Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 3

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I remember an episode, it may have been the one where they did their will, but they said at that time they were not saving for the kids college, that when the time came that God would provide. HELLO God provided for you now!
 
I just hate when people say stuff like that " God will provide more than you can imagine if you trust and pray" give me a break Kate. It is like those people who pray to get a good parking space, or pray to get someplace on time and it was their own fault for being tardy. I really hate that, I always tell people who say to prayfor something,ahem my evangelical neighbor, if I am goign to pray for anybody it would be for the children living in the gutter in Bangladesh. Geez it is such a narrcisstic view of life. Like God, whatever you belive God to be, has nothing better to do than worry about your wants.

That's the good thing about God. You can come to Him with anything, be it a tiny problem or a huge epidemic. He will listen to all of it.

If you get down to it, complaining about JK8 is silly because there are, like you said, children living in gutters. Instead of typing on a messageboard, you could be praying for them (or trying to help them in some way). I'm not saying you have to, but when you start making statements about what is important and what is not, it just escalates. I can name something more important. But this is waaay more important than that, etc.
 
I never understood her not being a morning person? I am a very light sleeper, I read somewhere that woman are because we generaaly have to wake up when the baby cries in the middle of the night. When I first got married my husband and I had very different schedules I still would wake up with him have a coffee and send him on his way. It was important to me. Me, when I am up ,I am up. It just always seemed so strange to me to have 8 kids and be like I can't get up before 8, hello school starts at 8:15.
 
I thought I watched the show often, but I must have missed some. I've seen her dressing the kids and doing hair, and many many times have seen her cooking. She seems to have been in the kitchen doing clean up while the kids were eating. I also remember seeing her many times outside with them as they played as they got older.
I always thought they showed the work of the kids pretty evenly divided.
No matter what we saw, of course it was up to TLC to show us what they wanted us to see. If they wanted her to look like she was always picking on Jon, that is what we would see. If they wanted it to look like he did all the work (once he stopped an outside job) that's what we would see.

As for his job with her brother, I thought the gossip at the time when he left that job, was, he wasn't working hard enough and it was decided by Kate's brother he wouldn't work for him anymore.

If you noticed Kate would be sitting outside and the kids would be playing and when Jon was home on the weekend he would be playing with the kids. Now I have to admit I have been know to sit and watch my kids play but I had a stage 1 clinger and playing with her only made it worse!
 

I agree with you with the "if all she says is true" But how do we know? We are not flies on their walls, we want to be but we aren't! This is a phrase I said over and over when the couple that introduced me and DH were getting a divorce Ah hem! Ready! There is his side, her side and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

As far as Jon isn't happy just doing the show. I was under the impression that once Jon started working for Bob and coming home shortly before Mady and Cara got home from school Kate saw how easy her life would be if he were home all the time dealing with the kids when she didn't want to so badgered him in to quitting. I could be wrong but it just seemed that way. Lets face it. It's Kate's way or the highway and well I personally don't think a marriage can last in that situation. (And I believe that's why my sister never got married :rotfl:)

I remember those episodes too where Jon would be able to come home early enought to get the twins from the schoolbus and Kate seemed thrilled! It's sad, remember how happy she was when he'd walk through the door, she'd hug him or at least greet him with happiness?

I honestly don't remember what Kate said about their day to day care (bath, meals, etc) .. IIRC, she never really got that specific. She mentioned diaper changing and stuff like that when they were babies. The speech I saw, which I think is pretty much the standard Kate speech, mirrored Multiple Blessings. She talked mostly about the earlier years, when they were struggling. The whole theme of the talk I saw was God will provide more than you can imagine if you just trust in Him and pray enough.

With that said, she mentions being a SAHM being the best job, she also comments on how much she enjoys being out doing speaking engagements. It's definitely a mixed message.

:lmao: That is a confusing message isn't it?

I feel the same way...which makes me wonder if the marriage is more over then she leads on. Like maybe it's already known that they will end their marriage but they aren't talking about that part yet?

I don't know but I would feel like a fool if my spouse wrote all that in a magazine. Even if he is guilty of being an idiot. I dont know it just makes me wonder how much she really wants to work on the marriage.

Besides she says they are dealing with it privately and now everyone in the world gets to read about it. I would have picked privately. :confused3

Of course Jon is guilty of being an idiot! If there were an Idiot University, he'd be teaching classes! I really think Kate saying what she did in the People interview was very calculated because she knew the mess they were in. I do think part of it were true but it didn't sound like someone who'd be willing to work on their marriage. I wonder how Jon feels about it? Ya, they're both "dealing with it privately", what a joke. It's looking more and more like a 3-ring circus.

You are right. They never beat around the bush about this. Even when he worked outside the home, he oversaw all 8 baths and pj's. She couldn't get up early when he was working and left the babies in their cribs awake until around 9am, put them back in from 12-4 and he was home around 6pm. Her job was feeding them. After Jon stopped working, he did lots of routine childcare tasks. We saw it on the shows all of the time. Now there is obviously full time help, probably multiple people; I don't know who is taking care of the kids. She seems to be lately more interested in scrubbing a soon to be discarded fridge with a q-tip than taking care of kids. Jon appears to be hands on on the show.

I agree, I've always felt Jon was more hands on with the kids.

I think Kate had something to do with Jon being home too. I think she liked it. Do you remember the Disney episode when he wanted to get the trailer and she begged him to go the next day because she was so tired and needed his help? And I think it worked out great for her too because he's "home" while she is out traveling. I think if Jon had just sit back and never said anything about wanting something else, she would have just kept it up. Oh wait she is still keeping it up...which really makes me think the marriage is already over anyway.

I remember that episode, they were both acting like kids....Jon, I'm so tired can't you do all that later? Kate, I have my own list of things to do...yada, yada, yada!

I always saw him as being more hands on in the show. He was always getting them dressed and trying to find their shoes.

In my home it's which parent is readily available. If I'm doing dishes, then he is giving our son his bath. If he is out mowing the lawn, then I'm the one changing the diapers. It's never just one of us doing the parenting. Heck now that my son is almost 3, he pretty much pickes who he wants to do something for him. That's always fun too. ;)

Yup, I feel like Jon was usually the one dealing with the kids. Geez, how many times did Kate call his name JJJJJJOOOOOONNNNN! when one the kids threw a fit or fell down and got dirty?

From what I saw, she did do somethings too, but it seemed she was more in the kitchen then anywhere, which I can understand and I only have 3.
I did find it odd that he would get up in the morning to go to work and would have to get the two older girls ready while Kate was asleep and the babies stayed in their crib. I don't know how she was able to do that because mine would have screamed until I got in there. He would even bring her a cup of coffee because she was not a morning person. I am not a morning person either but I am able to get my two older kids ready for school while the baby is sleeping.

It did seem she was in the kitchen alot. I thought the same about him getting the twins all ready for school so Kate could sleep in and then he'd bring her coffee. Normally that would be a very sweet thing for a DH to do but I get the impression he was ordered to do it! For the record I am SO not a morning person but manage to get my kids together.
 
I just hate when people say stuff like that " God will provide more than you can imagine if you trust and pray" give me a break Kate. It is like those people who pray to get a good parking space, or pray to get someplace on time and it was their own fault for being tardy. I really hate that, I always tell people who say to prayfor something,ahem my evangelical neighbor, if I am goign to pray for anybody it would be for the children living in the gutter in Bangladesh. Geez it is such a narrcisstic view of life. Like God, whatever you belive God to be, has nothing better to do than worry about your wants.

As my mom would say "be careful what you pray for you might just get it!"
 
That's the good thing about God. You can come to Him with anything, be it a tiny problem or a huge epidemic. He will listen to all of it.

If you get down to it, complaining about JK8 is silly because there are, like you said, children living in gutters. Instead of typing on a messageboard, you could be praying for them (or trying to help them in some way). I'm not saying you have to, but when you start making statements about what is important and what is not, it just escalates. I can name something more important. But this is waaay more important than that, etc.

That is your definition of your God, that you can come to him about anything. Don't assume that is mine. I did not say I pray for anybody, I said if I was to pray there are more important things than the miniscule aspects of day to day life. I just find it to be a very self centered view of the world, one that Kate has truly embraced.
 
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That is your definition of your God, that you can come to him about anything. Don't assume that is mine. I did not say I pray for anybody, I said if I was to pray there are more important things than the miniscule aspects of day to day life. I just find it to be a very self centered view of the world, one that Kate has truly embraced.

Do we have to start saying "the general you" again? Apparently. I was referring to the general you.
 
I have no problem with Jon and Kate relying on God, and I would love to discuss how God provides for my family (even the simple stuff) when I least expect it, but it's not allowed on the Dis to discuss religion. If we continue this conversation, this thread will be closed, and I don't want that to happen :(

I just hate when people say stuff like that " God will provide more than you can imagine if you trust and pray" give me a break Kate. It is like those people who pray to get a good parking space, or pray to get someplace on time and it was their own fault for being tardy. I really hate that, I always tell people who say to prayfor something,ahem my evangelical neighbor, if I am goign to pray for anybody it would be for the children living in the gutter in Bangladesh. Geez it is such a narrcisstic view of life. Like God, whatever you belive God to be, has nothing better to do than worry about your wants.
 
That's the good thing about God. You can come to Him with anything, be it a tiny problem or a huge epidemic. He will listen to all of it.

If you get down to it, complaining about JK8 is silly because there are, like you said, children living in gutters. Instead of typing on a messageboard, you could be praying for them (or trying to help them in some way). I'm not saying you have to, but when you start making statements about what is important and what is not, it just escalates. I can name something more important. But this is waaay more important than that, etc.
You have made a good point
 
That's the good thing about God. You can come to Him with anything, be it a tiny problem or a huge epidemic. He will listen to all of it.

If you get down to it, complaining about JK8 is silly because there are, like you said, children living in gutters. Instead of typing on a messageboard, you could be praying for them (or trying to help them in some way). I'm not saying you have to, but when you start making statements about what is important and what is not, it just escalates. I can name something more important. But this is waaay more important than that, etc.

I swear we have the same brain sometimes.....I was going to say the same thing but didn't have too!

I never understood her not being a morning person? I am a very light sleeper, I read somewhere that woman are because we generaaly have to wake up when the baby cries in the middle of the night. When I first got married my husband and I had very different schedules I still would wake up with him have a coffee and send him on his way. It was important to me. Me, when I am up ,I am up. It just always seemed so strange to me to have 8 kids and be like I can't get up before 8, hello school starts at 8:15.

What's important to you isn't important to everyone. No way would I have gotten up in the morning if I didn't have too to give my husband coffee and send him on his way....I probably would have just hollered at him if he turned on the light and woke me up!! :rotfl:
 
I swear we have the same brain sometimes.....I was going to say the same thing but didn't have too!



What's important to you isn't important to everyone. No way would I have gotten up in the morning if I didn't have too to give my husband coffee and send him on his way....I probably would have just hollered at him if he turned on the light and woke me up!! :rotfl:

To each is own, I have been married 20 years so guess I am doing something right:banana:
 
I couldn't believe that episode when she said she wasn't a morning person. Jon had to get the two girls up and ready for school while he was getting ready for work. The babies stayed in their cribs while Kate slept.

Hello - I had seven kids and it never even occured to me that I had the choice of "not being a morning person". Come on, everyone who has babies or younger children would like to sleep in in the morning but that's not real life.

I've kept out of these threads but I have to say I thought Kate was one of the most self-centered people I've ever seen. To me she really had an entitlement position. It was like I have 8 kids, people owe me.

Well I had seven and we never asked anyone for anything. No one was giving us the gymboree clothes or Disney trips. We worked and paid for everything we had, and everything we gave to our kids, including college.

Maybe Kate will have to wake up and see what the real world is like. I can't believe TLC will keep the show running.

Now I did have cleaning people come in once a week but nobody was rushing to my house to do my laundry and ironing. Maybe Kate should have spent less time washing her kitchen floor three times a day and paid more attention to her family. I think her real panic right now is not being a "celebrity" anymore.
 
To each is own, I have been married 20 years so guess I am doing something right:banana:
I've been married over 40 years, and if he wants coffee in the morning, he darn well can get it himself LOL. And hopefully he's quiet about it LOL!
Leave me alone in the morning! He does, and that's one reason why we have such a wonderful marriage!
Oh, and he had no problem getting the kids (3) ready in the morning, and he often took them to school. I did other things that he didn't care to do.
 
I've been married over 40 years, and if he wants coffee in the morning, he darn well can get it himself LOL. And hopefully he's quiet about it LOL!
Leave me alone in the morning! He does, and that's one reason why we have such a wonderful marriage!

So, if you've been married for 40 years, does that make you twice as right as she is? ;)
 
I couldn't believe that episode when she said she wasn't a morning person. Jon had to get the two girls up and ready for school while he was getting ready for work. The babies stayed in their cribs while Kate slept.

Hello - I had seven kids and it never even occured to me that I had the choice of "not being a morning person". Come on, everyone who has babies or younger children would like to sleep in in the morning but that's not real life.

I've kept out of these threads but I have to say I thought Kate was one of the most self-centered people I've ever seen. To me she really had an entitlement position. It was like I have 8 kids, people owe me.

Well I had seven and we never asked anyone for anything. No one was giving us the gymboree clothes or Disney trips. We worked and paid for everything we had, and everything we gave to our kids, including college.

Maybe Kate will have to wake up and see what the real world is like. I can't believe TLC will keep the show running.

Now I did have cleaning people come in once a week but nobody was rushing to my house to do my laundry and ironing. Maybe Kate should have spent less time washing her kitchen floor three times a day and paid more attention to her family. I think her real panic right now is not being a "celebrity" anymore.

I agree with you. It is hard to swallow the sense entitlement she has when you either come from a large family or have one. You do your best to take care of everybody and do not even think you're owed someting, it is just life you deal with it.
 
So, if you've been married for 40 years, does that make you twice as right as she is? ;)

There is no twice as right. It's all about what works for you and yours. It worked very well for us, for me to not be up early :goodvibes

I assume it worked for Jon and Kate.
 
There is no twice as right. It's all about what works for you and yours. It worked very well for us, for me to not be up early :goodvibes

I assume it worked for Jon and Kate.

Well, JK8 have only been married for 9 years, so they're only a quarter as right. It's really all about the math.

Unfortunately I have a lot of time on my hands while on bedrest, so you won't be rid of me all day, people.
 
Someone a while backcommented on how they feel Kate's ridiculous hair is a refelction of her attitude. Well, here we have it directly from Kate---

"It's my attitude! Everybody wants it. It's work. I have very, very thick hair, so it's not going to work for everybody. I've seen people come through the book line with thin hair and it's just won't work. My hair stylist gets calls from all across the country.

Here is a link to the article: http://www.stylelist.com/blog/2009/...og/2009/05/14/kates-spikey-hair-a-do-or-dont/

The more and more I read about her, well I am to the point where I just think she is a total 'behind'. It is worth repeating--this situation is just swful for these children!!!
 
Hmm...If Jon and Kate go off air, I know of a great replacement for the show. All of this sounds very familiar so trust me, kate is not the only one living this life of her DH getting kids ready while she sleeps, working FT and still bathing his kids etc. I am not sure how many moms live this way but I do know of one!
We've all always wondered what she does all day--maybe if there were cameras there we could find out! LOL
 
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