Island Tower at Polynesian Villas & Bungalows

[tjkraz]

Naw, PIT is going to sell out before Riv, its sells will nosedive once PIT is on sale. They then push it to sell out post PIT leaving cfw as the only WDW resort in active sales until Reflections 2.0 is rolled out.

It’ll be fun to have had 2 unrestricted additions sell out before the first brand new resort with them sells out lol

This is accurate. The lack of resale restrictions will cause Riv to dry up unless the price point is vastly higher.

Riviera outsold Grand Floridian head-to-head for 6 consecutive months in 2022. Pricing matters a whole heck of a lot more to buyers than resale restrictions.

 

[tjkraz]

This biggest difference, to me, is that the grounds surrounding the building of Polyv2 are still very far from complete. It's not just the building itself but all the amenities, roads and pathways surrounding the building that seem behind.

Also 4 months before GF open. Cement and asphalt cure pretty fast. And it doesn't take much to truck-in landscaping.

 

[JOLT]

Opening day for big pine key They were still landscaping haha it was still a construction zone.

Also 4 months before GF open. Cement and asphalt cure pretty fast. And it doesn't take much to truck-in landscaping.

 

[NY Pirate Princess]

It's all about price for me on Poly direct vs poly resale. I expect limited incentives given all the interest demonstrated by potential buyers.

I think some people will buy the Poly day one no matter what it is priced at and Disney may lean on that at first. They can always offer incentives that make the numbers work for the more educated or less heartfelt buyer.

However, they will lose me to resale quickly with that game, and if the economy corrects shortly they will lose more than me.

 

[Brian Noble]

VGF sold out before RIV because DVC, for some reason, preferred so.

One potential reason: PIT was coming, and it's probably easier to market resorts in both the MK-area and EP/DS-area-ish, then to have all of your active-sales resorts in the MK area.

That's probably not changing anytime soon, because next up appears to be Reflections Redux.

 

[Sandisw]

One potential reason: PIT was coming, and it's probably easier to market resorts in both the MK-area and EP/DS-area-ish, then to have all of your active-sales resorts in the MK area.

That's probably not changing anytime soon, because next up appears to be Reflections Redux.

I still think it is price that sways those buyers who don’t have a particular resort in mind.

Sales for PVB tower will be strong the first few months for sure as all those who have been waiting to buy.

After that, we shall see how pricing is for the resorts and how it impacts the sales.

 

[Brian Noble]

I was suggesting that's why DVD may have preferred selling GFV out before RIV.

 

[eticketplease]

VGF sold out before RIV because DVC, for some reason, preferred so.

RIV was selling decently but no way it was going to sell out soon. Remember RIV had quite a few more points to sell than VGF.

It was easier for them to get the active sales down to 3 before adding CFW to bring them back to 4 by discounting VGF.

 

[hockeydad21]

I’m highly confident this project will wrap up on time simply because Disney has way too much to lose by not hitting their holiday deadline when room rates are super high. We’re talking millions of dollars they’d miss out on by just being late 2-3 weeks. If you look at photos from the summer, you’ll see most of the rooms have already installed the cabinets, floors, dining table, murphy beds, and lighting. That’s pretty significant, because then they can focus on the small details in rooms and common spaces.

Also, I know the outdoor areas around the pool look like a complete disaster, but that’s the stuff that can be done the fastest at the end once all the cranes, lifts, and trucks are out. Pouring concrete, installing palm trees and flowering plants, mulching, and laying sod can essentially be done in a week assuming you have the proper manpower.

 

[eticketplease]

It's all about price for me on Poly direct vs poly resale. I expect limited incentives given all the interest demonstrated by potential buyers.

It’s all about the amount of inventory for 1 & 2 bedrooms for us. If it is like VDH with low inventory we will need poly points to book the 11th month window but if not any resale/direct points will do so not sure there is a need to pay the premium for resale or direct Poly.

 

[NY Pirate Princess]

If it is like VDH with low inventory we will need poly points to book the 11th month window but if not any resale/direct points will do so not sure there is a need to pay the premium for resale or direct Poly.

We have okw resale only. I want to trade up while I can still get value from that contract.

I have moved from "this contract is good enough and I can get some of what I want" to "I always want to stay at the poly, 2041 is too soon to stop going to Disney, and gee maybe I want a shot at a new resort in my lifetime plus woowee let me into a lounge or two!"

I am trying to talk myself and my budget into direct for blue card Y status but it's looking more and more like resale for me.

Thanks for the reality check. It helps.

 

[kristenabelle]

Can you book something on cash that you can cancel?

I had WL booked at a good rate before tower opened bookings; should've kept it as a backup lol. Ah well. Definitely overthinking it, which I do every marathon weekend anyway. I'm sure whatever happens it'll be fine

 

[hockeydad21]

We have okw resale only. I want to trade up while I can still get value from that contract.

I have moved from "this contract is good enough and I can get some of what I want" to "I always want to stay at the poly, 2041 is too soon to stop going to Disney, and gee maybe I want a shot at a new resort in my lifetime plus woowee let me into a lounge or two!"

I am trying to talk myself and my budget into direct for blue card Y status but it's looking more and more like resale for me.

Thanks for the reality check. It helps.

If you’re looking to just own DVC beyond 2042 and budget is a concern, then you should consider the current Saratoga springs incentives because they’re pretty good. Plus the dues are less than OKW. And if you’re buying direct, then you get the benefit of staying at Riv and other future DVC properties that may be burdened by resale restrictions.

 

[nlenguyen]

It’s all about the amount of inventory for 1 & 2 bedrooms for us. If it is like VDH with low inventory we will need poly points to book the 11th month window but if not any resale/direct points will do so not sure there is a need to pay the premium for resale or direct Poly.

This will eventually have much more inventory of villas than VDH. VDH is mainly studios

 

[kilik64]

Riviera outsold Grand Floridian head-to-head for 6 consecutive months in 2022. Pricing matters a whole heck of a lot more to buyers than resale restrictions.

Those were quick flip glorified hotel rooms they were selling, not a brand new build tower like PIT.

I may very well be wrong but I’m anticipating a higher than RIV price and it still to outsell it substantially.

 

[eticketplease]

We have okw resale only. I want to trade up while I can still get value from that contract.

I have moved from "this contract is good enough and I can get some of what I want" to "I always want to stay at the poly, 2041 is too soon to stop going to Disney, and gee maybe I want a shot at a new resort in my lifetime plus woowee let me into a lounge or two!"

I am trying to talk myself and my budget into direct for blue card Y status but it's looking more and more like resale for me.

Thanks for the reality check. It helps.

You can use the OKW points but in your situation it certainly seems like a trade would be a good deal not sure which way to go until incentives and pricing are announced.

Poly Pros
1 Family of 5 can stay in a Studio.
2 Location
3 Easy to Rent if needed to
4 You actually can use the 11 month to your advantage
5 Dues are significantly cheaper
6 Longer contract

Poly Cons
1 Buy in costs (Resale/Incentives may change this somewhat)
2 Point Charts!! Did I mention Point Charts?!?! When we go in Spring Break this is the most expensive studio on property.
3 Everyone not staying at Poly seems to visit!! This is certainly not laid back like OKW imo
4 Important to our family so I thought I would list it, NO Community Hall!

 

[nlenguyen]

Poly Cons
2 Point Charts!! Did I mention Point Charts?!?! When we go in Spring Break this is the most expensive studio on property.

We were going to stay here in March 2025, but hoping there is 2 bed availability. I did see that standard view studios are available but it is more points than VGF standard view, that seems crazy to me

 

[eticketplease]

I may very well be wrong but I’m anticipating a higher than RIV price and it still to outsell it substantially.

With the exception of VDH I’m guessing they will continue to match the price of the other active selling properties. That is not to say they won’t raise prices just that the base price will match.

I agree though that I think PVB will outsell RIV when it opens.

 

[Cabius]

We were going to stay here in March 2025, but hoping there is 2 bed availability. I did see that standard view studios are available but it is more points than VGF standard view, that seems crazy to me

PVB studios are already priced higher than VGF studios! It may seem crazy, but it's the world in which we already live.

All they did at the Tower (we assume, based on cash prices) was match the existing point chart, and then add another more expensive view category on top of that.

I personally expect the 1BR and 2BR to scale similarly, giving PVB the most expensive point chart on property across most seasons/room types.

 

[eticketplease]

We were going to stay here in March 2025, but hoping there is 2 bed availability. I did see that standard view studios are available but it is more points than VGF standard view, that seems crazy to me

Yes I couldn’t believe it either when some like @pkrieger2287 constantly knocks RIV on its charts

They are high don’t get me wrong but not as much as these two.

For a studio checking in 3/29/25 and checking out on 4/5/25

Riviera was between 9-26 points less than Poly.

RIV Standard 155 vs PVB 181
RIV Preferred 195 vs PVB 204

Riviera was between 4-17 points less than Grand Flo.

RIV Standard 155 vs VGF 172
RIV Preferred 195 vs VGF 199