Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[3prettyprincesses]

Is anyone else thinking that Jon is behaving this way to get himself booted off J&K+8?? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this is the 'real' Jon we're seeing but I'm wondering if he's being more open about himself in the hopes of being released from his TLC contract. People on this thread have already said they'd be willing to watch just Kate and the kids on the show, not Jon now. Maybe he's not quite as stupid as we think.

He's not had a steady job (other than the show of course) for years. We know he complains about having to stay home with the kids. Obviously he enjoys the $ and perks of being on the show but doesn't seem interested in doing the work of it. Remember, he can't be 'just Jon'? So I'll wager he's thinking if he can get released from his contract, Kate will have to pay him spousal support since she'll most likely continue, not to mention the $ from re-runs and book sales. Looks like he might have it pretty cushy and not have to do anything for it. That would leave him all the free time he wants for he and Hailey to blossom in their relationship! Again, I'm still baffled how a 32 year old man with 8 young children could have anything in common with a 22 year old party animal who holds fake guns to her friend's head, gets busted for marijuana possession and has lesbian escapades. Am I missing something?

 

[Mermaid02]

Is anyone else thinking that Jon is behaving this way to get himself booted off J&K+8?? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this is the 'real' Jon we're seeing but I'm wondering if he's being more open about himself in the hopes of being released from his TLC contract. People on this thread have already said they'd be willing to watch just Kate and the kids on the show, not Jon now. Maybe he's not quite as stupid as we think.

He's not had a steady job (other than the show of course) for years. We know he complains about having to stay home with the kids. Obviously he enjoys the $ and perks of being on the show but doesn't seem interested in doing the work of it. Remember, he can't be 'just Jon'? So I'll wager he's thinking if he can get released from his contract, Kate will have to pay him spousal support since she'll most likely continue, not to mention the $ from re-runs and book sales. Looks like he might have it pretty cushy and not have to do anything for it. That would leave him all the free time he wants for he and Hailey to blossom in their relationship! Again, I'm still baffled how a 32 year old man with 8 young children could have anything in common with a 22 year old party animal who holds fake guns to her friend's head, gets busted for marijuana possession and has lesbian escapades. Am I missing something?

I don't think so. As much as he whines about the show- he LOVES the attention and all the perks (aka coeds) and moolah that comes with it. He has merely gotten too full of himself.

Newsflash:

Jon- you're not all that. As a matter of fact, you're not even HALF of that. The minute you're out of the spotlight- your groupies will fade into the woodwork. After all, who wants to date a 32 year old man with EIGHT kids and NO JOB??

 

[torinsmom]

If Kate is smart, she will continue to keep quiet about the whole mess. Jon is doing a super job making himself look like an idiot, and he doesn't need any help! I think she will need to be careful if she gives an interview after the 45 days is over. She could say he does not agree with the choices Jon is making at this time, and that she is disappointed in his behavior and how it may impact the children. That is enough, IMHO.

My ex left DS and I when DS was 3. He did something similar to Jon--started wearing earrings, bought an expensive car, jumped from sleazy woman to sleazy woman. Basically, it was all about him and DS was just someone who didn't exist except when the ex wanted to see him. Fast forward 2 years and the ex was tired of that life and regretted leaving him family. I wouldn't take him back(duh). He still continues to say how he messed up. DS had to see all that and meet all these girls that he got semi used to and then it was a new one a few months later. It has affected DS, and I pray everyday that he will not emulate his father when he is older.

I think Jon will regret this in a year or so, especially if Kate takes the high road as she has been doing.

Marsha

 

[DMRick]

If Kate is smart, she will continue to keep quiet about the whole mess. Jon is doing a super job making himself look like an idiot, and he doesn't need any help! I think she will need to be careful if she gives an interview after the 45 days is over. She could say he does not agree with the choices Jon is making at this time, and that she is disappointed in his behavior and how it may impact the children. That is enough, IMHO.

I totally agree. Kate, if you are reading this (and we all know you are LOL!!)..copy and memorize the above!

 

[torinsmom]

TLC is showing on of the first specials right now(tups are 2). Jon was just asked if he ever resented Kate for wanting/pushing for more kids and Jon said "No, why would I resent her for something we did together?" They seem very happy on this show and it's very sad what things have come to.

Marsha

 

[mistydoodles]

Right now on TLC is the second year - "Jon and Kate Plus 8: Sextuplets and Twins, One Year Later."

It is so sad to watch. I think they are going to show her surgery with Dr. Glassman.

 

[torinsmom]

Oh, they are showing the surgery! WOnder if we will see Hailey when Kate is at their house? I am sure TLC is showing this special how for a reason.

Marsha

 

[madge]

If Kate is smart, she will continue to keep quiet about the whole mess. Jon is doing a super job making himself look like an idiot, and he doesn't need any help! I think she will need to be careful if she gives an interview after the 45 days is over. She could say he does not agree with the choices Jon is making at this time, and that she is disappointed in his behavior and how it may impact the children. That is enough, IMHO.

Kate's reaction will be as good/effective as her PR people make it.

Jon's on at least 2 covers this weekend... I'd be surprised if it isn't more than that.

This Monday marks 2 weeks before the return of the show. Let the games begin... articles about Kate making a go of parenting on her own, heavy promotion of the show by TLC, and continued internet Gosselin mania.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Here's some interesting stuff...Jon talks about how he and Hailey met and have grown...

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/jon-and-kate-plus-8/jon-and-kate-plus-8-daddy-jon-30044.aspx

Who else is counting days off the calendar? Apparently, Jon Gosselin isn't. Barely a month after his separation from Kate, he's already been out and about with a new girl. The Jon and Kate Plus 8 patriarch made headlines recently for being spotted holding hands in France with Hailey Glassman, and he has revealed to People that there's truly something going on between them.

"Hailey and I have been family friends for several years and only very recently began dating," Jon Gosselin announced to the magazine. "What began as friendship has grown into something more."

He went on to explain how he feels about the 22-year-old party girl, which made many believe that he's really taking advantage of the bachelor life. "I genuinely enjoy spending time with her. It's nice to be with someone who I can confide in and trust and who accepts me for who I am," Jon said.

The TLC star is still being criticized for his recent actions, particularly his trysts in St. Tropez aboard designer Christian Audigier's yacht. With this new relationship with Glassman, it looks like he's also starting off a new career. However, he assures the audience that it's his life and he knows what he's doing.

"I know that my decision to appear publicly with Hailey this weekend will be scrutinized, but I hope that people can see I'm a regular guy who is going through a very difficult time in [my] life and wants to move forward."

Unfortunately, Jon Gosselin still has daddy duties to attend to and Kate's definitely not letting him slip past those. Still, he reminds the press that he thinks of his kids nonstop and it's one part of his past that he'll hold on to.

On Wednesday, the Jon and Kate Plus 8 dad was welcomed by his children as he entered their Pennsylvania home. They surrounded their father in the driveway, shouting "Daddy, Daddy" excitedly.

"Every 10 minutes I keep thinking about the kids and missing them," Jon Gosselin exclaimed.

 

[DMRick]

Kate's reaction will be as good/effective as her PR people make it.

I can find no actual facts on if this is from her PR people. And of course as usual, we would not want to give Kate any of the credit for laying back and just being a good mom. No, doesn't matter what she does, it's never because she does love the kids and is doing what she thinks is best for them..which is keeping quiet right now. I'm not so sure I could, no matter what my PR people may say. But Kate can never win, even when it's Jon all over the mags. She's at fault even when she does nothing LOL.
I have no idea if it's PR or Kate..but I'll save the judging until I know for sure. Until I see the pictures of her out partying, I'll hold back on if it's PR and assume she is trying to do what is best for the situation.

 

[torinsmom]

I didn't have a PR person, but I think that moms have a way of putting aside their feelings to do what's best for their kids. I knew how to keep my mouth shut and put on a brave face for my child.

What is best for Kate's kids is to have a stable parent at home who is not acting like a child. Speaking negatively about your child's other parent hurts your child, as that person is part of them. I have no doubt that Kate has cried, screamed and vented to someone she is close to and can trust, but she is not doing it publicly. I think that is the "mom" in her and not a PR person.

Marsha

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Maybe he's not quite as stupid as we think.

Sorry...I couldn't resist.

 

[madge]

I can find no actual facts on if this is from her PR people. And of course as usual, we would not want to give Kate any of the credit for laying back and just being a good mom. No, doesn't matter what she does, it's never because she does love the kids and is doing what she thinks is best for them..which is keeping quiet right now. I'm not so sure I could, no matter what my PR people may say. But Kate can never win, even when it's Jon all over the mags. She's at fault even when she does nothing LOL.
I have no idea if it's PR or Kate..but I'll save the judging until I know for sure. Until I see the pictures of her out partying, I'll hold back on if it's PR and assume she is trying to do what is best for the situation.

I hope Kate has people (PR and other) helping her get through this. She should, if she doesn't. I cannot imagine how overwhelming this situation has been and it would seem appropriate, IMO, to have someone there to guide her. Things need to be handled very carefully. The future of the Kate Gosselin brand is at stake, and I believe Kate knows that. She needs this to play out in her favor.

Just because we don't see Kate out partying, that doesn't mean she's at home/in the house being a doting mother. There's a good chance she is, and I think (hope) she is .. but we don't know that for sure. I mean, we all thought Jon was doing a fine job, KWIM? We see what they want us to see. Always have, and probably always will.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I can find no actual facts on if this is from her PR people. And of course as usual, we would not want to give Kate any of the credit for laying back and just being a good mom. No, doesn't matter what she does, it's never because she does love the kids and is doing what she thinks is best for them..which is keeping quiet right now. I'm not so sure I could, no matter what my PR people may say. But Kate can never win, even when it's Jon all over the mags. She's at fault even when she does nothing LOL.
I have no idea if it's PR or Kate..but I'll save the judging until I know for sure. Until I see the pictures of her out partying, I'll hold back on if it's PR and assume she is trying to do what is best for the situation.

Kate does get a lot of criticism, I am guilty of it in the past myself. But I think that you're right Doris, Kate is darned if she does and darned if she doesn't. Personally, I think she's hurting more than any of us know regardless of how she's treated Jon in the past. Of course that's just my opinion but I'd bet she is sad and worried about the kids.

When she was gone on the book tour (after the speaking engagements which were supposed to be both her and Jon) she was doing what they agreed on. Promoting the book for 2-3 months and home on the days off from that. I think when she said on the season premiere was pretty honest, that she is doing what she's supposed to be doing (agreed on between her and Jon) and people are criticizing her. Jon played the pity party, oh woe is him that he had to stay home with the kids for 2-3 months with help. Even though she's chosen a life that I wouldn't for my family, she feels it is/was the best way to provide for them. Now that we see what a 'winner' Jon is and how he couldn't hold down a job, it makes sense what she was thinking.

I didn't have a PR person, but I think that moms have a way of putting aside their feelings to do what's best for their kids. I knew how to keep my mouth shut and put on a brave face for my child.

What is best for Kate's kids is to have a stable parent at home who is not acting like a child. Speaking negatively about your child's other parent hurts your child, as that person is part of them. I have no doubt that Kate has cried, screamed and vented to someone she is close to and can trust, but she is not doing it publicly. I think that is the "mom" in her and not a PR person.

Marsha

Agreed. I hope too that she can put aside her anger and bitterness (which would be beyond difficult for me!) and stay quiet. The kids don't need a tabloid cover war with Jon said/Kate said.

Sorry...I couldn't resist.

I know! I laughed myself when I wrote that!!!

 

[MAKmom]

I can find no actual facts on if this is from her PR people. And of course as usual, we would not want to give Kate any of the credit for laying back and just being a good mom. No, doesn't matter what she does, it's never because she does love the kids and is doing what she thinks is best for them..which is keeping quiet right now. I'm not so sure I could, no matter what my PR people may say. But Kate can never win, even when it's Jon all over the mags. She's at fault even when she does nothing LOL.
I have no idea if it's PR or Kate..but I'll save the judging until I know for sure. Until I see the pictures of her out partying, I'll hold back on if it's PR and assume she is trying to do what is best for the situation.

I agree. It's time to stop kicking her. Her world has fallen apart. Jon's immature behavior gives us a clue to what she was dealing with all these years.

 

[DMRick]

I hope Kate has people (PR and other) helping her get through this. She should, if she doesn't. I cannot imagine how overwhelming this situation has been and it would seem appropriate, IMO, to have someone there to guide her. Things need to be handled very carefully. The future of the Kate Gosselin brand is at stake, and I believe Kate knows that. She needs this to play out in her favor.

Just because we don't see Kate out partying, that doesn't mean she's at home/in the house being a doting mother. There's a good chance she is, and I think (hope) she is .. but we don't know that for sure. I mean, we all thought Jon was doing a fine job, KWIM? We see what they want us to see. Always have, and probably always will.

I'm sure Kate does have PR people, but I also don't think that everything she does for her children's sake is PR driven.

No, we don't know if Kate is home or out partying, or bringing in boyfriends..but until I do see her acting like Jon, and pictures all over the mag covers, I don't plan on judging her actions, and assuming she is staying quiet so she can be shown as the better parent. I don't have a problem with either of them having a friend, but that doesn't stop me from thinking Jon is showing his true colors. He went from traveling all over Europe with a back pack, to having a bunch of kids. I think he wants to go back to the backpack, only with money and hotels.

I don't even feel that Jon is doing anything wrong. Do I think he's scum and has picked a poor partner, and has apparently thought with the opposite of his brain as for what the kids will see in the mags? Yes. But, they are separated and he is free to party, but since he knows the pap are all over and this will be splashed on front pages and the internet, I would have liked for him to be more private. If Kate gets herself a boyfriend (or has one already) I hope she too will be more private for everyone's sake.

 

[madge]

people (here and other places) say Kate doesn't like/take care of the dogs?

what a shocker a picture of Kate brushing the dog. in the front yard where the paps can see.

There was a link here .. but it appears to be bad, don't click on it if you see this quoted downthread.

Good Lord, I've become very cynical about all of this. LOL.

 

[MichelleVW]

people (here and other places) say Kate doesn't like/take care of the dogs?

what a shocker a picture of Kate brushing the dog. in the front yard where the paps can see.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kate-gosselin-doggy-duty-215692/

Good Lord, I've become very cynical about all of this. LOL.

She needs to get a furminator with those 2 dogs....it's a life saver in my house.

 

[Mermaid02]

people (here and other places) say Kate doesn't like/take care of the dogs?

what a shocker a picture of Kate brushing the dog. in the front yard where the paps can see.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kate-gosselin-doggy-duty-215692/

Good Lord, I've become very cynical about all of this. LOL.

Sorry- the woman should be able to brush her dogs while watching her children ride their bikes without everyone jumping on it as a photo op. The dogs shed and for someone as nasty neat as Kate- it's a big deal.

 

[momrek06]

Oh, they are showing the surgery! WOnder if we will see Hailey when Kate is at their house? I am sure TLC is showing this special how for a reason.

Marsha

Ya, Hailey was probably 12 years old..........