Was the show not scripted? Were there cameras filming in the bedrooms?

Yeah and she flies home right after DWTS to be with her kids, just like she said.

 

[Promomx2]

Maybe Kate doesn't know that Kevin & Jodi saw the kids.

 

[kidshop]

Maybe Kate doesn't know that Kevin & Jodi saw the kids.

Well, if I know and you know, shouldn't she know LOL?

 

[3prettyprincesses]

she's lying, you know that right? jodi and kevin were at their house in Oct '09 with Jon. AND, they have done nothing recently that paid. They were at a hearing on request.

She's getting the support payments.

What lies have Kevin and Jodi told? Were the kids not filmed on the potty? Was the show not scripted? Were there cameras filming in the bedrooms?

Yeah and she flies home right after DWTS to be with her kids, just like she said.

Oh, I do recall that Jon let the kids see Kevin & Jodi this past fall. Which makes it all the stranger for Kate to say that they hadn't seen them in 2 years. You'd think the kids would've mentioned to her, hey mom we saw our aunt, uncle and cousins today, right? Makes me think too that she lied then.

Regarding the support payments, how do we know Jon's been paying? Come to think of it, if he hadn't been I'm sure Kate would've mentioned it in one of her interviews. I wonder how long he's been paying that then? Does the arbitrator preside over child support payments too?

I was thinking over his custody lawsuit tonight. It seems to me that he's angling to get the kids because then Kate will have to pay him child support, right? And my guess is that she's worth waaaaay more $ than he is at this point.

 

[kidshop]

Oh, I do recall that Jon let the kids see Kevin & Jodi this past fall. Which makes it all the stranger for Kate to say that they hadn't seen them in 2 years. You'd think the kids would've mentioned to her, hey mom we saw our aunt, uncle and cousins today, right? Makes me think too that she lied then.

Regarding the support payments, how do we know Jon's been paying? Come to think of it, if he hadn't been I'm sure Kate would've mentioned it in one of her interviews. I wonder how long he's been paying that then? Does the arbitrator preside over child support payments too?

I was thinking over his custody lawsuit tonight. It seems to me that he's angling to get the kids because then Kate will have to pay him child support, right? And my guess is that she's worth waaaaay more $ than he is at this point.

Here's were she says she wants to be the babysitter:

http://www.insideedition.com/news/4317/exclusive-interview-with-kate-gosselin.aspx

I didn't watch but it's written. (Hmm, tears) Oh, how funny! I jsut read the whole thing. The hearing was in PA, not NY, and did she just say her brother should be home with his kids?! And I think we've established no naked potty training occured at Jodi's house. LIAR!

TLC is paying Jon and the support is coming out of that. She's getting it, and you can tell b/c she never outright says she not and has not filed anything. But she want's people to believe he is not paying and so hems and haws. Kind of like what she did about telling Jon it was over in Oct '08. We don't know how long TLC is paying though.

I'm sure whatever Jon is doing is to benefit himself and not the kids.

 

[DMRick]

She's getting the support payments.

This I wondered about. I thought maybe it was going into an escrow account while they go to court. That is done sometimes around here while awaiting a court date. But since she's getting it, I hope she is saving some for the future...I can't imagine she would need all of that plus her share to raise those kids. even with the help needing to be paid.

I assume when K & Jodi visited Jon they saw the kids..did we see pics of them with the kids? I thought we did, but I don't remember. Maybe she means they haven't seen the kids with her, but then if she's saying they haven't seen them, that would not be true if they did.

editted to add, I see what she said..SHE hasn't allowed them to see her kids in two years. But we know that Jon has. So I wouldn't call that a lie Here it is from that interview.
"The truth is, I haven't allowed them to see my kids for two years," said Gosselin."