Janitor pushed DS. Updated pg. 4

[inaminute]

You're presenting a threat simply because your child was pushed and the wall blocked his fall.

And how many more 8 year old children do you suggest be pushed into a wall by an adult before it should be taken seriously?

I don't think I'd call the police, either. I would certainly hire a lawyer to protect my sons interests.

 

[shortbun]

Ask to have the reprimand put in the janitor's permanent file.
It could have been an accident that requires an apology as
you have requested BUT it should go in his file in case he has
a habit of these kinds of accidents, now or later.


I just read your update. It will be in his file if a union rep is
involved. They are taking it very seriously when this kind of
meeting takes place this quickly. I'm thinking it's a legal issue
for them not to divulge the nature of the meeting. You know a
reprimand has been issued. Give them one day to resolve things
and if you get no satisfaction-definitely call one or all of the
recommended resources.

 

[eeyore kelly]

They are taking it very seriously when this kind of meeting takes place this quickly.

ITA!! I work very closely with the school system here, and my mom is a Teacher's aide. When I told her about this post, and the meeting taking place this quickly, she thinks her will at the very least get unpaid suspension. She thinks it is more likely that he will be fired. Call your principal tomorrow for an update, and ask her what measures she/he is taking to keep your child safe from this man. Ask if this is the first time an incident has happened involving this man. ask what reprecussions this man will have that is work related. If you call the cops or a lawyer it becomes a legal matter that they will not comment on.

IMHO, if you stay on top of this matter, and not lawyer up, they will work with you better.

I personally would want as much info as I could get, and if and until communications break down, I would work with the system.

 

[CRB#33]

The bottom line in all of this is that your son was pushed by an adult and made to fall over. If you pushed your son in the mall and he fell over because he lost his balance, there would be half a dozen people on you calling you an abusive parent. There is no difference here.

We are taught as teachers that we have to think twice before we even hug a child. This man pushed one. He should not be allowed anywhere near children.

It could be that you are the instrument to make sure this happens. Good luck and I'm glad your son is okay.

 

[Pete's Mom]

Does anyone know WHY the janitor pushed him?

 

[Chattyaholic]

I'm wondering the same thing as Pete's Mom

I skimmed the thread and I think it was asked before, but I haven't seen where the OP said WHY the janitor pushed him. I would want to hear from the JANITOR before I made any threats or accusations...

 

[Trish5768]

Mr. X was trying to bring a trash can through the lunch line. My son was standing in the lunch line, Mr. X pushed son and said something to the effect of get on the left side. As I stated before, the principal said Nicholas had done absolutely nothing wrong.

Nothing is real clear, as I"m not privy to any information, other than what DS and principal have told me. Yes, I have talked to others but apparently that does not matter.

I'm sorry to have caused such a stir here on the DIS. I do thank you all for your opinions. I will keep you posted if and when I get more info.

 

[CRB#33]

Originally posted by Pete's Mom
Does anyone know WHY the janitor pushed him?

There are very few reasons why this could be even remotely accpetable.

1. He pushed the child to keep him from some kind of harm.
2. He pushed the child to get to someone else who is in harms way.
3. He pushed the child to keep the child from attacking him. And I will have to say, I work with emotionally disturbed and autistic children and pushing these children is usually unacceptable regardless.

I can't think of any more right now and it doesn't sound like any of these are an issue. The child should not have been touched.

And now that I see Trish's answer, I'm trying to figure out why she is apologizing. This man should be out of any school. It's just so wrong.

 

[Keli]

You know, I can see why the principal called this 'moving' your ds and yet it is still pushing at the same time. Before your last post I had really been thinking the principal was covering up something but that makes it clearer for me. Doesn't change the facts but I understand how she could have called it 'moving' (since that was the goal of the janitor, he probably had no intention of knocking your ds over) and your ds call it pushing and yet both be correct. But it appears that the janitor used too much force in moving him and depending on your school's policy (and common sense IMHO) shouldn't have touched him at all while trying to get him to move over. I guess I don't think this incident should cost the janitor his job, it doesn't sound like the intent to harm your ds was there but he should have this in his permant file. I think it would be good for the janitor to explain to your ds that he didn't mean to knock him over and that it was an accident.

 

[Serena]

I'm curious to how the union and the school handles this.
I would be upset if this was a child pushing another child, but that happens sometimes. It is a whole another thing having an adult push a child. And it sounds like it was totally unwarranted.
I'm just guessing here, but you could cause a big stink about this, and I think that's what they are afraid of. I think they are hoping you cool off and know that they aren't taking it lightly. They have set up that meeting, they are letting you know it. They want you to know they are doing something about what happened.

I think that you are holding all the marbles here. The union knows full well what your options are and are probably trying to do what they can do avoid the worst of it. You haven't done anything alarming yet, and that probably gives them hope that the media and police may not become involved if they handle it right.

It wouldn't hurt you to contact a lawyer to find out what those options are, especially if you don't get the answers or response you need and deserve.



I'm glad your son is alright.

 

[holycow]

Move or a push....doesn't matter here...he layed hands on her child and whether it was meant as a move or a push...give me a break!
Why didn't the janitor just say....hey kids can you all move to this side so I can get through?....there shouldn't have been any contact with anyone...and working with children....come on....some of these people have major attitudes and are not sensitive to children and quite frankly just don't care....Just like this janitor...pushed him in the abdomen???? He could have touched his shoulder or his back and said...could you move please?


These things just make me boil!


Holycow