It's Obama/Biden!

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Ok! now we have a good, solid ticket!!! It's gonna hurt the Senate when these two are elected. Biden was my 2nd choice. I'm happy!
 
Uggh, Biden was on my LONG list. He is such a putz.(this coming from a 30 yr Delaware resident)

Now I really have to think about my vote.
 
The only problem I have with Biden is his age. I think he will be too old for President if Obama goes 2 terms and we have another primary.
 

Biden is an excellent choice, not that the VP has much pull historically speaking with the exception of course of one Mr Dick Cheney. Having said that I think Biden is a great choice considering the other options out there. I feel as though his political track record speaks for itself both positively and negatively, but at least he has a track record to fall back on during the VP debates and can only make Obama look legitimate. Great choice but look out for the Clinton circus and the convention I am still not convinced that she has put her aspirations aside I feel a powerplay coming on that will divide the party.
 
I believe this pretty much loses Obama the election for sure.

Biden has a big mouth and says alot of stupid things that offend people, like he has done already.

Also, he has said on TV that if he was to lose to John McCain in the election he knows he lost to a good person, who is his friend and has the skills to be a good president.

Lastly, I believe not chosing Hillary is a huge mistake. I am no supporter of Obama at all(as seen in my sig), however I can tell you that without clinton, he is going to lose.
 
Biden may be the best of the final three. He definitely adds foreign policy expertise to the ticket, an area where Obama is lacking. On the downside, he does tend to speak before he thinks at times and having been in the Senate for 36 years he doesn't exactly represent "change".

Overall, I think he may help in that he doesn't hurt the ticket too much (as long as he keeps his mouth in check, that is).
 
I was laughing when he picked Biden, Biden is such good friends wtih McCain this should be really interesting

Biden, is going to have lots of explaining to do with all of this critism of Obama.
 
I believe this pretty much loses Obama the election for sure.

Biden has a big mouth and says alot of stupid things that offend people, like he has done already.

Also, he has said on TV that if he was to lose to John McCain in the election he knows he lost to a good person, who is his friend and has the skills to be a good president.

Lastly, I believe not chosing Hillary is a huge mistake. I am no supporter of Obama at all(as seen in my sig), however I can tell you that without clinton, he is going to lose.

:rolleyes:
 
I believe this pretty much loses Obama the election for sure.

Biden has a big mouth and says alot of stupid things that offend people, like he has done already.

Also, he has said on TV that if he was to lose to John McCain in the election he knows he lost to a good person, who is his friend and has the skills to be a good president.

Lastly, I believe not chosing Hillary is a huge mistake. I am no supporter of Obama at all(as seen in my sig), however I can tell you that without clinton, he is going to lose.

I agree. The chips are falling in the right direction! ;) Its a perfect ticket; A "stuffed shirt" to go with an "empty suit".
 
I'm not impressed.

McCain can get my vote just by selecting a VP who isn't going to try to legislate his religious beliefs onto me. That's all it will take to get my vote.
 
The Biden pick's a safe one. The polls are showing the candidates running close, so I wouldn't expect either candidate to make any wild moves. I think the Biden choice makes Tim Pawlenty a lock for McCain.
 
Halperin on Biden: The Pros and the Cons

Saturday, Aug. 23, 2008 By BY MARK HALPERIN Alex Wong / GettyArticle
Buzz Throughout Barack Obama's search for a running mate, Joe Biden has always been hiding in plain sight, a man who appears supremely qualified to be vice president of the United States.

Biden has been on the national stage so long that he was able to mount two credible runs for the presidency himself an amazing 20 years apart, in 1988 and 2008. He has served as chairman of both the Judiciary Committee and the Foreign Relations Committee, traveling the globe to meet world leaders and to be directly involved in almost every major international and domestic debate of the last two generations. He has excelled as both a speaker and a debater. His Irish-Catholic heritage makes him a demographic dream in appealing to swing voters. He is both a Washington insider and a hero to working-class Americans and labor union leaders, in part because of his rhetoric, but also because of his own middle class upbringing. He has mastered the art of the network Sunday show television appearance as well as the classic vice-presidential skill of savagely attacking his political opponents with both a smile and the use of casual, kitchen-table idioms.

Balanced against all of those unmatched qualifications is one quality that has afflicted Biden for as long as anyone can remember: a persistent tendency to say silly, offensive, and off-putting things. Over the next few days (and, likely, weeks) some of Biden's ungreatest hits of gab will be recycled by the media and Republicans aiming to take the luster off Obama's choice of running mate. The central mystery for those who have watched Biden over the years is this: how could someone so smart, experienced, and articulate be his own worst enemy by saying just the wrong thing at just the wrong moment?

Beyond the verbal gaffes during both of his presidential campaigns, Biden stunned his supporters, and delighted his opponents, during the Supreme Court confirmation hearings of John Robert and Sam Alito, President Bush's conservative nominees for the high court. In preparing for the public sessions, Biden's advisers warned him repeatedly not to let his verbose ways dominate the proceedings. Be crisp and clear and concise, they told him over and over during practice sessions. And yet when the lights and cameras were on, Biden was at his very worst — long-winded, self-involved, and off message.

Surely, as the Obama campaign unveils Biden to the world, they are little concerned about his ability to surmount the primary hurdle that any potential vice president must get over, that Biden is ready to be president from day one by virture of experience, temperament, and judgment. But the campaign will just as certainly be coaching him on his initial speeches and media appearances. Once again, Joe Biden will be told to keep it short and limit the use of the pronoun "I."

Those who know Biden well, who have watched him and worked with him over the years in the Senate and on the campaign trail, know two things with absolute certainty. One, it will be exceedingly difficult for Biden to carry out those instructions. And, two, if he is able to do as he is told regarding his renegade mouth, he will be a smash hit as Obama's running mate.

:goodvibes :thumbsup2
 
Well, I can't say I'm thrilled with the choice. As a democrat this is not the dream ticket I had hoped for when the candidates started out two years ago...Obama was my second choice. Okay...I can live with him. But Biden was my third pick out of the final three.

Having said that...I disagree with pp about this losing the election for Obama. I have a friend who works for a Republican think tank in DC. He says the word around DC is pretty much that McCain doesn't have a chance. Repbublican insiders are also bracing for double digit loses of Congressional seats.

I agree with other pp--if I were the McCain camp I would hammer Biden at every turn about "change."
 
True, but quite frankly, Obama's VP pick was never going to be very important. The whole election is going to come down to McCain's pick.
 
True, but quite frankly, Obama's VP pick was never going to be very important. The whole election is going to come down to McCain's pick.

I agree with that sentiment 100% if he picks Romney then he has a chance to win the sector of the conservative vote that refuses to vote for McCain as well as gives him some leverage to talk about the Economy being that the one good thing that Mitt is really good at besides *cough* leaving a state high and dry *cough, cough* would be business and economics. I understand that the economic issue is being down played in the polls at the moment but when futures on gas goes up again between now and November it will be important. However, if McCain picks Liberman it is over for the Republicans stick a fork in it, finished.
 
Having met Biden several times, I am very happy. I was a big supporter of HRC and would of been happy with either one of them as the pick. Oh and to the person who said that they will have a lot of explaining to do about comments made about each other, all I have to say is McCain will have the same issues with whoever he picks.
 
I agree with that sentiment 100% if he picks Romney then he has a chance to win the sector of the conservative vote that refuses to vote for McCain
And if he picks someone more centrist then he has a chance to win the sector of the moderate vote that refuses to vote for McCain. He'll get votes whichever way he picks; it's just a matter of which way will he (1) get more votes for himself, and (2) pull more votes away from Obama.

However, if McCain picks Liberman it is over for the Republicans stick a fork in it, finished.
I disagree completely. If McCain picks Lieberman, it could radically energize his campaign. He'll have a much better chance of beating Obama if he can pull votes away from Obama by appealing to moderates.
 


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