Jim Hill offering some details on Monsters Inc at WDW

[All Aboard]

Agree:
Tough to be a Bug
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Expedition Everst
Soarin
Animal Kingdom Lodge

Disagree:
Rock n' Rollercoaster
Buzz Lightyear
Test Track
Mission Space
The Boardwalk

Haven't Experienced:
The Wonder and Magic

 

[peter11435]

Agree:
Tough to be a Bug
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Expedition Everst
Soarin
Animal Kingdom Lodge

Disagree:
Rock n' Rollercoaster
Buzz Lightyear
Test Track
Mission Space
The Boardwalk

Haven't Experienced:
The Wonder and Magic

I agree with all of your agrees and disagrees except the Boardwalk. What is it you don't like about it.

 

[All Aboard]

I agree with all of your agrees and disagrees except the Boardwalk. What is it you don't like about it.

Didn't say that I didn't like it. I "like" all of the attractions under my disagree list. But, to me, what seperates them from the "agree" list is what Another Voice describes. The Boardwalk just doesn't fit into that category to me.

All purely opinion, of course.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Been to Expedition Everest yet?

No, I'm actually looking forward to that this year, partially because it's not some flash in the pan movie ride, but more so because I enjoy a good coaster.

Maybe you should try reading the link I provided, as it gives lots of good insights from the people who actually built the rides but since have left. I'm sorry you don't agree, but most of these new rides have no heart, and that's fact. They may provide a few minutes of thrill, but they will not stand the test of time like POTC, HM, SM, etc.

 

[MJMcBride]

Agree:
Tough to be a Bug
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Expedition Everst
Soarin
Animal Kingdom Lodge

Disagree:
Rock n' Rollercoaster
Buzz Lightyear
Test Track
Mission Space
The Boardwalk

Haven't Experienced:
The Wonder and Magic

I have to disagree with your disagreements w/ Test Track, Buzz, and the Boardwalk. I still think they should put a ferris wheel on the Boardwalk but thats just me. I agree they're all better than good and even "Wow". For some reason there are few posters who refuse to give any credit to any Disney ride created w/in the last 15 years. To me, they're like parents who refuse to accept that any good music has been made since 1969. They have been a few good songs, ya know.

 

[ChrisFL]

Agree:
Tough to be a Bug
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Expedition Everst
Soarin
Animal Kingdom Lodge

Disagree:
Rock n' Rollercoaster
Buzz Lightyear
Test Track
Mission Space
The Boardwalk

Haven't Experienced:
The Wonder and Magic

I think Rock'n'Roller Coaster does meet the Disney standards...it's basically a ride similar to Space Mountain, being an indoor rollercoaster, but the theming from the moment you enter, to seeing Aerosmith and going to the alley to catch your "Cadillac" is all themed very well. In ways it has an actual theme, or storyline that Space Mountain never had.

So I guess you could say that Space Mountain isn't magical either.

 

[dbm20th]

Maybe you should try reading the link I provided, as it gives lots of good insights from the people who actually built the rides but since have left. I'm sorry you don't agree, but most of these new rides have no heart, and that's fact. They may provide a few minutes of thrill, but they will not stand the test of time like POTC, HM, SM, etc.

What ex-imagineers have to say has absolutely zero influence on whether or not I enjoy and attraction, hotel, or cruise ship. But that blog is interesting, if not a bit one-sided. Thanks for the link!

 

[dbm20th]

I think Rock'n'Roller Coaster does meet the Disney standards...it's basically a ride similar to Space Mountain, being an indoor rollercoaster, but the theming from the moment you enter, to seeing Aerosmith and going to the alley to catch your "Cadillac" is all themed very well. In ways it has an actual theme, or storyline that Space Mountain never had.

So I guess you could say that Space Mountain isn't magical either.

Or Big Thunder for that matter. Test Track, Mission Space and Rock n' Rollercoaster all have way more theming and detail.

 

[BRERALEX]

BTMRR has great themeing. Your getting on the wildest ride in the West. The line area keeps you busy with the visuals. The old dudes voice over the speakers is classic Disney Extra. It's a run down town and your getting a tour via mine train.

I don't see how Test Track is anything other then a huge commercial. I get to go in a car with family member or complete strangers, if I single line it, and take a ride in a car!! That's hot. Then I go like what, 65 down a simulated highway, nice. It's like what I just did back home! Cool. I get to pay to do it at Epcot! People from LA fall asleep on Test Track. Terrible themeing if you can even call it that. I know we're supposed to be learning safety and automobile development but it's done in a tacky manner. It might have a story but it's kinda lame.

I'm on the fence with RnRRC. Can't make up my mind.

Space Mountain is Space Mountain. I can't compare SM to RnRRC. RnRRC puts up big neon signs to make you feel like your on a highway while Space Mountain uses special effects to make you feel like your in outer space. Space Mountain is unique.

RnRRC is like a six flags rollercoaster inside a building decorated brightly. It all works for me up until the end of the 'launch.' There the story goes from narrative to ACTION and then get off the ride. Space Mountain could have easily kicked you out into tommorrowland streets but no they decided to make a cool walkway with monitors and minature sets to keep you enthralled and in the moment.

what ex-imagineers have to say about rides helps me better understand rides and the differences and why something may work and why I spend at most 6 hours at some theme parks in a 7 day spand.

 

[dbm20th]

And here we are getting into what people like and don't like. I can have you talk to my wife who says BTMRR is cute, but not a very exciting ride. She considers RnR to be the best ride in WDW, because of the launch and the ride.

Again, to each his own. But I can not except someone telling me that there is not detail in RnR or Test Track. Is Test Track a commercial? I guess to some degree, but that is not a new idea at all. It is also an incredibly unique ride and one that is not very cost efficient for Disney

 

[BRERALEX]

You don't think there is more effort and imagination in Space Mountain then RnRRC objectively.

RnRRC you don't even get a have a nice day. Hurry up and get to the shop!!!

I don't see how getting in a car is unique. They take me through a cold room then a hot room. Come drive in Jersey. (edit oops your in Jersey.) Take a ride to Manhattan. Not too enthralling. Fun yes.

 

[MJMcBride]

You don't think there is more effort and imagination in Space Mountain then RnRRC objectively.

RnRRC you don't even get a have a nice day. Hurry up and get to the shop!!!

I don't see how getting in a car is unique. They take me through a cold room then a hot room. Come drive in Jersey. (edit oops your in Jersey.) Take a ride to Manhattan. Not too enthralling. Fun yes.

Its still interesting theming. Maybe you and I are used to it (being from NJ) but it was a neat plus to a coaster.

 

[dbm20th]

You don't think there is more effort and imagination in Space Mountain then RnRRC objectively.

RnRRC you don't even get a have a nice day. Hurry up and get to the shop!!!

I don't see how getting in a car is unique. They take me through a cold room then a hot room. Come drive in Jersey. (edit oops your in Jersey.) Take a ride to Manhattan. Not too enthralling. Fun yes.

Honestly, I have gotten over the "drop you off in the shop" thing a long time ago so that means nothing to me

No, I don't think there more effort in Space Mountain or BTMRR then RnR. I think it is about equal. For 2 reasons.

1. The que is not even comparable. BTMRR is a brutal cue, makes no attempt to break things up or even grace you with a air conditioner after a while. SM is better, but still not comparable to RnR.

2. The technology used in RnR is terrific, and only a few coasters use it. SM was the first in the dark, and that is great. But the ride technology is not all that terrific, even in the 70's. BTMRR is simply a cute coaster, though fun, fun, fun

But what you are doing is taking a ride upside down, in the dark, with an amazing take-off...through a city. I don't need to tell you that has little or nothing to do with what we experience in Manhattan or Jersey.

Again, to each his own. We are into opinions and not objectivity here. I don't think RnR is better then the 2 you mentioned, but certainly comparable.

 

[meowchi]

when Monsters, Inc. first came out, I pictured a ride similar to Peter Pan with the doors or some kind of roller coaster ride. I hope whatever they do will be enough to make me forget my dream.

 

[dbm20th]

when Monsters, Inc. first came out, I pictured a ride similar to Peter Pan with the doors or some kind of roller coaster ride. I hope whatever they do will be enough to make me forget my dream.

Thanks for bringing us back on topic

Of all the rumors I have heard regarding this potential attraction, this one that has the "Turtle Talk" feel seems to make the most sense, even if I don't find it all that exciting. TT is, from what I understand, completely crush, no pun intended, with guests and impossible to get in. The technology seems to be a big hit with kids, so putting in a much larger one in MK seems like a good match.

 

[flatline]

so how many more kid's attractions are we going to get in Tomorrowland? the last original idea WDI put in there was replaced by SGE. sure, Turtle Talk is popular. but why does that mean it's time to make a slightly different version, tie it to another Pixar movie and port it out to another park?

 

[Judge Fudge]

What ex-imagineers have to say has absolutely zero influence on whether or not I enjoy and attraction, hotel, or cruise ship. But that blog is interesting, if not a bit one-sided. Thanks for the link!

I'm not aiming to change your opinion. I just want this company to strive for things it had in the past. I don't know if when you visited the link the latest post about Everest was there, but they greatly praised it and said the lead imagineers really stuck to their guns and got exactly what they wanted from scouting trips to the himalayas and china, to the big animitronics.

The movie tie-ins bother me a lot, I guess just my opinion. Like the conversion to Stitch Encounter. Was that REALLY necessary? Seems to me like either a band-aid until they do something else, or a waste of resources. Alien Encounter was tired after a while, but still hoakie fun.

 

[MJMcBride]

so how many more kid's attractions are we going to get in Tomorrowland? the last original idea WDI put in there was replaced by SGE. sure, Turtle Talk is popular. but why does that mean it's time to make a slightly different version, tie it to another Pixar movie and port it out to another park?

Actually, I think more kids' rides are a good idea. Although, you're right about MK. They need them in the other parks.

 

[dbm20th]

I'm not aiming to change your opinion. I just want this company to strive for things it had in the past.

And you are certainly not alone. I am just not under the opinion that old always equals good. There are many attractions, such as the Timekeeper, that I found to be a "see-once" attraction. I've seen it, it wasn't all that terrific, and now it is time for something else. I am not a child, I have been to WDW for decades. I have seen some stinkers, or at least what I thought were stinkers.

Yes, the rate of good versus bad is worse now then in the past. Honestly, that was bound to happen sooner or later. But what I don't except is the notion that new equals bad. That is simply hogwash as far as I am concerned.

I know you are not trying change my opinion, and yes I do read that blog regularly. I feel things are turning around now, and EE is the watershed for that turn. Be hopeful and let's stop assuming that what will be new must be bad. Uncle Eisner is gone.

 

[dbm20th]

so how many more kid's attractions are we going to get in Tomorrowland?

This is the Magic Kingdom, right?