Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[3prettyprincesses]

I believe that they believe that this is not harmful to the kids, and is an oportunity for them to have a nice home, a paid for college education, and a good financial start in life, as well as more time with mom and dad, than they would have if they both worked everyday to support them. Until Mady's book come out, I'll have to hold judgement to see if they are right or wrong.

I agree. And if Mady does write a book (or any of the Gosselin kids for that matter) I will read it and re-think my views!

Wow, judge much? I can't get over how much you guys really intensely dislike Kate. You are sure by the body language that she is having an affair, you can tell by her child's eyes how much the paps bother her, and even though the other family has stated they have help, because it's not a reality show, you feel they are supporting their children all on their own, unlike Kate and Jon , who you give zero credit to for what sweet kids they have and how hard they have worked (J & K), you assume she doesn't want custody of her children, but just wants to control Jon, and because she talked to the father of her children in his car you assume it was all for show.

I've been on a lot of boards, and I'm on three for J & K, but this one is so intense with the dislike, I just can't believe it. I'm glad you guys haven't found anything to judge me on. There is absolutely nothing Kate could ever do that would please you.

The fun of this board has sure changed in the last month or so...especially since some who have enjoyed the show have moved on and away from this thread . It's just becoming so much about judging, and intesne dislike..and very little of the judging is ever good. What happened to just reporting on what is going on? Why so very much judging and assuming? As I've said before, I truly don't understand why some of you follow this and look at the pictures and the rag mags, etc. If I hated something as much as some hate this show and these people, I would never want to keep up with them.

It does seem a bit judgemental lately and I'm always surprised by the strength of emotion J&K+8 brings out. I too feel that Kate can do nothing right in some people's eyes. (I'm not saying she doesn't make any mistakes.) Why doesn't she smile but then when she does smile it must be just because the paps are there. And so on. I guess I realize that I am not a perfect parent and have made my share of mistakes so I feel J&K deserve some understanding. How many of us have felt embarassed or ashamed at the way we parented at times? Why do we expect J&K to be perfect? I still don't know that being on the show is harming them. Those kids are adorable, sweet and loved by both parents, at least that's what I've seen. Even in spite of Jon's extracurricular activites!

DMRick, do you really think it is good for the family to be doing the show now? The money they make is a big benefit, obviously, but do you see any negatives for the kids?

Well that question could equally apply to a husband (say Jon) who has to work 60+ hours a week to support his family of 10. He wouldn't be home much and that can be seen as a negative as well. Then a wife (say Kate) would be home with the kids all day until probably past bedtime with no relief from her husband. That would cause stress as well. I believe there would be negatives for J&K if they chose to work instead of the show. Money would be very tight, time spent with the kids wouldn't be often.

And if Kate did smile, I bet some one will say that she's smiling because she's enjoying the attention. I'm so glad I'm not Kate.. My skin is not thick enough.. I would probably start feeling so self conscious and think I'm somehow breathing wrong because I can never do anything right.

No kidding! I couldn't handle the criticism Kate gets. Apparently Kate can't win no matter what she does.

But Jon & Kate chose this life for their kids. Like numerous articles have said this is part of the game (paparazzi, fans). They could of handled this 1st day of school so differently, but, with Kate doing all she can to polish her image and save "the show" she is a media hound. Her body language told the story. The way she strutted across the parking lot (they probably could of walked from home and been closer to the bus) and then lined them up in front of the bus--all the while 6 pairs of terrified eyes not knowing where to look or if they should talk! Anyone who defends this circus does not have the best interest of the kids in mind.

Wow. I don't agree with this statement. So only people who are opposed to the show have the kids' best interest in mind? I don't believe that. I also didn't see 6 pairs of terrified eyes either. Yes, J&K have chosen this life for their kids and their kids are well provided for. Would that have been the case if they were both working and struggling to put food on the table? We know Jon isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to employment. Would it be fair to say they'd be better off poor, struggling? Wouldn't that cause stress too? My parents struggled with money and had many fights (nasty ones) over how to pay for heat for the winter or groceries for the week. Not the nicest family environment either.

omg.....I went and got a job and I'm SOOO far out of the loop now!! I have no idea what is going on in J&K world!

Hey! Welcome back! Good luck with reading all the pages you've missed too. You haven't missed too much...Kate can't do anything right and Jon keeps acting like a 15 year old! The twins went off to school and then the tups went off the day after. People saw different things regarding this too. Where is that bus video??

I, for one will absolutely judge people who I believe are exploiting their kids! These people are not my neighbors, they put themselves on TV and in magazines EVERY WEEK. Have you ever heard of the 'other family' before? I haven't! They are not getting the same level of help as J&K did. How can you even compare that!?

If Kate took her kids off TV and began to shield them from paparazzi even a little bit, THAT would please me and I would never say another word about her. She could get a job on the View for all I care, just no more filming of the kids. (unless they of course become paid actors).

How do you know the kids aren't being paid? Kate is putting money aside for them too. How do you know that the kids aren't getting any money? Again, exploitation is a strong word and of course you're entitled to use it but I have to disagree. Perhaps Kate is working towards a talk show gig and we just don't know the details. She and Jon are locked into a contract with TLC but we have no idea what she may be trying to arrange on the side.

Well, hopefully the paps will not greet them at the busstop every morning. Hopefully, it was a first day of school thing and they will be left alone.

I could not get the tups school video to work so I can say whether she was strutting or walking, lol. I think it is a matter of if you like her OK, she was walking. If you can't stand her, she was strutting. lol And that's the way everything is in Kateworld.

Very true. Kateworld is truly a peculiar place! Great assessment!

 

[DMRick]

In spite of not agreeing with you on all points, I thought it was a very nice letter and I understand what you are saying. I do wish they would not talk publicly about each other (let the rag mags do it for them), on that we can agree.
Thank you!

You know, I have followed this thread for a long time, and I have always been sad by the way things have turned out. I have never hated any of them or any of that, I have just disapproved of the things they have done.

With that said, I will say that I have started to actually hate them and I don't like that. I am not that kind of person. It really started when Kate did the interview on the Today show and started talking about the things the kids were saying and now she is talking about Jon. Her kids will one day see these interviews and they will hear what she is saying about him.

I guess I don't hold Jon to as high a standard as I do Kate and maybe that is because I am a mom and I identify with the mom role. Jon is acting like a Jerk and yes it is going to effect his kids but Kate is the mother and she should be protecting them and I just don't see her doing that. It has made me really not like her, it has actually turned into disgust for her. And I can honstly say I have never felt that way about someone on tv. I guess the difference is, she is a mom and in my opinion she is not protecting her children from all the stuff that is going on. When parents divorce, the kids do not need to know all of the details and all of the drama, they should just know that both their parents love them no matter what and that should be it. You can't tell me that Maddy and Cara are not hearing about this at school, I don't care where they are going. I went to a small private school my whole life and let me tell you, we knew everyone's business, I could not have imagined if it had been on tv what all the talk would have been.

I have had to step away everyonce in a while from this board because of the anger that it has brought me. I don't like it, especially for people I don't know. And it bothers me when people defend her. I just can't understand. I don't think everything she does is wrong. I don't care how she dresses or her silly hair. None of that bothers me, what gets me is her "I will not lay down and die' "I can not go back only forward" junk that keeps coming out of her mouth. She needs to realize this is not about just her. What about those kids. do they get to decide if they want to move forward with the show.

Once again this is just the way I feel and I know that not everyone agrees with me and that is fine, that is what makes the world go around.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

You know, I have followed this thread for a long time, and I have always been sad by the way things have turned out. I have never hated any of them or any of that, I have just disapproved of the things they have done.

With that said, I will say that I have started to actually hate them and I don't like that. I am not that kind of person. It really started when Kate did the interview on the Today show and started talking about the things the kids were saying and now she is talking about Jon. Her kids will one day see these interviews and they will hear what she is saying about him.

I guess I don't hold Jon to as high a standard as I do Kate and maybe that is because I am a mom and I identify with the mom role. Jon is acting like a Jerk and yes it is going to effect his kids but Kate is the mother and she should be protecting them and I just don't see her doing that. It has made me really not like her, it has actually turned into disgust for her. And I can honstly say I have never felt that way about someone on tv. I guess the difference is, she is a mom and in my opinion she is not protecting her children from all the stuff that is going on. When parents divorce, the kids do not need to know all of the details and all of the drama, they should just know that both their parents love them no matter what and that should be it. You can't tell me that Maddy and Cara are not hearing about this at school, I don't care where they are going. I went to a small private school my whole life and let me tell you, we knew everyone's business, I could not have imagined if it had been on tv what all the talk would have been.

I have had to step away everyonce in a while from this board because of the anger that it has brought me. I don't like it, especially for people I don't know. And it bothers me when people defend her. I just can't understand. I don't think everything she does is wrong. I don't care how she dresses or her silly hair. None of that bothers me, what gets me is her "I will not lay down and die' "I can not go back only forward" junk that keeps coming out of her mouth. She needs to realize this is not about just her. What about those kids. do they get to decide if they want to move forward with the show.

Once again this is just the way I feel and I know that not everyone agrees with me and that is fine, that is what makes the world go around.

In spite of not agreeing with you on all points, I thought it was a very nice letter and I understand what you are saying. I do wish they would not talk publicly about each other (let the rag mags do it for them), on that we can agree.
Thank you!

Doris, you took the words out of my mouth!

jpaxton, I appreciate your honest, straight-forward post. While I don't agree with everything you said, I can understand too where you're coming from. Of course it would be better if J&K kept their yappers shut. However, I'm sure the temptation is too great for them! Imagine going through a messy divorce, believing that you were the one wronged and having the media at your fingertips. I don't believe it's helpful to the kids to have their parents doing interviews about the divorce but perhaps Kate feels she needs to defend her position so the kids will know when they're older and perhaps Jon feels the exact same way. Who knows. I do wish they'd stop granting interviews though.

 

[Debbie]

...I hardly think Kate has ever come out on the top. It doesn't matter what she does..she's always in the wrong. She's wrong for looking good and getting her hair/nails done, she's wrong for going ahead with her and the kids show, she's wrong for not telling us why she filed for divorce, she's wrong for telling us why she is upset with Jon and apparently she's even wrong for getting on the bus even though we have no idea why she did LOL.

Unless we are in her shoes, none of us (myself included) know how we would act, or what we would do. I have no idea what hurt either of them have gone through, I have no idea how either of them treated each other off camera, and I would like to think they would both do what is best for those kids. I hope there is more to Jon's behavior than what we get to see.

Exactly, Doris.

ITA! I enjoy this thread far more than I ever would a TV show because of the discussion -- this is the only place we could have 4 pages of discussion re taking a school bus, which is interesting for me to read because my DD walks to school. Ditto for the rules re kids starting school -- I guess until you get into a discussion about some topics, you'd assume the rules are pretty much the same everywhere (but they really are very different)

I often have people disagree with my opinions, especially since I'm not a Kate-defender. But other people's responses make me think about my own more. They may not sway me to their side, but it does give me pause to reconsider my own views. And since we are discussing a show about a family (although not a normal family) I think it's great for us parents to have a place to discuss parenting issues. And anytime we can sit back and consider our own behaviour towards our kids, that's a good thing.

Sooo...back to the custody battle. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

redrosesix, I, too, have thought and rethought my opinions of Jon and Kate as a result of this thread. I am grateful for the differing views, and for the links that are often posted.

I'm here because I do like talking about the kids, and what all they are doing on the show and off. I like when people post facts, and I also enjoy all the different places they post to see what is going on off the show.

I may soon be another one that doesn't post here. The hate makes me very uncomfortable. This didn't use to have the tone and hate it does now, which is really just from a few people. There are still people on this thread who want the show to continue but, there are also people on this thread who don't, but they don't show such hatred for J & K...they discuss what has happened, and what they feel about this and that, and give their opnion. They don't state their opinion as facts.

It doesn't have to be all flowers and rainbows..it never has been. But the hatred is really hard to take all the time, and it makes me feel bad that so many have left, or just won't post anymore because of it.

I hope that it doesn't get to that point, Doris. I find that I don't have to post my thoughts since you do it so eloquently. Maybe, as one with a touch of grey in my hair, I can look at 2 parents doing the best that they can at that moment (well, Jon's escapades aside-he still insists that it is not a midlife crisis, right?) I see parents that were overwhelmed,did what they thought would provide for their family, and, despite all of our advice, can't see what needs to be done. In my life, I have learned to never say "never" and not to judge. You said it above.

Unless we are in her shoes, none of us (myself included) know how we would act, or what we would do.

 

[madge]

On another thread it was said that they coldn't take the bus while in pre-k..not until Kindergarten. I thought she said the bus is paid for by the public school system and they don't transport until Kindergarten.

so, I guess jr. kindergarten is considered part of kindergarten?

we don't have jr. kindergarten here, so I have no frame of reference at all with that. most of the preschools here have 3 & 4 year old preschool, and pre-K for 5 year olds, and that is the structure in the 2 private schools we have.

 

[jpaxton1118]

In spite of not agreeing with you on all points, I thought it was a very nice letter and I understand what you are saying. I do wish they would not talk publicly about each other (let the rag mags do it for them), on that we can agree.
Thank you!

Thank you for your nice post. I was really hoping that you would understand what I was trying to say. I know that I have posted on here before and it just does not come out right and I really wanted it to this time. The one thing I have liked about this thread is that we all can disagree but we can also find new and different points from others. I have always like to hear what others thoughts are on the subject and I have actually learned to like Kate somewhat because of the things I have heard people say, it has given me a new thought instead of just jumping to a negative thought whenever she does something. I really respect everyone's opinion on here and i hope that we can keep it going with the respect it started with.

 

[DMRick]

Maybe, as one with a touch of grey in my hair, I can look at 2 parents doing the best that they can at that moment (well, Jon's escapades aside-he still insists that it is not a midlife crisis, right?) I see parents that were overwhelmed,did what they thought would provide for their family, and, despite all of our advice, can't see what needs to be done. In my life, I have learned to never say "never" and not to judge. You said it above.

Maybe that's why I see things differently..it's that gray. Oh, wait, there is not one gray hair on my head..I pay well enough to make sure of that. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's all gray, but I don't want to find out LOL! I agree 100% with what you wrote above. Thanks for putting it perfectly!

 

[mousey]

I agree. And if Mady does write a book (or any of the Gosselin kids for that matter) I will read it and re-think my views!















Wow. I don't agree with this statement. So only people who are opposed to the show have the kids' best interest in mind? I don't believe that. I also didn't see 6 pairs of terrified eyes either. Yes, J&K have chosen this life for their kids and their kids are well provided for. Would that have been the case if they were both working and struggling to put food on the table? We know Jon isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to employment. Would it be fair to say they'd be better off poor, struggling? Wouldn't that cause stress too? My parents struggled with money and had many fights (nasty ones) over how to pay for heat for the winter or groceries for the week. Not the nicest family environment either.

You don't have to agree with me on this statement. IMO, I saw 6 sets of terrified eyes that didn't know what was happening at the bus stop. Once again, IMO. Are these kids well provided for. Mommy is out running all over the country promoting her books and tv show. Daddy is dating any girl under the age of 23 in the PA/NY area. So other large families that struggle to put food on the table are wrong. Should everyone have a reality show so they can get free trips and makeovers, etc.....?? Like I said, nobody forced them to air their dirty laundry on national tv. IMO, they signed up for this. In your opinion you feel sorry for them because they are trying to provide for a large family and they should get help. That's why we are entitled to our opinions! I know smaller families that are struggling too!
Other families with tups survive without a reality show so why are J & K so special? You don't have to agree with me--that's why this is a discussion board.

 

[DMRick]

Mommy is out running all over the country promoting her books and tv show. Daddy is dating any girl under the age of 23 in the PA/NY area. So other large families that struggle to put food on the table are wrong. .

No. mommy isn't running all over promoting her book. Hasn't in months actually. She does appear to be out promoting her show and herself, but even that seems limited, and I assume (yes, I know what they say about people who assume) the kids are with dad while she is doing that. Even if she was out promoting a book, that generally comes with the territory of writing a book and is part of the contract. Most book writers do the same thing.

No one said that other large families that struggle to put food on the table are wrong (I wish my parents had found a way to not struggle, regular big meals every day would have been nice). I don't know where that came from. This family doesn't happen to have to struggle to put food on the table, they struggled to come up with a way to be financially set (or at least a nice foot in the door).

 

[Disneynut5]

All of the kids now attend a private school, so the bus is not paid for with tax dollars. It looks like a public school bus but it is privately owned by their school.

 

[redrosesix]

You don't have to agree with me on this statement. IMO, I saw 6 sets of terrified eyes that didn't know what was happening at the bus stop. Once again, IMO. Are these kids well provided for. Mommy is out running all over the country promoting her books and tv show. Daddy is dating any girl under the age of 23 in the PA/NY area. So other large families that struggle to put food on the table are wrong. Should everyone have a reality show so they can get free trips and makeovers, etc.....?? Like I said, nobody forced them to air their dirty laundry on national tv. IMO, they signed up for this. In your opinion you feel sorry for them because they are trying to provide for a large family and they should get help. That's why we are entitled to our opinions! I know smaller families that are struggling too!
Other families with tups survive without a reality show so why are J & K so special? You don't have to agree with me--that's why this is a discussion board.

JMHO, but I don't think the first day of school should be like this for any kid, including the other kids that the Gosselins are going to school with.

IMO, Jon and Kate (moreso Kate) are choosing to be celebrities, not just people on a TV show -- I don't see other reality TV families doing a media blitz. I just don't know why they seem to get so much press compared to many actors, etc who are also followed by the paparazzi and the press. Does doing an article in People or an interview on the Today show invite the paparazzi to follow you? -- apparently so, since they are often asking questions about things that first appeared in those interviews.

So, maybe the dividing lines on this thread have something to do with whether you see them as a very large family who has to do what is necessary to survive, or as two parents courting the media (and posters wondering what effect this will have on the kids) I have to honestly say that I fall into the second camp. A lot of the current issues re Jon and Kate go beyond the reality TV show, their children, parenting and household issues, and fall somewhere out there in realm of fame and fortune, which is a concept I've never been able to grasp (like why Zsa Zsa Gabor was famous at all )

 

[3prettyprincesses]

You don't have to agree with me on this statement. IMO, I saw 6 sets of terrified eyes that didn't know what was happening at the bus stop. Once again, IMO. Are these kids well provided for. Mommy is out running all over the country promoting her books and tv show. Daddy is dating any girl under the age of 23 in the PA/NY area. So other large families that struggle to put food on the table are wrong. Should everyone have a reality show so they can get free trips and makeovers, etc.....?? Like I said, nobody forced them to air their dirty laundry on national tv. IMO, they signed up for this. In your opinion you feel sorry for them because they are trying to provide for a large family and they should get help. That's why we are entitled to our opinions! I know smaller families that are struggling too!
Other families with tups survive without a reality show so why are J & K so special? You don't have to agree with me--that's why this is a discussion board.

I know it's a discussion board. That's why I'm discussing! Seriously though, I realize we don't agree. You certainly don't have to believe what I do regarding J&K and the same goes for me. I understand that.

I most definitely did not say that families who struggle to put food on the table are wrong. Nope, I don't believe that. My point was that J&K had a rather unconventional family...twins and then sextuplets. Most large families don't start that way. It begins with one baby and then another and so on. Perhaps J&K panicked and grabbed at this opportunity because for them, it seemed the most practical means for providing. I too know large wonderful families, some are struggling some are not. Every family is different but in J&K's situation they had 8 kids under the age of 4. That's a large responsibility and an enormous load to provide for. Most large families I know for example, pass down clothes. How would that have worked with the tups? It wouldn't. Things like that make it a unique situation. It's not a course I'd have chosen for my family but I have a hard time saying that J&K are wrong for choosing it for theirs.

I guess the reason I responded to your post in the first place was that your statement that 'anyone who defends this circus does not have the best interest of the kids in mind' rubbed me the wrong way. I don't feel like that at all. I do care about what happens to the Gosselin kids and yes I watch the show.

 

[DMRick]

All of the kids now attend a private school, so the bus is not paid for with tax dollars. It looks like a public school bus but it is privately owned by their school.

Oh, OK. I didn't realize it was different in their area. In our area, all the private school kids are taken to school in the buses the public school uses. Our school taxes pay to bus the private school kids (just like they would have to pay to bus them to public school, if they went there). Our private schools could never afford all the buses they would need, since the kids live all over and not in the actual school district of the school. The private small high school has about 20-25 buses bringing kids in from all over the county.

 

[DMRick]

I just don't know why they seem to get so much press compared to many actors, etc who are also followed by the paparazzi and the press.

They are getting so much press because mags with them on the cover are selling. And because jared gets so many hits, and are able to get their advertisers to pay more for ads when the G's pictures go up, they pay good money for the pictures. We, those of us on this board and boards like it are why they have so much press. If we like them or not, we are following their lives, looking at their pictures, talking about them, and keeping the show going. That's why so many paps want to take their pictures. They get paid if it's a picture we will look at.

Brit on a cover won't make me even pick it up. Brit in a bikini on jared wn't make me even click on the url. But J & K? I'm there.

 

[mousey]

No. mommy isn't running all over promoting her book. Hasn't in months actually. She does appear to be out promoting her show and herself, but even that seems limited, and I assume (yes, I know what they say about people who assume) the kids are with dad while she is doing that. Even if she was out promoting a book, that generally comes with the territory of writing a book and is part of the contract. Most book writers do the same thing.

No one said that other large families that struggle to put food on the table are wrong (I wish my parents had found a way to not struggle, regular big meals every day would have been nice). I don't know where that came from. This family doesn't happen to have to struggle to put food on the table, they struggled to come up with a way to be financially set (or at least a nice foot in the door).

This is exactly why everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Even though several articles I have read state that Kate is out promoting her books and show, you claim I'm wrong. Do you have Kate's personal schedule/agenda? Do you know her every move? Please, I'm allowed to post what I have read or heard just like you. I'm sorry if you don't agree with me but it is a discussion board. There are a lot of things you write that I cringe at reading, but, its your opinion.

 

[madge]

So, maybe the dividing lines on this thread have something to do with whether you see them as a very large family who has to do what is necessary to survive, or as two parents courting the media (and posters wondering what effect this will have on the kids) I have to honestly say that I fall into the second camp. A lot of the current issues re Jon and Kate go beyond the reality TV show, their children, parenting and household issues, and fall somewhere out there in realm of fame and fortune, which is a concept I've never been able to grasp (like why Zsa Zsa Gabor was famous at all )

well said, I agree.

and really, it isn't just this thread. the show has progressed in this same way .. the early shows, it was so much more about the family, the parenting, and how they got through a day. How long has it been since they showed the kids going to time out or how they get out the door looking as cute as they do? Now it's grand adventures, million dollar homes, and a lifestyle most will never have.

 

[redrosesix]

well said, I agree.

and really, it isn't just this thread. the show has progressed in this same way .. the early shows, it was so much more about the family, the parenting, and how they got through a day. How long has it been since they showed the kids going to time out or how they get out the door looking as cute as they do? Now it's grand adventures, million dollar homes, and a lifestyle most will never have.

Yup, I'd like to see more of the regular family life -- homework, chores, Jon cooking now that he likely has to on his days.

Going back to the statement made about the tups not being ready for regular school yet -- I'd like to know what they did to prepare them for school. There are lots of families with preemies, etc. whose kids have to do early intervention to bring them up to grade level. If this was done with the Gosselin tups, it would have been an interesting and informative show for many viewers.

But I suppose they decide what shows to do now based on sponsors -- I don't think there are any sponsors for homework.

 

[Crazy4Disney72]

Oh, OK. I didn't realize it was different in their area. In our area, all the private school kids are taken to school in the buses the public school uses. Our school taxes pay to bus the private school kids (just like they would have to pay to bus them to public school, if they went there). Our private schools could never afford all the buses they would need, since the kids live all over and not in the actual school district of the school. The private small high school has about 20-25 buses bringing kids in from all over the county.

I can't say for certain how it is in J&K's area of PA, I live about an hour and a half from them, but in my area of PA, school busses for private school kids are paid for by tax dollars, it's covered by our school taxes.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Yup, I'd like to see more of the regular family life -- homework, chores, Jon cooking now that he likely has to on his days.

Going back to the statement made about the tups not being ready for regular school yet -- I'd like to know what they did to prepare them for school. There are lots of families with preemies, etc. whose kids have to do early intervention to bring them up to grade level. If this was done with the Gosselin tups, it would have been an interesting and informative show for many viewers.

But I suppose they decide what shows to do now based on sponsors -- I don't think there are any sponsors for homework.

Actually there is Mead, the paper making company that has notebooks and folders! Now if we see Cara or Mady doing homework and they zoom in on the folder or an eraser, we know! But wait, J&K are reading our thread anyway so we'll probably see a 'homework' episode next!

I agree though, I'd much rather see shows where they are doing 'homey' things like cooking, homework or a craft project. Heck even laundry! Now THAT'S something I can totally relate too! How I hate laundry, sigh.

 

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I think Kate is traveling a lot to promote herself hither, tither and yon. She has done at least three tv shows this month, two or three People ads, I mean articles this summer with photo shoots and is booked for three Southern Women's Shows next month in three different states. September 11 -Cleveland, OH, September 17 - Charlotte, NC and September 24 - Birmingham, AL. Wouldn't you slow it down a little at the beginning of a new school year with the divorce and all? Isn't that what all the cameras have been tolerated for? The ability to stay home for the kids.

The idea that this large family has to run this circus for their livelihood is beyond me. Of course they don't. And if they thought they did at one point, skip the multi million dollar spread you don't use and save the 75g's per episode so you can quit after 5 seasons (you know they don't live in years). They have acreage and a 7500 (or whatever) square foot home, and the kids have to eat in the driveway on a wooden picnic table all summer in the front of the house to avoid making a mess inside. At least let them eat their grapes and organic cheese cube around back by the pool. Who do they share this beautiful property with? Family? Friends? I wonder.

None of the stuff they have is worth a hill of beans. It's all about people, and the only ones around them seem to be getting paid. She said at one point the only person who understood her was Jon. So much for that.

The cover of the new People; what is with that crazed smile? She couldn't even muster a pleasant expression on the kids first days of school, but wants that on the cover? The inside shot is strange to me too. She is quite attractive, but it has all just gotten too weird. I need to quit reading it all, I really do.