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[kwelch10377]

just a side note to this:


read the book... the movie cuts out the final chapter, which (to me) is the whole point of the story....

What movie is the OP talking about??

 

[KathyTX]

When does accepting end.

Seriously?????

 

[Guy Incognito]

What movie is the OP talking about??

A Clockwork Orange


the movie was based on the Americanized version of the book (by Anthony Burgess), in which the U.S. editors convinced him to drop the final chapter. When Kubrick was making the movie, he claimed he hadn't known about the cut chapter, and didn't include it in the movie. The intact version of the book was later released in the U.S.

 

[Aisling]

Originally Posted by kwelch10377 View Post
I wonder if the people that think boy + nail polish = gay also think girl + no nail polish = lesbian???


I don't think that a boy + nail polish = gay

BUT I DO think that pink nail polish on a man = he looks feminine whether he's gay or not, and I would NOT want my husband wearing pink nail polish. In my world, straight men do not wear pink nail polish. I don't care if they think it looks nice or if it's their favorite color. If I saw a man I knew was straight with pink nail polish on, I'd think he was wacky.

How many of you would be ok with your men wearing red or pink nail polish to work or even just around the house? How many honest Disers are here?

 

[MoonFaerie]

Originally Posted by kwelch10377 View Post
I wonder if the people that think boy + nail polish = gay also think girl + no nail polish = lesbian???


I don't think that a boy + nail polish = gay

BUT I DO think that pink nail polish on a man = he looks feminine whether he's gay or not, and I would NOT want my husband wearing pink nail polish. In my world, straight men do not wear pink nail polish. I don't care if they think it looks nice or if it's their favorite color. If I saw a man I knew was straight with pink nail polish on, I'd think he was wacky.

How many of you would be ok with your men wearing red or pink nail polish to work or even just around the house? How many honest Disers are here?

The only reason I'd care is if wearing it to work could get him fired. Otherwise, why would I care? I'd care much much more if he decided he needed a beard. *shudder* He already wears man jewelry, so what's a little nail polish added to the mix?

 

[kwelch10377]

Originally Posted by kwelch10377 View Post
I wonder if the people that think boy + nail polish = gay also think girl + no nail polish = lesbian???


I don't think that a boy + nail polish = gay

BUT I DO think that pink nail polish on a man = he looks feminine whether he's gay or not, and I would NOT want my husband wearing pink nail polish. In my world, straight men do not wear pink nail polish. I don't care if they think it looks nice or if it's their favorite color. If I saw a man I knew was straight with pink nail polish on, I'd think he was wacky.

How many of you would be ok with your men wearing red or pink nail polish to work or even just around the house? How many honest Disers are here?

I honestly would not care and I am not going to tell him that he can't. I don't think it is my place to tell my BF what he wears or what he can and can't do to his body. I don't even think I would notice if it was some random person. I am not that most observant person.

I do think the issue here is more letting young boys do this and not male adults, since letting a young boy do this is seen as confusing them as what gender roles are.

 

[rie'smom]

Originally Posted by kwelch10377 View Post
I wonder if the people that think boy + nail polish = gay also think girl + no nail polish = lesbian???


I don't think that a boy + nail polish = gay

BUT I DO think that pink nail polish on a man = he looks feminine whether he's gay or not, and I would NOT want my husband wearing pink nail polish. In my world, straight men do not wear pink nail polish. I don't care if they think it looks nice or if it's their favorite color. If I saw a man I knew was straight with pink nail polish on, I'd think he was wacky.

How many of you would be ok with your men wearing red or pink nail polish to work or even just around the house? How many honest Disers are here?

My husband is the boss so he can wear nail polish if he wants to do so. If wearing nail polish makes the man happy, I'll give him a full manicure.

 

[Aisling]

I honestly would not care and I am not going to tell him that he can't. I don't think it is my place to tell my BF what he wears or what he can and can't do to his body. I don't even think I would notice if it was some random person. I am not that most observant person.

I do think the issue here is more letting young boys do this and not male adults, since letting a young boy do this is seen as confusing them as what gender roles are.

Ok, I see I'm confusing the issue.

I just feel that if it's ok for little boys to wear pink nail polish, why is it odd for men to wear it. But I think i may be the only person here on the Dis that would strongly object to my husband wearing pink nail polish and I'd tell him so. Pink nail polish on a man does = gay to me, or at the very least odd. And I didn't marry an odd or gay man, I don't want to be married to an odd or gay man, so the nail polish comes off.

It's ok if I'm the only one who wouldn't be ok with their husband wearing nail polish.
But ask your man if he'd wear pink nail polish. I'm thinking he'd say hell no. If he doesn't, fine. He's your man, not mine.

 

[Aisling]

If wearing nail polish makes the man happy, I'll give him a full manicure.

If wearing pink nail polish made my husband happy, I'd call a therapist. And then I'd be checking my underwear drawer to see if any of my lace bras and panties are missing.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Oh! Phew, I was getting worried. Thank goodness cricket isn't very popular in the US, so I should be safe.

Or maybe pink+boys+nail polish=cricket players

Oh no. My teenaged son was playing cricket this afternoon. He didn't like it, though - maybe that's a sign he's a hetero.

 

[Sarah_Rose]

It's ok if I'm the only one who wouldn't be ok with their husband wearing nail polish.
But ask your man if he'd wear pink nail polish. I'm thinking he'd say hell no. If he doesn't, fine. He's your man, not mine.

I also didn't marry a man who wears nail polish and I'm quite ok with that. However, I did give birth to a son who is entirely his own person and I will love and accept him, no matter his preferences or sexuality. I chose my husband, but I did not choose my son. He may like pink, or choose to wear nail polish, or be straight, or gay, or a football player. Any way, he is my son and I will love him.

My 8 month old son likes to sit in my closet and play with my strappy heels. That has as much bearing on his sexuality as a preschooler choosing to paint his nails pink.

 

[kwelch10377]

Ok, I see I'm confusing the issue.

I just feel that if it's ok for little boys to wear pink nail polish, why is it odd for men to wear it. But I think i may be the only person here on the Dis that would strongly object to my husband wearing pink nail polish and I'd tell him so. Pink nail polish on a man does = gay to me, or at the very least odd. And I didn't marry an odd or gay man, I don't want to be married to an odd or gay man, so the nail polish comes off.

It's ok if I'm the only one who wouldn't be ok with their husband wearing nail polish.
But ask your man if he'd wear pink nail polish. I'm thinking he'd say hell no. If he doesn't, fine. He's your man, not mine.

I just asked him and he said that he wouldn't wear pink because since pink clothes don't look good on him, he doesn't think pink nail polish would. He said he would wear blue since it matches the logo of his business. He also said he would never do it, because he is too lazy to take the time to paint his nails and then wait for them to dry. And that wasn't an excuse, he really is too lazy to do it.

He owns a martial arts school and is an athlete and said that he is seeing more and more guys that he competes with wearing nail polish. He also said there was some pro fighter who said they wear it.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Originally Posted by kwelch10377 View Post
I wonder if the people that think boy + nail polish = gay also think girl + no nail polish = lesbian???


I don't think that a boy + nail polish = gay

BUT I DO think that pink nail polish on a man = he looks feminine whether he's gay or not, and I would NOT want my husband wearing pink nail polish. In my world, straight men do not wear pink nail polish. I don't care if they think it looks nice or if it's their favorite color. If I saw a man I knew was straight with pink nail polish on, I'd think he was wacky.

How many of you would be ok with your men wearing red or pink nail polish to work or even just around the house? How many honest Disers are here?

I wouldn't care if he wore it around the house. I'd think it was kinda cool - artsy. At work? I wouldn't "care," but I think the guys he works with might tease him about it. He's a big boy, though, and can handle it.

 

[Aisling]

I also didn't marry a man who wears nail polish and I'm quite ok with that. However, I did give birth to a son who is entirely his own person and I will love and accept him, no matter his preferences or sexuality. I chose my husband, but I did not choose my son. He may like pink, or choose to wear nail polish, or be straight, or gay, or a football player. Any way, he is my son and I will love him.

My 8 month old son likes to sit in my closet and play with my strappy heels. That has as much bearing on his sexuality as a preschooler choosing to paint his nails pink.

I agree with you on the bolded. If my son is gay, he's gay and I'd treat him with the same love that I would a hetero son.

When my sons were toddlers, I thought it was cute when they put on my heels and try to walk around. If they were 6 or 7, I'd tell them those shoes are for girls, go put on daddy's shoes. If he felt compelled to continue wearing my shoes, I'd begin to wonder if he were gay, and if it turned out true, I'd accept it because I love my sons. But I personally believe in teaching my sons that high strappy heels are for girls and then see where it takes us.

And I'll even hang myself by saying I'm glad my sons aren't gay.

 

[disfan07]

Oh...and OP...by the way, in your first post you said you don't consider yourself close minded....you might want to rethink that.....

 

[topolino]

You know, some of the piling on here is getting a little disturbing. I can't help but think about how easy it is to do so from the safety and anonymity of your home, which is hundreds, if not thousands of miles away from the rest of us.

I also think that it's really easy to create an online persona under those conditions, that might be a little more open minded and accepting than the actual user.

Those of you who are okay with little boys wearing pink nail polish, let me ask you this: would you allow him to wear it to school? Isn't the problem with bullying serious enough now, for kids who dress in a way that is considered mainstream? How about a dress? Would you let your boy wear a dress to school? Ah...I thought not. Maybe we really aren't quite as open minded as our online personas now, are we?

I'm not sure how so many people in one thread are so accepting of this. I am friendly with a lot of men in my circle of friends, and most of them are very tolerant and open minded. I'm pretty safe in assuming, however, that not even one of them would wear pink nail polish in public. Not even one.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Two things:

Basic gender identity is usually determined by age 3.

Gender identity does not determine sexual orientation.

So even if your seven year old says he feels like a girl and loves to wear your heels, it doesn't mean he's gay. He may be, but he also may be heterosexual.

 

[Liberty Belle]

You know, some of the piling on here is getting a little disturbing. I can't help but think about how easy it is to do so from the safety and anonymity of your home, which is hundreds, if not thousands of miles away from the rest of us.

I also think that it's really easy to create an online persona under those conditions, that might be a little more open minded and accepting than the actual user.

Those of you who are okay with little boys wearing pink nail polish, let me ask you this: would you allow him to wear it to school? Isn't the problem with bullying serious enough now, for kids who dress in a way that is considered mainstream? How about a dress? Would you let your boy wear a dress to school? Ah...I thought not. Maybe we really aren't quite as open minded as our online personas now, are we?

I'm not sure how so many people in one thread are so accepting of this. I am friendly with a lot of men in my circle of friends, and most of them are very tolerant and open minded. I'm pretty safe in assuming, however, that not even one of them would wear pink nail polish in public. Not even one.

Yes, I'd let him wear pink nail polish to school, but I'd explain first that he may get teased about it (and what he should do if he is). A dress? I'd discourage it, but if it really was an integral part of who he was, then I'd let him. I'd do what I could to make him feel comfortable and happy.

Btw - no need to be a jerk.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

Those of you who are okay with little boys wearing pink nail polish, let me ask you this: would you allow him to wear it to school? Isn't the problem with bullying serious enough now, for kids who dress in a way that is considered mainstream? How about a dress? Would you let your boy wear a dress to school? Ah...I thought not. Maybe we really aren't quite as open minded as our online personas now, are we?

Wouldn't bother me at all but then again I was part of my schools drama department and seeing straight boys in makeup and wearing dresses was a normal occurrence.

 

[KathyTX]

Time to close this one, but I want to leave with a small public service announcement:

We have a pretty low tolerance for homophobia here.