Is this true?

[Minnie1222]

What I see is a call to restrict others from having fun. While I understand the underlying supply-demand relationship, many of us do not stay at these hotels long enough to warrant that change. It sounds like we're willing to block access just in case we may need a room for a few nights per year - or even worse, a few nights once in several years - in the hopes of securing a lower cost.

 

[DisneyMom93]

What I see is a call to restrict others from having fun. While I understand the underlying supply-demand relationship, many of us do not stay at these hotels long enough to warrant that change. It sounds like we're willing to block access just in case we may need a room for a few nights per year - or even worse, a few nights once in several years - in the hopes of securing a lower cost.

I don't think anyone is trying to block access to anyone that needs a ROOM. They are discussing booking a room that you don't need so that you access the perks of booking a room.

 

[tony67]

I don't think anyone is trying to block access to anyone that needs a ROOM. They are discussing booking a room that you don't need so that you access the perks of booking a room.

Right and I don't see any value in stopping that for Universal\Lowes.

what are we talking about?

You need to check in to receive your express pass. If you're checking in, then you've booked the room, which reduced the available supply when you booked. If you’re reducing the supply, then you’re ultimately raising room rates for those of us who actually want to stay at the resort. My issue is booking the room with no intention of staying. Once your there and you don't stay in the room the damage is already done so who cares what you do with the room.

I agree that it affects the availability and pricing - that is what I said - there is no doubt of that.

In the end I don't think this is an issue or even on the radar for Universal\Lowes.

 

[Minnie1222]

Why deny people the perks whether or not they stay in the room? I know there are guests who book a single night specifically to access two days of EP, but there are also guests like us who often arrive at nightfall and leave at dawn, meaning we never utilize the EP on our arrival and departure days. Ultimately, these different usage patterns should even out and not cause a problem for the parks.

 

[DisneyMom93]

Why deny people the perks whether or not they stay in the room? I know there are guests who book a single night specifically to access two days of EP, but there are also guests like us who often arrive at nightfall and leave at dawn, meaning we never utilize the EP on our arrival and departure days. Ultimately, these different usage patterns should even out and not cause a problem for the parks.

I'm not sure people are discussing the removal of perks. They are discussing booking a ROOM that you won't use, and how that affects the cost or room supply for other guests who try to book rooms to actually stay in.

 

[DisneyMom93]

Why deny people the perks whether or not they stay in the room? I know there are guests who book a single night specifically to access two days of EP, but there are also guests like us who often arrive at nightfall and leave at dawn, meaning we never utilize the EP on our arrival and departure days. Ultimately, these different usage patterns should even out and not cause a problem for the parks.

I realize some people are discussing the removal of perks if you're not actually staying in the room or just booking as a throw away room, but not specifically so they don't get the perks themselves. It's more about the room itself and its effect on prices and availability.

 

[Minnie1222]

It's more about the room itself and its effect on prices and availability.

What I see is that some people are willing to block others in the hope of getting a preferred rate for a potential visit. I want to emphasize the word "hope" because that is all it is. There is always a possibility that someone else will outspend them, and consequently they may still be unable to get the room or the rate regardless of their actions.

 

[CAPSLOCK]

I sometimes book one night just for the 2 days of EP. But I also stay in the room. Why should I get a different rate than someone who just lounges on the bed for a mid-day nap or never even enters the room?

What counts as "using the room"? Is it a "throwaway" if you are using the pool or going to the room for a break?

This is why I said whether/how the room is used doesn't impact other guests or the hotel. Either way, booked is booked for the hotel's bottom line and for the rate/availability/demand for other people.

Those "ghost room" neighbors are real quiet and they never hold up the elevators.