Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[WaltD4Me]

Forgive me, since I've never tweeted, but I thought you were limited to 140 characters? Even if the first one about his morsels )) is counted as a separate tweet, that last one seems really long.

You can tweet longer than 140 characters, it's called being "Twebose" and whoever is reading your Tweet has to click a link to get the full version.

 

[madge]

Having said all this, if they both agreed to let the kids stop filming, I'm sure they would find a way to make it work. The real problem is that Kate doesn't want the show to stop so why would she consider any other alternative to the lifestyle she has now?

I agree.

Does Kate want to simply "make it work"? No she doesn't. She wants the lifestyle she's achieved as a result of the show, and there's nothing wrong with that. And we don't know what Kate has or hasn't considered doing to continue making money. I think it's safe to say she's got most of her eggs in a basket marked TLC.

Here's the thing ... ask any of the thousands of people in this country whose jobs have been eliminated or downsized if they wanted to cut back their lifestyles. The realest reality for the Gosselins may be that they have to make changes, whether they want to or not.

 

[mookie]

I thought Natalie Morales did a GREAT job. She really called her out on some stuff. Especially when Kate was talking about the magazines in the grocery store...she kept saying she "turns them around" so the kids don't see. When NM said "But it's YOU that made that happen. YOU chose to play out in the media and put yourself on those covers"....classic!

Also, I couldn't believe that Kate actually said that stopping all of this and living life as a "normal person" wouldnt' stop the paparazzi. She said regarding the mag covers that they would still be writing even after she left the spotlight about "why she left." Sure, that might last for a month or so, but isn't that better than not quitting at all, and to keep your kids enduring all of this? Seriously! You aren't THAT important honey...get over it. Paps have plenty to write about other celebrities. But since she chooses to stay in front of the cameras, they continue to eat that family alive.

 

[madge]

Also, I couldn't believe that Kate actually said that stopping all of this and living life as a "normal person" wouldnt' stop the paparazzi. She said regarding the mag covers that they would still be writing even after she left the spotlight about "why she left." Sure, that might last for a month or so, but isn't that better than not quitting at all, and to keep your kids enduring all of this? Seriously! You aren't THAT important honey...get over it. Paps have plenty to write about other celebrities. But since she chooses to stay in front of the cameras, they continue to eat that family alive.

I wonder why Kate thinks the paps won't go away?

at the bolded part.

 

[purplegirl247]

You can tweet longer than 140 characters, it's called being "Twebose" and whoever is reading your Tweet has to click a link to get the full version.

The things I learn on the Dis!
Thank you!

 

[barkley]

GOSSELIN KIDS AND HEALTH INSURANCE-

just for the record, and for what seems to be a constant concern re. what kind of work either parent could do and provide health insurance for all those kids-

the family lives in pennsylvania which has the 'cover all kids' program so that any and every child whose parent does not have insurance for them can get it free or for very reduced rates.

at this point with the income the gosselins make the most they would pay for their kid's insurance is $161 per month each, if their income went down they could get it for as little as $40 per month each (and that's still with income well above the usual rn salary) or free.

there is no worry that those kids go without healthcare or insurance to provide for it-now or in the forseeable future.

 

[DMRick]

at this point with the income the gosselins make the most they would pay for their kid's insurance is $161 per month each, if their income went down they could get it for as little as $40 per month each (and that's still with income well above the usual rn salary) or free.

$320 a month or almost $1300 a month at the higher rate, (which I guess would be part of their $15,000 a month in bills). Maybe they would qualify for the free..would that then be like medicaid?

 

[Tikitoi]

But for Carlos Diaz to say, on Issues that the only way Jon can support his 8 kids is by way of a tv show is such a crock. Shows how far he is out in left field.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I agree.

Does Kate want to simply "make it work"? No she doesn't. She wants the lifestyle she's achieved as a result of the show, and there's nothing wrong with that. And we don't know what Kate has or hasn't considered doing to continue making money. I think it's safe to say she's got most of her eggs in a basket marked TLC.

Here's the thing ... ask any of the thousands of people in this country whose jobs have been eliminated or downsized if they wanted to cut back their lifestyles. The realest reality for the Gosselins may be that they have to make changes, whether they want to or not.

We have to trim our lifestyle--it is easier said than done to make it work.

As it stands--they have expenses now...and while it is easy to say "sell a house"--it isn't cut and dried and I rather wish folks would stop pretending that they can cancel this lifestyel tomorrow, start nursing on Thursday and all will be well by Friday.

It isn't that easy.

Yes they might have to make changes--but what folks are suggesting is that she quit exploring a possibly lucrative career (we really can't predict how it will play out) and give it all up and begin nursing tomorrow.

That makes no sense.

You explore all your options available and as much as we think we are privy to all the details, we aren't.

We don't know what's up the pike and we don't know how long they can live on the cash they have already on hand.

Yeah--if my husband had to go work at 7-11, he would. But it would require foreclosure and bankrutpcy and public assistance to make it work and we are only a family of 5, soon to be 6.

It's beginnign to hit a nerve with all the financial expertise we have here that I wonder--are we living in glass houses and don't even know it?

(And my opinon hasn't changed much since before my husband lost his job--it just now has reality splattered all over it.)

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I watched most of the interview this morning...

she says that she can't make ends meet as a nurse ... then she later says she'll do whatever it takes.

what I don't understand, and hope that someone can answer for me... how is it that Kate is a single mom? She isn't. She's a divorced mom, with an involved father... she's not doing this on her own, which is what I think of when I hear the phrase "single mom".

She's still a single mom....

She's a mom...she's single...

Her arrangement is far from a couple wth both parents in the picture at the same time.

And...Jon is a single dad!

A single parent is simply one who doesn't have the full-time support of the other parent. The parenting dynamic changes when you don't have both parents at the same time...regardless of how involved the other parent is.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Jon tweeted this morning....

Got up early this morning took Mady and Cara to the bus, Came home to then hug my other 6 little morsels.

I stand behind Hailey because she is the only person who has spoken the brutal truth about (yes this whole mess of a trainwreck) as it is described. She has gotten the brunt of EVERYONE'S anger and disappointment. Kate even slipped last night and admitted we split up a year ago! Though she claims she "didn't remember" who called it quits.. Hey at least she said "didn't remember" instead of lieing.

6 little morsels???

So if this really Jon's tweet...is he confirming that he is in fact emotionally abusive to Hailey as she publcly announced?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

At $15,000 a month, they may have a lot of money right now, but just like with many other celebs, it will quickly fade, and it will be as if they never had a show and savings.

$15K a month is "only" laughing $180,000 per year.

Depending on what they have done with all of their money...they can "float" for 10 years without a problem.

Now we don't know all that the $15K includes....but dependng on what they did with their money (which really has not been confirmed!)---it can last quite a bit.

I have no idea if that figure includes hair, spa visits, and prada purses though.

 

[madge]

We have to trim our lifestyle--it is easier said than done to make it work.

As it stands--they have expenses now...and while it is easy to say "sell a house"--it isn't cut and dried and I rather wish folks would stop pretending that they can cancel this lifestyel tomorrow, start nursing on Thursday and all will be well by Friday.

It isn't that easy.

Yes they might have to make changes--but what folks are suggesting is that she quit exploring a possibly lucrative career (we really can't predict how it will play out) and give it all up and begin nursing tomorrow.

That makes no sense.

I agree completely. I've had a hard time understanding why people think the house sells tomorrow, and Kate starts a nursing job set aside just for her the following day. Life doesn't work like that. LOL.

You explore all your options available and as much as we think we are privy to all the details, we aren't.

We don't know what's up the pike and we don't know how long they can live on the cash they have already on hand.

exactly. we don't know what Jon and Kate have done and will continue to do with regards to the family finances. I hope those specific financial details remain to be private, as well.

Yeah--if my husband had to go work at 7-11, he would. But it would require foreclosure and bankrutpcy and public assistance to make it work and we are only a family of 5, soon to be 6.

It's beginnign to hit a nerve with all the financial expertise we have here that I wonder--are we living in glass houses and don't even know it?

(And my opinon hasn't changed much since before my husband lost his job--it just now has reality splattered all over it.)

I think it's just easier, sometimes, to manage someone else's financial situation than it is to manage your own. I've spent enough time on the budget board to learn that lesson. LOL.

 

[madge]

She's still a single mom....

She's a mom...she's single...

Her arrangement is far from a couple wth both parents in the picture at the same time.

And...Jon is a single dad!

A single parent is simply one who doesn't have the full-time support of the other parent. The parenting dynamic changes when you don't have both parents at the same time...regardless of how involved the other parent is.

that makes total sense. thanks!

 

[DMRick]

I doubt they can float for 10 years. As has been said, we have no idea what their expenses have been, how much went into savings for the kids, what two houses/taxes/utilities, babysitters, cars, groceries, lawyers, etc. have cost, along with two apartments. I've watched many a celebritity fall down with a lot more money (Michael Jackson comes to mind, and he made tons more than this family). Once the big bucks stop coming in, it goes out a lot faster than it came in. I have no idea if Jon is bringing in any money at all right now. Hopefully Kate was a saver.

$15K a month is "only" laughing $180,000 per year.

Depending on what they have done with all of their money...they can "float" for 10 years without a problem.

Now we don't know all that the $15K includes....but dependng on what they did with their money (which really has not been confirmed!)---it can last quite a bit.

I have no idea if that figure includes hair, spa visits, and prada purses though.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I doubt they can float for 10 years. As has been said, we have no idea what their expenses have been, how much went into savings for the kids, what two houses/taxes/utilities, babysitters, cars, groceries, lawyers, etc. have cost, along with two apartments. I've watched many a celebritity fall down with a lot more money (Michael Jackson comes to mind, and he made tons more than this family). Once the big bucks stop coming in, it goes out a lot faster than it came in. I have no idea if Jon is bringing in any money at all right now. Hopefully Kate was a saver.

Oh, I was just tossing that out there--it isn't impossible. It's "only" $1.8 .

The point is--it isn't lke they will be broke in the next year.

They could--but we just don't know!

Also--it depends greatly on the financial advice they are receiving.

 

[OhMari]

I agree.

Does Kate want to simply "make it work"? No she doesn't. She wants the lifestyle she's achieved as a result of the show, and there's nothing wrong with that. And we don't know what Kate has or hasn't considered doing to continue making money. I think it's safe to say she's got most of her eggs in a basket marked TLC.

Here's the thing ... ask any of the thousands of people in this country whose jobs have been eliminated or downsized if they wanted to cut back their lifestyles. The realest reality for the Gosselins may be that they have to make changes, whether they want to or not.

Exactly, I know 3 moms that got let go at work, because they have been there 20-30 years and they are basically making too much money. And Kate may have something in the works with TLC, but how long is that going to last. Turn on the Hallmark Channel and you will see lots of older actor and actresses that want to still be in tv, or in a movie. This is about the only thing they can get.

I forgot that Kate made the comment last nite at the end of the interview,
something about her kids getting or handed their lives on a golden platter.
That comment made me cringe.

 

[DreaGirl]

I forgot that Kate made the comment last nite at the end of the interview, something about her kids getting or handed their lives on a golden platter. That comment made me cringe.

Me too. She is just feeding into the "Me" generation of kids that think they deserve everything without work, time, or effort.

 

[DMRick]

I forgot that Kate made the comment last nite at the end of the interview,
something about her kids getting or handed their lives on a golden platter.
That comment made me cringe.

I heard that, and thought, oh oh..that will be on the Dis! (did she say they needed to have it handed to them, or they deserve it..big difference one from the other?). I took it to mean that they mean so much to her, they deserve everything, or she wants the best for them. But I knew the minute she said it, that no matter how she meant it, it wasn't going to be good for her LOL.

My children are all grown up, all went to college (we paid half, they paid half), and are making it on their own, without help from their dad and I. And yet I still want the best for them. They are great kids and deserve the best (however, I don't happen to mean that monetarily).

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Just a brief interruption...b/c some things are just MORE important than Jon and KAte.....

like Harry....

Harry Connick, Jr. That slice of hunkalicious from New Orleans...

That is presently singing "It Had to be You" on my Harry Connick Cd (When Harry Met Sally edition).....


And it is presently being ruined by my visiting Father who has it in his head that he can sing.

The inhumanity of it all!


Okay--carry on. But there are just more things importan than what Jon and KAte are ruining....like my Harry Connick CD. How can I swoon over that man now that my *dad* has tainted it.