Jon and Kate Plus 8 official Thread, Part 2!!

[mhsjax]

I'm not grasping at straws. She has made many comments like that and I'm sure the children will have some weird feelings about it growing up. My DH was a "mistake" as his parents say and it still bothers him to this day and that is only said around family. He always says "why can't they just say happy accident". It bothers you when you feel your parents weren't ecstatic to find out you were on the way.

I have two kids. What does that matter? They put themselves out there to the public. They have to accept the good with the bad.

I think you are getting a little harsh with people that don't agree with you.

Doesn't bother me and my mom said when she found out she wanted to stop and buy a gun and shoot herself for being pregnant again. Now that being said, they made it clear after that they they were very glad to have me, but also made it known that I was in no way planned and not wanted at the time of conception.

 

[eh24fan]

hopefully this link will work:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040602230954/www.sixgosselins.com/Story/

We decided that in October we would return for “round two”, but I got impatient (imagine that!) and went back in August right before our family trip to Disney World. August failed!

When we returned, we switched doctors and tried again in October…….That cycle was perfect! Everything went great! I was told I had 3 with a possibility of 4 follicles, and that was a great cycle! The only thing that made our doctor nervous was the fact that we were absolutely opposed to reduction and that we were concerned about multiples again. We prayed about this and just like our peace about returning in October f or this, we felt peace about proceeding. So we did!

Five weeks later, (after my hospitalization for over stimulated ovaries) we were at our initial ultrasound and learned the news. I will never forget this day as long as I live. There were seven sacs with four yolksacs, or babies in four of them. At the count of four, I was scared. At five I started crying and at six I was shaking absolutely sobbing. Jon had turned form the screen, he couldn’t look anymore. I have never seen him so close to tears in my life! The doctor “reassured” us by telling us E=We would talk about reduction. I pulled myself together and stared right at him and said “We’re not doing reduction!” After the ultrasound he called us into his office and tried to convince us that reduction was the thing to do. Again, we refused!

Now see, I took that to mean she was already pregnant at the time...so I don't know.

 

[MichelleVW]

Doesn't bother me and my mom said when she found out she wanted to stop and buy a gun and shoot herself for being pregnant again. Now that being said, they made it clear after that they they were very glad to have me, but also made it known that I was in no way planned and not wanted at the time of conception.

My first child was a major major mistake, but I didn't think about shooting myself until I was in labor!!

 

[madge]

In reading the article Madge posted above about the Gosselins receiving Medicaid benefits, I just noticed that Jon was actually employed at the time. He was working in the Pennsylvania governor's office (I think he got that job due to the publicity surrounding the septuplets' birth?). The article states they "need" the nurse, but cannot afford to pay her on their own. So some might say that they could not provide for their own kids' needs (even with Jon working, not when he was laid off.) I have no idea what else Medicaid might have covered for them, if anything, or if they qualified based on income or on the babies prematurity or whatever.

here's one other (Pittsburgh-based paper) article about the nurse .. they're interesting reads, considering they're from nearly 4 years ago.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_334106.html

 

[DreaGirl]

Now see, I took that to mean she was already pregnant at the time...so I don't know.

I took it as her ovaries were overstimulated from the drugs before she conceived. Why would they be overstimulated before the procedure? They would have been able to tell at the hospital if she was already pregant when she went in for the overstimulation I would assume.

 

[disneychrista]

Quick survey...

Who has kids and how many do you have?

I have two teenagers. Both girls.

 

[pamouselover]

In reading the article Madge posted above about the Gosselins receiving Medicaid benefits, I just noticed that Jon was actually employed at the time. He was working in the Pennsylvania governor's office (I think he got that job due to the publicity surrounding the septuplets' birth?). The article states they "need" the nurse, but cannot afford to pay her on their own. So some might say that they could not provide for their own kids' needs (even with Jon working, not when he was laid off.) I have no idea what else Medicaid might have covered for them, if anything, or if they qualified based on income or on the babies prematurity or whatever.

Yes, that is correct. The governor gave him a job, becasue he felt bad for them. Jon quit that job, and his job with Beth's husband was just pretend.

I have two teenagers. Both girls.

God bless you!
I have two, a boy and girl 16 and 12.

 

[mtemm]

I agree. I do hear her say how it was horrific news and terrifying, and somewhat of a nightmare, but let's be honest...who here wouldn't have the same thoughts if they found out they were pregnant with 6 or 7 babies??? I can't even imagine that kind of news, and I would be terrified. She's just being honest when she says this, and I think most ppl. would feel the same way.

I still remember my husband's face when he found our we were having TWINS. I've never seen a human being that color before (or that lack of color, I should say). the two of us were in shock and didn't come down from that shock for a while....days, weeks, months, can't remember, just remember I felt this numb shock for a long time. I can only imagine finding out there were 6 babies. I probably would say the same thing...but there is also honesty is saying you love all of your children and cherish them as blessings, as well. doesn't have to be either/or.

 

[pamouselover]

I just think that is strange that they were not even married a year and she knew she would have problems. Sounds to me like she had tried previously tried to have children. Here own Mother has been stated as saying Kate wanted kids at an early age too. I also know many friends who are unable to have children. My one co worker adopted three years ago, after years of trying. My DH's cousin and her husband have been trying for six years now, and have decided that they are going to adopt. They are taking whatever god sends their way. I thought Kate was thankful for her "Multiple Blessings".

Did I hear her right on the Dr. PHil show that she did not LEAVE THE HOUSE FOR TWO YEARS?

 

[madge]

Did I hear her right on the Dr. PHil show that she did not LEAVE THE HOUSE FOR TWO YEARS?

I've heard her say something similar. I didn't remember it being 2 years, but I know she's said she didn't leave the house for an extended period of time. and they couldn't all go in the same vehicle until they got the van.

 

[DreaGirl]

Did I hear her right on the Dr. PHil show that she did not LEAVE THE HOUSE FOR TWO YEARS?

She said on the first special that the only time they left was to go to church. She said nothing about staying home for 2 years. They had to take two cars everywhere is what she said previously.

Also, wasn't the first special aired when the sextuplets were 15 months or so? They went out then right?

 

[madge]

I just think that is strange that they were not even married a year and she knew she would have problems. Sounds to me like she had tried previously tried to have children. Here own Mother has been stated as saying Kate wanted kids at an early age too. I also know many friends who are unable to have children. My one co worker adopted three years ago, after years of trying. My DH's cousin and her husband have been trying for six years now, and have decided that they are going to adopt. They are taking whatever god sends their way. I thought Kate was thankful for her "Multiple Blessings".

I've wondered about how quickly they started seeing the fertility doctor - the only people I know that have had fertility issues tried for years before seeing doctors, exploring treatments, etc. I'll admit that I know little to nothing about fertility issues, though. Maybe there were earlier health issues Kate hasn't disclosed, and that's how she knew she'd have trouble conceiving? If that's the case, I don't know why she wouldn't come out and say that, though, since they've been up front about so many other things.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I just think that is strange that they were not even married a year and she knew she would have problems. Sounds to me like she had tried previously tried to have children. Here own Mother has been stated as saying Kate wanted kids at an early age too. I also know many friends who are unable to have children. My one co worker adopted three years ago, after years of trying. My DH's cousin and her husband have been trying for six years now, and have decided that they are going to adopt. They are taking whatever god sends their way. I thought Kate was thankful for her "Multiple Blessings".

Did I hear her right on the Dr. PHil show that she did not LEAVE THE HOUSE FOR TWO YEARS?

Not strange. Kate has PCOS, as do I. I'm not married, nor considering having a child in the near future. However, I've been told all of the options available to me when I decide to have children. Doesn't mean she's tried to have children before that point.

 

[DVCisME]

Maybe the two years were her being pregnant and then the first year of the tups life.

 

[madge]

Not strange. Kate has PCOS, as do I. I'm not married, nor considering having a child in the near future. However, I've been told all of the options available to me when I decide to have children. Doesn't mean she's tried to have children before that point.

that addresses my comment then!

 

[mhsjax]

My first child was a major major mistake, but I didn't think about shooting myself until I was in labor!!

I think it something to do with my mom's other 2 kids being grown and out of the house and then she had to start all over again with me. But I kept her young, or so she says.

 

[mhsjax]

I've wondered about how quickly they started seeing the fertility doctor - the only people I know that have had fertility issues tried for years before seeing doctors, exploring treatments, etc. I'll admit that I know little to nothing about fertility issues, though. Maybe there were earlier health issues Kate hasn't disclosed, and that's how she knew she'd have trouble conceiving? If that's the case, I don't know why she wouldn't come out and say that, though, since they've been up front about so many other things.

you know it does seem weird that she just knew that she would have fertility problems, and I am no kate lover by any means. but I do believe her on this part. I had a friend(also a nurse, by the way) and she just knew she would have fertility problems and she was only 21, and you know what, she was right. I think some people just know.

 

[pamouselover]

I think it something to do with my mom's other 2 kids being grown and out of the house and then she had to start all over again with me. But I kept her young, or so she says.

My Mom said the same thing. She was 40 when she had me!

BTW- Kate is an RN, but not a degree RN. Reading hospital had/has a program and that’s how she became a nurse.

 

[SeaSpray]

Hi everyone

This is my first time posting on this thread. I read it a few times a week and I find everyone's opinions and observations about this family to be really interesting (to say the least! LOL).

I don't particularly like or dislike this family; there are moments in the shows where I think that Jon and Kate are wonderful parents, and then there are moments where I wonder "What are they THINKING?!?!?" LOL

Anyway, just wanted to comment:

you know it does seem weird that she just knew that she would have fertility problems, and I am no kate lover by any means. but I do believe her on this part. I had a friend(also a nurse, by the way) and she just knew she would have fertility problems and she was only 21, and you know what, she was right. I think some people just know.

I was only 21 years old when I knew that I'd have fertility problems. I had not yet begun to try and conceive, but it was during a yearly gyn check-up when my doctor told me that because I didn't get my period regularly (about every 3 months back then), that I wasn't ovulating, and that meant that when I did want to try and conceive, that I'd need help. How right he was! It took me 4 years, tons of Clomid, mornings of taking my temperature before getting out of bed, etc, to finally become pregnant. Only to have a miscarriage. Then several months after that I got pregnant again, and had my first DS.

Anyway, it is very possible for young people to know that they'll have trouble conceiving, way before they even try to start having a family.

My Mom said the same thing. She was 40 when she had me!

My poor mother was 42 when she had me!!!! LOL I definitely kept her young! (My mother died in 2003; she would've been 90 years old next Tuesday! I still miss her. )

 

[DreaGirl]

It's not weird to me that she thought she would have fertility problems. I think that a sometimes a woman just knows that something isn't right. What I find weird is that she was able to get IUI so quickly.

It took us 14 months to get our DD. Kate was 24/25. I was 27 when we started. My OB told me that under 30, they wait 1 year. So we tried to for 1 year. At 1 year, we were offered clomid. We were terrified of getting twins or more, so we decided to wait 6 more months. 2 more months later, we were pregnant. I realize that she had PCOS, but they didn't even try for 6 months. Just weird to me.