jeans at dinner?

[mwaldron]

Case in point, Rena75. You and your daughter look great....and absolutely appropriate for anything but the very dressiest of venues!

 

[Skylarr29]

OK well I just wanted to add that I agree Rena 75!!! I have jeans that cost $100.00's of dollars. Are you telling me that by wearing that with heels and a dressy shirt is not appropriate on casual night when it is allowed by Disney??? Some of you need to get over yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My dh and I are actually looking forward to dressing up.. we think that part of the fun but we sure as heck are not going to judge anyone else. Especially when dcl says it is ok to wear jeans.If you dont like it .... dont go ... or take it up with dcl and stop taking it out on people who are just following the SUGGESTED guidelines!!!!!!

And besides the point that this has nothing to do with what the op even asked. All they wanted know was IF people are wearing jeans.

 

[atakaratemom]

Next thing you know, we'll be knocking over liquor stores! LOL

 

[GhostlyHitchhiker]

Next thing you know, we'll be knocking over liquor stores! LOL
QUOTE]


Hmmm, judging from your attire and location, we expect to see you knocking over stores on Rodeo Drive. You've gone upscale.

 

[patche]

It would be a bit disappointing to us if people we were seated with were "dressed down".

Oiy....can one request "dressy" tablemates when booking? I do hope to find tablemates on our cruise that we can talk to, learn from, and have fun dinners with, regardless of how they are dressed....And I promise I won't be disappointed with either jeans, evening wear of traditional costumes...Might have to draw the line at no clothing though - it might make consentrating on the food a tad difficult...

112 days to our Land & Sea Vacation - one that we saved up for, the first one, not one of many, and one that I am planning to enjoy, no matter what my tablemates are going to wear!

 

[pearlieq]

My beef is not with the jeans but rather what it says about the person wearing them.

DCL allows jeans on casual nights. Not what I would have chosen, but I tolerate them, no problem.

What irks me are the "It's my vacation I'll do what I want, it's all about me and anyone who doesn't like it can sit on a tack" attitude of those who would choose to wear jeans on formal/semi-formal night. I don't dislike their jeans, I dislike their attitude and total disregard for the rule and the enjoyment of others. Why would I want to be stuck at a table with people like that? Don't you think that stubborn, inconsiderate, self-centered attitude would carry over into other aspects of their personality? I just don't get what's so hard about playing nicely with others and either conforming to the dress code or making alternate dining plans that night.

 

[Kim&Chris]

My beef is not with the jeans but rather what it says about the person wearing them.

DCL allows jeans on casual nights. Not what I would have chosen, but I tolerate them, no problem.

What irks me are the "It's my vacation I'll do what I want, it's all about me and anyone who doesn't like it can sit on a tack" attitude of those who would choose to wear jeans on formal/semi-formal night. I don't dislike their jeans, I dislike their attitude and total disregard for the rule and the enjoyment of others. Why would I want to be stuck at a table with people like that? Don't you think that stubborn, inconsiderate, self-centered attitude would carry over into other aspects of their personality? I just don't get what's so hard about playing nicely with others and either conforming to the dress code or making alternate dining plans that night.

I seriously doubt that jeans can do that to people (make them disrespectful, etc). Just like wearing dressy clothing doesn't make all people snobby, self-absorbed, arrogant, and judgemental.

 

[mrsltg]

I seriously doubt that jeans can do that to people (make them disrespectful, etc). Just like wearing dressy clothing doesn't make all people snobby, self-absorbed, arrogant, and judgemental.

You missed what she was saying by about a mile. It's not the jeans. It's not the manner of dress. It's the perception of "me me me - I can do what I want and I don't care what impact I have on others." As others have said, and myself included, DCL allows jeans. Fine. We don't agree with the decision. Fine. It bothers us though, that people don't seem to care how their actions will effect anyone else. For me, at least, it's a constant attitude that's becoming more and more pervasive in society.

Erin

 

[Kim&Chris]

I understand what you're saying, believe me!

I just don't understand why people are so bothered by the issue. I could understand if people started showing up for dinner looking like the Beverly Hillbillies, but I doubt that's the case.

I am going to bring dressier clothing on the cruise. But I'm also glad they now allow jeans. DCL's decision to allow jeans makes it so much easier for families to feel comfortable while cruising. It must be tough for some families with kids to bring dresses, suits, jackets, ties, shoes, etc for 3 or 4 kids. This makes it easier for them to enjoy the cruise without stressing out about clothing.

Have a nice day

 

[Mickeyhugger]

Thank you pearlieq and Mrsltg.

 

[Amberle3]

My whole "issue" with the thing, if you can call it that, is not so much the jeans but wondering about what comes next.

I'm not only a travel agent but I run multi-day tours as well. Believe me, you see all kinds on these things. There are no formal dress codes for the tours, but there are some people out there that will wear whatever they think they can get away with. I'm not necessarily talking provocative or skimpy clothes, I'm also talking worn/dirty/torn clothes. I had one guy on a tour that didn't change clothes at all for 4 days. His reasoning: He's on vacation, he has a right to dress as he pleases. It's THAT kind of attitude that worries me.

Disney has relaxed the "no jeans" rule, no doubt in response to complaints from people who feel they shouldn't have to put on a pair of regular pants to go to dinner because "it's their vacation". Okay, it's done, I can deal with that. It's not like someone wearing a nice pair of jeans to dinner is going to ruin my meal. But what about shorts? After all we're in the tropics, and jeans are now allowed... what about a pair of dressy shorts? And if shorts are okay, then why limit it to dressy ones? I can easily see it get to the point where people decide they can go straight to dinner from whatever previous activity they were doing (like basketball) without freshening up because hey... shorts are okay in the dining room...

Just because YOU might not ever do that doesn't mean that there aren't people out there that will constantly do whatever they can get away with.

I had a boyfriend once that refused to wear anything other than sweats in the evening - he wore a suit all day and felt that after 9-5 was HIS time, and he should wear whatever he wanted. It didn't matter where we went, he was going to wear his sweats. If he were on a Disney cruise, you can bet that he'd be trying to go to Formal night in his sweats too.

I know there are people out there who are terribly offended by the thought that there might be problem with wearing jeans to dinner. Again - it's not the jeans themselves that are the issue. Believe me until you've had to deal firsthand with someone who's been wearing the same clothes for 4 days just "because it's their vacation", you have no idea the things that some people (not most) will do with that premise as their mantra. And I personally have absolutely no desire to be stuck sitting at dinner with someone who's been wearing the same clothes for 4 days straight.

 

[oybolshoi]

I also find it interesting how the manner in which you dress affects your demeanor. Now, most of this stems from the industry I work in: finance.
It's a conservative, stuffy place most of the time and I've been working in it for almost 14 years. I've seen it run the gamut from strict business dress (skirts and dresses only for women, suits for men) to business casual and back to business.

What we have found is that people tend to relax their behavior and their standards when their dress is more casual. Obviously this is more of a concern in the business world than it is on vacation, but there is a part of me that believes there is some truth to it regardless of the setting.

Having said that, people should be able to wear whatever they choose based on the established DCL guidelines. Do I think jeans are appropriate for dinner? Nope - I think dinner is a more formal affair...otherwise why would they bring out the good china and have all those confusing utensil placements??

But someone bopping around in jeans during dinner isn't going to ruin my night. You wear your jeans and I'll wear my dress and we'll have a fine old time sailing on Mickey's boat.

Anyhoo...sailing on Saturday!! I'll be sure to include a fashioin segment in my trip report this year!!

Play nice, everybody - we're all from the same family!

B.

PS. Just wanted to add that I am aware that this post was a rather sweeping generalization...I am perfectly aware that it doesn't apply to everyone across the board and did not mean to imply that it did. Just wanted to share something that we've found in the different finance / banking venues I've worked in over the years. Thanks!

 

[anty30]

My husband has to wear a suit and tie to work everyday. The last thing he wants to do on vacation is get into another one. We always dress nice and stylish. We're from NY, we know how to be dressy. Will we wear jeans? No, but I know for certain my DH will not be wearing a suit. Will I be offended if someone chooses to wear jeans? No, because in their world that might be dressy. I could care less what others are wearing. I am on the cruise to enjoy quality time with my family and that is all that matters. We do not have the right to judge others. Let them be.

 

[logan1_2000]

And then put on Levis to watch DS' football game (victory, 39-6, they're 5-0).

So I have my snob component (admitted) and my slob component (also admitted).

So clearly this thread has spoken about the duality of man. and woman.

But it is enuf. Dayenu.
(If this last word is unfamiliar to you, find someone familiar with the Passover Haggadah and see if they can translate for you. And if they can't do the translation no matter how many Seders they've been to, that's probably the topic of another thread on another bulletin board, one that has to be read right to left).

 

[Henlady]

The only mode of dress that would bother me at mealtime is someone wearing a tank shirt and gym shorts. I'll dress up at least a little, because I believe attending a meal in public warrants that. I normally do not wear jeans to restaurants in our area. If you feel jeans in a nice restaurant is appropriate, that's up to you - whatever floats your boat.

Kris

 

[Mickeyhugger]

You said it Amrberle3!

And logan, please don't keep us in suspense. Tell us what it means!

 

[TheWog]

You said it Amrberle3!

And logan, please don't keep us in suspense. Tell us what it means!

Does it mean more butter for your popcorn kind sir wearing the tux????

 

[dharma517]

Can we have a "beating a dead horse" icon? I think we are all suffering from "diarrhea of the mouth" or would that be fingers?
Jenn

 

[logan1_2000]

(bad sign to be quoting Hannibal Lechter in the a.m.?)

and hurry, many of the people who might be able to answer your question about what it means might be leaving a bit early today and then will be observing a holiday tomorrow...don't give up so easy, someone will know...I'm not such a learned scholar of Hebrew that I know rare and obscure words or passages...

 

[TheWog]

Can we have a "beating a dead horse" icon? I think we are all suffering from "diarrhea of the mouth" or would that be fingers?
Jenn

:beatdeadh :sterb032: :duel: - didn't work