Johnny Depp Trial

[Lilsia]

Is this trial on tv?

It is streamed live on You Tube. You can go back and watch it from several different channels.

 

[izzy]

It is streamed live on You Tube. You can go back and watch it from several different channels.

Thank you! I can’t believe that I haven’t gotten sucked into this long before now.

 

[Disneytrippin']

She did show pictures of herself with bruises on her face and a cut lip at the end of her testimony today. Not sure what to make of that.

Shes violent. No doubt she hurt herself going after Johnny.

Imagine someone clawing at you hitting you spitting on you throwing things at you. Grabbing your hair.

What do you do? He may have had to push her away. Which she turns into being knocked down.

This woman is a liar and a terrible actress. Her testimony today was so cringy. The amount of cans and bottles thrown according to her do not match the pictures. She claims he threw can after can bottle after bottle and then stopped because her ran out of things to throw.

She cries without tears. She is so obviously full of crap. Wheres the phone damage? Did I miss that? Where's this complete destruction she animated?

She said she slipped on the glass. She describes not keeping her footing. Wheres the blood from that? She's slipping on glass. Was she wearing shoes then?.....with her nightgown? Wheres the pictures of her torn nightgowns. Where is the blood on the floor?

This girl is terrifying.

 

[Lilsia]

Thank you! I can’t believe that I haven’t gotten sucked into this long before now.

I believe that it was brought up before that her and her sister would do these injuries just to take pictures of them. Not once did any police or medical professional see any injuries on her.

 

[TLSnell1981]

She did show pictures of herself with bruises on her face and a cut lip at the end of her testimony today. Not sure what to make of that.

Is this the photo she used to get the restraining order? The one that no one, including three LEO, doorman, etc. saw any marks, swelling, bruising, etc for two days? They appeared when she went to file.

 

[Disneytrippin']

 

[Cheburashka]

I have only listened to a few moments here/there (a little of him, a little of her) and I never read her OpEd. But I do have a question. Isn't it possible that they were both abusive? Perhaps she "worse" than he, but given he someone who dealt with substance issues, I'm not sure how you can rule out things he did but can't recall?

I don't get how the people on this thread (and elsewhere) are so sure about what did or didn't happen. This is all his word vs. hers, with no real eyewitnesses to abuse, and they obviously both have major issues. Johnny Depp was notorious for drunken/drug filled rages leading him to trash hotel rooms decades before he met Amber Heard. And Amber Heard obviously has issues of her own. I don't find either of them completely credible, but at the same time, I can't completely rule out either's testimony. I suspect that because Johnny Depp is much more famous and many people grew up watching him, they naturally sympathize with him over her. I find them both unsympathetic, and think it's impossible to know what happened. Their respective testimonies cancel each other out, their respective psychologists' testimonies cancel each other out, etc. At the end of the day, it's a matter of, who do you like more? A lot of people like Johnny more, or at least are much more familiar with him, so they assume he's the victim. I suspect there was some mutual violence fueled by drugs and mental illness, but again, it's impossible to really know.

If I were on the jury, I would not award either party any money.

 

[Christine]

I don't get how the people on this thread (and elsewhere) are so sure about what did or didn't happen. This is all his word vs. hers, with no real eyewitnesses to abuse, and they obviously both have major issues. I don't find either of them completely credible, but at the same time, I can't completely rule out either's testimony. I suspect that because Johnny Depp is much more famous and many people grew up watching him, they naturally sympathize with him over her. I find them both unsympathetic, and think it's impossible to know what happened. Their respective testimonies cancel each other out, their respective psychologists' testimonies cancel each other out, etc. At the end of the day, it's a matter of, who do you like more? A lot of people like Johnny more, so they assume he's the victim. I suspect it was mutual abuse fueled by drugs and mental illness, but again, it's impossible to really know.

If I were on the jury, I would not award either party any money.

I guess it really comes down to, does a person have a right to go public and ruin someone's career with heavily veiled accusations. First, she only got her platform for her opinion piece because of who she is and who she was likely writing about. You or I could not get that. Second, if I was in a relationship with someone who pushed my buttons to some extent as apparently she did and drove me to behaviors I was not proud of, I doubt I'd let her off the hook either for basically slandering my reputation.

You're right of course that it's a "he said, she said" thing but Johnny Depp is not a young man, has been in several long term relationships and there's not a hint of this in his past. There's a first time for everything, but he doesn't demonstrate the pattern of an abuser so in that regard I tend to lean toward him in this case. And I do wonder how far someone can publicly go against another person to continue some horrible relationship antics.

 

[Cheburashka]

I guess it really comes down to, does a person have a right to go public and ruin someone's career with heavily veiled accusations. First, she only got her platform for her opinion piece because of who she is and who she was likely writing about. You or I could not get that. Second, if I was in a relationship with someone who pushed my buttons to some extent as apparently she did and drove me to behaviors I was not proud of, I doubt I'd let her off the hook either for basically slandering my reputation.

You're right of course that it's a "he said, she said" thing but Johnny Depp is not a young man, has been in several long term relationships and there's not a hint of this in his past. There's a first time for everything, but he doesn't demonstrate the pattern of an abuser so in that regard I tend to lean toward him in this case. And I do wonder how far someone can publicly go against another person to continue some horrible relationship antics.

There doesn't need to be a consistent pattern of abuse from partner to partner. My ex was abusive to me, but not to his previous or later partner. He had a particular rage against me, because he strongly pressured me to have an abortion and I refused, and he never forgave me for that, and sometimes exploded violently until I finally got out. I have to maintain minimal contact with him for custody reasons, and even post-relationship he continued being verbally abusive and controlling, to the extent that I've had to have an attorney do multiple cease and desists and we now no longer speak at all, can only communicate via text/email. To his friends and family, he's a great guy.

Depp has a longstanding drug problem and long standing temper control issues. Smashing up hotel rooms isn't domestic abuse, sure, but the other women he'd been with (Winona Ryder, Jennifer Grey, etc.) did not have Amber Heard's difficult personality, so Heard might have pushed his buttons in a way that his previous girlfriends did not. He also might have assaulted her when under the influence and not even remember it- that beer bottle sexual assault under the influence is completely possible imo. I don't consider the occasional drunken incident like that the same kind of sustained domestic abuse that people think of when they think of a battered wife, however. I don't believe that either of them were a battered spouse. I think the likeliest scenario is that Heard took revenge for a few incidents that happened to her by writing the article, and then Depp took revenge by claiming that she battered him and suing to take away her money.

 

[BadPinkTink]

I'm not seeking out info on Twitter but I'm seeing some things shared on my timeline. Its really interesting to see people breaking down and debunking various things she is saying in her testimony. Like how she details various incidents where he hurt her, yet there are photos from events the next day and she looks fine. Also people are taking her exact words from court testimony and showing it matches dialogue from various films.

 

[Disneylover99]

I wonder if Johnny now regrets filing the defamation suit to begin with.

Now their toxic relationship and dirty laundry is front and centre for the world to see. It feels like a no win for either of them at this point, to me anyways.

Amber comes across as scheming and manipulative and Johnny comes across as a drunk, drug-addled jerk.

 

[RUDisney]

I wonder if Johnny now regrets filing the defamation suit to begin with.

Now their toxic relationship and dirty laundry is front and centre for the world to see. It feels like a no win for either of them at this point, to me anyways.

Amber comes across as scheming and manipulative and Johnny comes across as a drunk, drug-addled jerk.

The upside for Johnny is that he is clean now, supposedly. Amber is a leopard with harder spots to change.

 

[Lilsia]

I don't get how the people on this thread (and elsewhere) are so sure about what did or didn't happen. This is all his word vs. hers, with no real eyewitnesses to abuse, and they obviously both have major issues. Johnny Depp was notorious for drunken/drug filled rages leading him to trash hotel rooms decades before he met Amber Heard. And Amber Heard obviously has issues of her own. I don't find either of them completely credible, but at the same time, I can't completely rule out either's testimony. I suspect that because Johnny Depp is much more famous and many people grew up watching him, they naturally sympathize with him over her. I find them both unsympathetic, and think it's impossible to know what happened. Their respective testimonies cancel each other out, their respective psychologists' testimonies cancel each other out, etc. At the end of the day, it's a matter of, who do you like more? A lot of people like Johnny more, or at least are much more familiar with him, so they assume he's the victim. I suspect there was some mutual violence fueled by drugs and mental illness, but again, it's impossible to really know.

If I were on the jury, I would not award either party any money.

It is not because "we like him more". I have listened to what was being said and the recordings, etc. She very much pushed his buttons and instigated things. She would start recording and then start picking at him when she knew that he was upset about something else. She constantly wanted to "trap" him to show that he is "violent". Who does that? Not to mention the amount of lies that she has been caught out on shows that she is a habitual liar. Nobody believes that Johnny is some kind of saint here, like you seem to think. But we see through her lies. I have known people like her. They are VERY good at manipulating, twisting things around, playing the victim, and getting people to believe them. They have no moral compass and have no problem ruining someone's life if they feel slighted by them. Anybody who has had experience with these types of people can see it immediately. And even if it was "mutual combat", she has no right to make it out as if she were the victim and he the only perpetrator, which is what she is trying to do. That alone makes her OpEd an issue. He very much should be awarded compensation for her lies. Oh, and he was battered. The amount of bruises and cuts that he has from her are well documented AND witnessed. She has zero marks on her.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

Is this trial on tv?

There are many YouTube streams.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

It is not because "we like him more". I have listened to what was being said and the recordings, etc. She very much pushed his buttons and instigated things. She would start recording and then start picking at him when she knew that he was upset about something else. She constantly wanted to "trap" him to show that he is "violent". Who does that? Not to mention the amount of lies that she has been caught out on shows that she is a habitual liar. Nobody believes that Johnny is some kind of saint here, like you seem to think. But we see through her lies. I have known people like her. They are VERY good at manipulating, twisting things around, playing the victim, and getting people to believe them. They have no moral compass and have no problem ruining someone's life if they feel slighted by them. Anybody who has had experience with these types of people can see it immediately. And even if it was "mutual combat", she has no right to make it out as if she were the victim and he the only perpetrator, which is what she is trying to do. That alone makes her OpEd an issue. He very much should be awarded compensation for her lies. Oh, and he was battered. The amount of bruises and cuts that he has from her are well documented AND witnessed. She has zero marks on her.

Yes, both she and the ACLU trotted her out as a spokesperson for domestic violence, even timing her op-Ed to coincide with the release of her movie for maximum exposure. Meanwhile she is very much a player and a perpetrator? That’s a lot of crap.
There are so many recordings of her mocking him, sneering at him, calling him names for trying to leave during fights. They are not difficult to find for anyone who wants to.

 

[kerry1379]

I don't get how the people on this thread (and elsewhere) are so sure about what did or didn't happen. This is all his word vs. hers, with no real eyewitnesses to abuse, and they obviously both have major issues. Johnny Depp was notorious for drunken/drug filled rages leading him to trash hotel rooms decades before he met Amber Heard. And Amber Heard obviously has issues of her own. I don't find either of them completely credible, but at the same time, I can't completely rule out either's testimony. I suspect that because Johnny Depp is much more famous and many people grew up watching him, they naturally sympathize with him over her. I find them both unsympathetic, and think it's impossible to know what happened. Their respective testimonies cancel each other out, their respective psychologists' testimonies cancel each other out, etc. At the end of the day, it's a matter of, who do you like more? A lot of people like Johnny more, or at least are much more familiar with him, so they assume he's the victim. I suspect there was some mutual violence fueled by drugs and mental illness, but again, it's impossible to really know.

If I were on the jury, I would not award either party any money.

For me, this case is exactly why there has to be proof to convict for abuse. I know this isn't a criminal case, but she seems to have no credible proof yet she has destroyed his career. There has to be some repurcussions for that-even if it is just money at this point.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

She did show pictures of herself with bruises on her face and a cut lip at the end of her testimony today. Not sure what to make of that.

Did you match her pictures with her testimony? She described him as out of control hitting and punching her (he always wears huge rings on his fingers so that would be even worse). She said she broke her nose. Her face should be a swollen mess if her story is true. Yet…..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522304491571265537

 

[jdb in AZ]

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

Thank you! I can’t believe that I haven’t gotten sucked into this long before now.

I am watching it on the Legal Bytes stream which I enjoy because a panel of lawyers (and sometimes a nurse or behavioral expert joins them) provides commentary during the frequent lulls when the lawyers go to sidebar. I was once a lawyer (not a trial lawyer though) and this satisfies that part of me that was so fascinated with the law even as I didn’t much like being a lawyer.

 

[Disneytrippin']

I don't get how the people on this thread (and elsewhere) are so sure about what did or didn't happen. This is all his word vs. hers, with no real eyewitnesses to abuse, and they obviously both have major issues. Johnny Depp was notorious for drunken/drug filled rages leading him to trash hotel rooms decades before he met Amber Heard. And Amber Heard obviously has issues of her own. I don't find either of them completely credible, but at the same time, I can't completely rule out either's testimony. I suspect that because Johnny Depp is much more famous and many people grew up watching him, they naturally sympathize with him over her. I find them both unsympathetic, and think it's impossible to know what happened. Their respective testimonies cancel each other out, their respective psychologists' testimonies cancel each other out, etc. At the end of the day, it's a matter of, who do you like more? A lot of people like Johnny more, or at least are much more familiar with him, so they assume he's the victim. I suspect there was some mutual violence fueled by drugs and mental illness, but again, it's impossible to really know.

If I were on the jury, I would not award either party any money.

I am sure of what I have been witness to watching during this trial and that without any evidence to support her claims Johnny is surely awarded his career back.

Amber Heard is such a bad actress she can't even play herself.