It's Obama/Biden!

[TheGoofster]

I don't think we will really know why she wasn't picked for VP.

We just might find out next week why she wasn't picked. Could be really interesting.

you are

 

[transparant]

you are

 

[pr surfer]

I am bias, I am voting for McCain. I refuse to vote for an extreme liberal like Obama.

I am biased too, I am voting for Obama-Biden.

I refuse to vote for ANY conservative in light of the past 7 years.

 

[pr surfer]

Actually, I'd vote for Lucifer before I'd vote for a Republican.

You can't though. He's already the VP

 

[TheGoofster]

You can't though. He's already the VP

Sorry, trying to rehash a good joke just doesn't cut it.
Pop Daddy - 1
Dems - 0

 

[McRed]

One reason for picking Biden was that he would help BHO in Pennsylvania, since Biden is from Scranton. Since when did a democrat nominee NEED help in winning PA??? The answer is: since the democrat nominee called Pennsylvania voters "Bitter, and cling to their guns and religion."
Dick Morris had a very interesting point last night. Polls show that Obama has a 2 point lead amoung women voters. That's it??? ANY democrat nominee should have at least a double-digit lead over McCain with that segment. That should make McCain think long and hard about getting Alaska Gov. Palin to be his running mate.
I also heard on MSNBC last night that BHO should be getting a good "Bounce" in the polls coming out of the Denver Convention. The reasoning there was that Obama would be getting lots of "positive media coverage for a solid week." Really!! BHO has gotten nothing but "positive media coverage" this whole political cycle. And what has it gotten him?...a national lead between 3-4% points. The media sponge is already saturated with love for Obama, and you can't put much more in and expect the electorate be swayed further.

 

[pr surfer]

Sorry, trying to rehash a good joke just doesn't cut it.
Pop Daddy - 1
Dems - 0

It's only funny if you're a dem.

Personally, it's hilarious

Pop Daddy - 0
PR Surfer - 1

 

[bsnyder]

Not really. Many Hillary supporters want to vote for her as POTUS, not VP, there are many on the Rep. side who hate her with a passion, she was polling worse vs. McCain than Obama was, and for those who are full of glee over Biden's previous comments about Obama--compare Biden campaign sound clips to Hillary's.

The poll numbers I've seen lately have indicated just the opposite, that she is polling better than Obama, over McCain.

And yes, I realize many supporters want her to be POTUS not VP, but I think the majority are ticked that it appears like she wasn't ever even considered. Let's face it, Biden isn't a perfect pick (and McCain doesn't have one either), so that widens the field and would mean he would consider quite a number of politicians. It doesn't appear that she even made Obama's larger list. And the only reason for that would of ego, no? (His, and possibly also hers).

The whole suspense thing yesterday just revisted the Hillary as VP, writ large. It was talked about non-stop and even after the news started whittling it down to Biden, some of the pro-Hilary people (in the blogosphere) kept hoping it was a head-fake, and he'd end up naming her with the text message. Obama would have been better off to squash the consideration of Hilary weeks ago - he could have given a nice speech praising her to the skies, etc., rather than let her supporters keep that "hope" alive up until the very last minute. The fact that he sent the txt message at 3:00 a.m. just rubbed salt in the wound.

 

[Planogirl]

The poll numbers I've seen lately have indicated just the opposite, that she is polling better than Obama, over McCain.

And yes, I realize many supporters want her to be POTUS not VP, but I think the majority are ticked that it appears like she wasn't ever even considered. Let's face it, Biden isn't a perfect pick (and McCain doesn't have one either), so that widens the field and would mean he would consider quite a number of politicians. It doesn't appear that she even made Obama's larger list. And the only reason for that would of ego, no? (His, and possibly also hers).

The whole suspense thing yesterday just revisted the Hillary as VP, writ large. It was talked about non-stop and even after the news started whittling it down to Biden, some of the pro-Hilary people (in the blogosphere) kept hoping it was a head-fake, and he'd end up naming her with the text message. Obama would have been better off to squash the consideration of Hilary weeks ago - he could have given a nice speech praising her to the skies, etc., rather than let her supporters keep that "hope" alive up until the very last minute. The fact that he sent the txt message at 3:00 a.m. just rubbed salt in the wound.

I'm a HS and I admit that I'm ticked. I wasn't sure if I wanted her to be VP but her not even being considered is a slam to her and her supporters IMO. But what else can I expect? It's been like that for a long time.

I'm still going to support the party but they sure do make it hard.

 

[duckfan78]

What it proves is that Barack Obama is flexible, interested in all opinions and will be a wonderful POTUS! Much better than George Rigid Bush who has no idea how to listen or learn from anyone who might have something to say. McCain is cut from the same cloth as Bush. While Obama and Biden will have a partnership the likes of Clinton/Gore, McCain and his running mate will likely have a very staid campaign, just like the old men before them with McCain being 'the Decider.' Uglch.
McCain's campaign slogan should be "Four more years!"

All it shows is that BO says one thing about McCain. "that is his too much of a DC insider", then he goes and picks a DC insider as his vp choice.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[TheGoofster]

It's only funny if you're a dem.

Personally, it's hilarious

Pop Daddy - 0
PR Surfer - 1

Oops, arguing over a dead joke, that's -1 point, and having to laugh at your own joke (never a good thing -2)
so now the final standing is:

Pop Daddy - +1
Dems (represented by PR Surfer) - -3

 

[Laura]

The poll numbers I've seen lately have indicated just the opposite, that she is polling better than Obama, over McCain.

And yes, I realize many supporters want her to be POTUS not VP, but I think the majority are ticked that it appears like she wasn't ever even considered. Let's face it, Biden isn't a perfect pick (and McCain doesn't have one either), so that widens the field and would mean he would consider quite a number of politicians. It doesn't appear that she even made Obama's larger list. And the only reason for that would of ego, no? (His, and possibly also hers).

The whole suspense thing yesterday just revisted the Hillary as VP, writ large. It was talked about non-stop and even after the news started whittling it down to Biden, some of the pro-Hilary people (in the blogosphere) kept hoping it was a head-fake, and he'd end up naming her with the text message. Obama would have been better off to squash the consideration of Hilary weeks ago - he could have given a nice speech praising her to the skies, etc., rather than let her supporters keep that "hope" alive up until the very last minute. The fact that he sent the txt message at 3:00 a.m. just rubbed salt in the wound.

I haven't bothered to look at any Hillary/McCain polls lately. Frankly, I didn't think they were still doing any. You'll have to point me to them. During the primary she was polling worse than Obama vs. McCain. This is the last I've seen:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html

How do you know she was never even considered as VP? I believe there's conflicting evidence on that. But like I said, we don't know why she wasn't chosen, maybe if she was never considered it was because she may have made it clear she wanted the top spot only. Maybe Obama thought she made it quite clear that she wouldn't want to join him on the ticket.

Some pro-Hillary people have been talking about her being picked for quite a while, and honestly some of her people out there on the blogosphere are a little nutso--they still think she's taking the nomination during the convention. Knowing the decision would come this weekend meant nothing more than extra chatter about it. A lot of names have been thrown around this week.

 

[agentpleakley]

I haven't bothered to look at any Hillary/McCain polls lately. Frankly, I didn't think they were still doing any. You'll have to point me to them. During the primary she was polling worse than Obama vs. McCain. This is the last I've seen:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html

How do you know she was never even considered as VP? I believe there's conflicting evidence on that. But like I said, we don't know why she wasn't chosen, maybe if she was never considered it was because she may have made it clear she wanted the top spot only. Maybe Obama thought she made it quite clear that she wouldn't want to join him on the ticket.


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I do recall that the final polls before Obama "secured" the nomination showed Clinton ahead of McCain. I'm not going to try to find some polls from 3 months ago, however.

I also just heard as recently as yesterday that Clinton was not vetted by the Obama campaign evidenced by the fact that no documents were requested from her, etc. I can't remember where I saw this - but I'm sure I'm not making this up. I'll try to find it. I found this http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12713.html - but I think I actually heard it on the news.

 

[DISUNC]

I haven't bothered to look at any Hillary/McCain polls lately. Frankly, I didn't think they were still doing any. You'll have to point me to them. During the primary she was polling worse than Obama vs. McCain. This is the last I've seen:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html

Hart adds, “The Hillary Clinton campaign may be over, but the Clinton factor remains an important part of the election.”

It’s also worth noting that while Obama leads McCain by three points in the poll, Clinton edges the Republican by six points in a hypothetical match up, 49 to 43 percent.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26314990/

 

[j's m]

I guess most of you are too young to remember when Biden tried to get elected the first time. He was caught plagiarizing. It's barely mentioned now and I believe no one on this thread even mentioned it.

Is that no longer important? To me, that emphasizes his morals: None.

How many of you Obama supporters are teachers? Can any of you still support him? What do you tell your students? That it's ok for a VP, but not a student?

 

[Barbossa]

Biden works for me!

 

[marybet]

You can't though. He's already the VP

I truly LOL at this!!! I'm giving you 10 points for getting it right!

 

[Barbossa]

You can't though. He's already the VP

Nah. Cheney is Lucifer's boss!

 

[marybet]

I guess most of you are too young to remember when Biden tried to get elected the first time. He was caught plagiarizing. It's barely mentioned now and I believe no one on this thread even mentioned it.

Is that no longer important? To me, that emphasizes his morals: None.

How many of you Obama supporters are teachers? Can any of you still support him? What do you tell your students? That it's ok for a VP, but not a student?

It has been mentioned but not in detail. Maybe it falls in the same category as McCain cheating on his first wife, or his involvement in the Keating 5. Everyone makes mistakes, which ones are the most important are left up to the voter.

 

[duckfan78]

I guess most of you are too young to remember when Biden tried to get elected the first time. He was caught plagiarizing. It's barely mentioned now and I believe no one on this thread even mentioned it.

Is that no longer important? To me, that emphasizes his morals: None.

How many of you Obama supporters are teachers? Can any of you still support him? What do you tell your students? That it's ok for a VP, but not a student?

I would like to hear an answer to this if anyone has one.