Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[daughtersrus]

I'll be happy to when it is traced.

However he claimed that he took ZERO!

Thus far she is permitted to use the money for household expenses. Though admittedly--how did she miss 55K.

My only thought is that private school ain't cheap and maybe she forgot she paid that bill.

I'll do that on occasion. Send a check, set up a payment and then go check my account one day and see a bit missing and wonder what the heck happened. Not $55,000 mind you--but I do a double take.

I've had my husband wonder what happened to some money that I moved--and I haven't a clue of what he is talking about. I do have to look at the statements and then can tell you what everything is.

But I'll be happy to call her to the table upon the ruling.

But Jon spent days protesting the allegations and claimed that he had proof that he took nothing.

Whether or not she can account for what she spent the money on, she LIED when she said that Jon was the one that took it out of the account. Kate looked at the statements but still said that Jon took that money. It's probably hard for the Kate can do no wrong crowd to admit but in this case, there's proof that Kate lied when she said that Jon took all of the money from their account.

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

How COULD YOU????????



True enough! I'm constantly amazed.

Very easily, thank you very much.

And I think we have the same daughter. Why they think to keep that stuff I don't know.

But just to make this on topic - I'm glad Jon has to pay back the money and I hope that Kate either comes up with a legitimate excuse for the expenses or puts it back in the account.

 

[redrosesix]

Were these guys in the same courtroom today, because IMO it sounds like Heller is pretty happy with the judge's decision too:
http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b148735_kate_gosselin_banks_big_bucks_jon_loses.html

This article repeats all of the statements by Mark Momjian and Kate that we've seen elsewhere, plus this:
Speaking on behalf of Team Jon was his lawyer, Mark Heller.

"All of the attorneys on both sides worked very hard. We are very pleased with the outcome of the court proceeding and the arbitration session," he said.

"We are very hopeful that there will soon be a resolution," he added, referring to the couple's overall finances.

 

[blissventure]

My girls room didn't stink.

It had trash, yes--but no rancid food, moldy bread or anything of that nature.
It's wrappers, hangers that broke, craft leftovers, crumpled papers (clearly not important b/c they were crumpled--and not put in a "sacred" spot) and other crap.

My kids are happy to find a clean room. Thus far not requiring any therapy for such discoveries.

She didn't toss everything downstairs--mostly linens and a few toys that feasibly belonged in the playroom.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Those who find Kate to be a villain will find wrong in all that she does.

Most parents of 9yo's know what is truly sacred and know what we can get away with tossing out. My children have survived a number of my rounds of cleaning their rooms.

I understand your point.
But, I guess I think the difference is that the kids in question are right in the middle of J&K's way too public and very unpleasant divorce. It has to be extraordinarily painful (and also probably embarrassing) for the children. They are under enough stress as it is. In times of family crisis, taking a slower, kinder approach, with extra tolerance and understanding from both parents would be quite psychologically helpful. The kids certainly didn't select this path, they just have to deal with it.

 

[redrosesix]

However he claimed that he took ZERO!

Actually he never claimed that. He always said the only money he took out that week was $22,500. Then there was a whole lot of talk about how he had never taken out money until this year, blah blah blah. The more he talked the more confusing it was.

The fact remains that the only people who are speaking right now are Kate and her lawyer, in direct violation of the judge's orders, and that they are obviously not going to do as the judge requested and settle it amongst themselves. So what are they not saying? If Jon doesn't respond, does that mean she is telling the truth or that he is complying with the judge's orders?

Furthermore, none of this money issue ever had to be made public. In fact, we would never have known that Kate had gotten herself into trouble with the arbitrator before had she not brought all of this out into the open. Extra reading for their kids when they get older, I guess.

 

[madge]

Did anyone else think is was way wrong when Kate said in last night's episode that she had planned on riding the kids bus for the first week to set down the rules?

not set down the rules .. lay down the law. she used that phrase a couple of times.

and to be fair, maybe it's ok for parents to ride the bus at their school. but if it isn't, I don't know why she thought it would be ok to do that .. and what purpose it would serve ..

 

[madge]

I'm sorry--but I am now at Jon!

Evidently his supposed evidence of his bank statements were inadequate or failed to prove the innocence he has been proclaiming.

All the evidence he claimed to ET or Extra or whomever it was--belonged with the judge and arbitrator.

No way would they have ruled in Kate's favor if he didn't take the money.

Liar liar pants on fire, Mr. Gosselin!

I thought, at some point, Jon said he did take the money .. which is where the whole idea of "what's the big deal .. Kate took money, too?" came from. Did I misunderstand that?

I did see that Kate was asked to provide records to the court. Wonder why she didn't have to provide them today?

 

[daughtersrus]

I did see that Kate was asked to provide records to the court. Wonder why she didn't have to provide them today?

I'm not sure but I think that it's because she didn't admit to taking this money. She said that Jon took $235,000 from their account but apparently after today's meeting, it's coming out that she has to provide documentation for $55,000 of that amount and Jon has to return $180,000. I would guess that if she can't provide the documentation or if it wasn't for her children as she now says, that she'll have to return that money as well.

 

[daughtersrus]

This article is interesting.


Kate Gosselin Banks Big Bucks as Jon Loses First Round in Court

Today 12:52 PM PDT by Marcus Errico and Ken Baker
Jon Gosselin, Kate Gosselin INFdaily.com; Lisa Berg/NBC

Score one for Kate Gosselin.

The blonder half of reality TV's favorite estranged spouses won a major victory during this morning's court showdown on the couple's disputed money matters.

Judge Arthur R. Tilson has ordered Jon Gosselin to return $180,000 of the $235,000 he withdrew from the bank without the missus' permission—a big violation of a previous arbitration ruling.

"Mr. Gosselin must repay this sum on or before Oct. 26," Kate's attorney, Mark Momjian, said in a statement to E! News. "If he fails to do so, he must appear before the court for contempt proceedings.

"The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date."

But Kate might also have to cough up some cash...

In response to Jon's allegations that Kate has not been forthright about her own checkbook—suppposedly appropriating family-earmarked money and hiding proceeds from book sales—she has also been ordered to provide an accounting by the next hearing on Oct. 26.

The decision came following an hourlong trip the to Montgomery County courthouse featuring an oddball cast that included the Jon & Kate principals, a small army of lawyers, an arbitrator, a judge, Kate's omnipresent bodyguard and, monitoring the developments from a nearby outpost, Michael Lohan, showing support for new BFF Jon.

"As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children," Kate said in a statement. "Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues."

Speaking on behalf of Team Jon was his lawyer, Mark Heller.

"All of the attorneys on both sides worked very hard. We are very pleased with the outcome of the court proceeding and the arbitration session," he said.

"We are very hopeful that there will soon be a resolution," he added, referring to the couple's overall finances.

http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b148735_kate_gosselin_banks_big_bucks_jon_lose[/COLOR]s.html


Kate's lawyer is talking to E! News. Could he be being paid by them for the statement?

It also says that not only does Kate have to provide documentation for the $55,000 that she accused Jon of taking, but that she also has to provide information about her checkbook and any money that she may have gotten from other sources including books deals or from the family fund.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Kate's lawyer is talking to E! News. Could he be being paid by them for the statement?

It also says that not only does Kate have to provide documentation for the $55,000 that she accused Jon of taking, but that she also has to provide information about her checkbook and any money that she may have gotten from other sources including books deals or from the family fund.

VERY interesting!

Seems Kate is caught with some flames on her tush as well, I suppose.

It's all getting very confusing. But perhaps the book deals are related to the spousal support claim?

 

[KristiKelly]

I just went thru DD's room today and had a big bag of trash. Some of it she may have wanted to keep BUT I have told her for 1-1/2 weeks to clean her room or I was going to do it (and she knows what that means). So, if it was in the way, it got thrown away. If she gets upset then she'll clean her room the next time I tell her to.

Last year I told my son over and over to take his shoes to his room, he continued to leave them in the middle of the kitchen floor. I started collecting every pair of shoes when left out and putting them up (hiding them) until he had nothing left to wear but Crocs (he hates Crocs now), that got his attention when he thought I was going to make him wear those to school - in 6th grade.

 

[daughtersrus]

VERY interesting!

Seems Kate is caught with some flames on her tush as well, I suppose.

It's all getting very confusing. But perhaps the book deals are related to the spousal support claim?

Depending on how the contract was written and the divorce laws in PA, Jon may very well be entitled to some of that money. That may be why someone that claims that she won today didn't look very happy.

 

[Debbru]

Long time lurker of this thread, never posted.

I seem to be interpreting something different than some of you. According to the eonline story, Jon did withdraw 235,000 but only has to repay 180,000 since the difference of 55,000 went to Kate for household & children's expenses. But most of you are reading this as if Kate took the 55,000 and must account for it. Am I not reading this right?

 

[hbkfan637]

Long time lurker of this thread, never posted.

I seem to be interpreting something different than some of you. According to the eonline story, Jon did withdraw 235,000 but only has to repay 180,000 since the difference of 55,000 went to Kate for household & children's expenses. But most of you are reading this as if Kate took the 55,000 and must account for it. Am I not reading this right?

After reading the E! article, I have the same interpretation. I think in the court documents Jon admitted to taking $235,000 so the $55,000 Kate took could be before that.

 

[OhMari]

The $177,000 was the total of what he said he withdrew in the past year, actually since January. Apparently $118,000 of that was withdrawn in May.

Me and my dh were watching the show last nite, and he saw Jon's BMW. I originally thought he had a $40,000 BMW, but my dh said, "are you kidding me?", he has the $72,000 Bmer and then he said, "what a bozo, why would you get a 2-door car with kids, at least get the 4 door, so your kids don't have to crawl behind the seats. So if Jon bought the BMW for $72,000, good luck trying to sell that car. But, maybe he leased it, and he could turn it back in with a huge penality.

Long time lurker of this thread, never posted.

I seem to be interpreting something different than some of you. According to the eonline story, Jon did withdraw 235,000 but only has to repay 180,000 since the difference of 55,000 went to Kate for household & children's expenses. But most of you are reading this as if Kate took the 55,000 and must account for it. Am I not reading this right?

Welcome to thread.
I am confused as you. I think you have it right.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

After reading the E! article, I have the same interpretation. I think in the court documents Jon admitted to taking $235,000 so the $55,000 Kate took could be before that.

That's kind of what I thought--it is rather confusing.

But since I was accused of being in the "Kate can do no wrong" camp--I figured I read it wrong.

 

[kidshop]

That's kind of what I thought--it is rather confusing.

But since I was accused of being in the "Kate can do no wrong" camp--I figured I read it wrong.

is this the article? ;

http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/13/jon-kate-gosselin-arbitrator-money-return-contempt-court/#

on Gosselin Ordered to Return $180,000
Posted Oct 13th 2009 2:02PM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned Jon Gosselin has been ordered to return $180,000 in marital funds, which were removed in violation of an arbitrator's order.

According to Kate's lawyer, Mark Momjian, "The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date."

Jon is required to repay the loot by October 26 -- the next hearing -- or appear before the judge for a contempt proceeding.

The judge also ordered Kate to provide an accounting of past expenses -- also due by Oct. 26.

Kate says, "As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the Court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children. Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues."

It says the 55,000 was used by Kate. Are you saying Jon took it out and then gave it back to her to use as household expenses?

 

[WaltD4Me]

Me and my dh were watching the show last nite, and he saw Jon's BMW. I originally thought he had a $40,000 BMW, but my dh said, "are you kidding me?", he has the $72,000 Bmer and then he said, "what a bozo, why would you get a 2-door car with kids, at least get the 4 door, so your kids don't have to crawl behind the seats. So if Jon bought the BMW for $72,000, good luck trying to sell that car. But, maybe he leased it, and he could turn it back in with a huge penality.


Welcome to thread.
I am confused as you. I think you have it right.

Jon has a BMW and a Mercedes, has said a couple times that the Mercedes is leased, but I've never heard say that about the BMW.

 

[Debbru]

After reading the E! article, I have the same interpretation. I think in the court documents Jon admitted to taking $235,000 so the $55,000 Kate took could be before that.

But I'm not really reading it as Kate "took" anything. My interpretation is that he withdrew 235,000 but only has to repay 180,000 because he gave 55,000 (of the 235,000) to Kate for expenses.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

But I'm not really reading it as Kate "took" anything. My interpretation is that he withdrew 235,000 but only has to repay 180,000 because he gave 55,000 (of the 235,000) to Kate for expenses.

IF that's the case--perhaps he wanted more control of the money.


As I said--until they disclose the $55K, we really don't know what this means.