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I posted this yesterday and cannot find it anywhere at all!!:confused3

Anyway - I'll sum it up. My 4th grader is doing a map project for school. She has already done an excellent job (if I may say so) with the outline of the state, borders, rivers, & cities done in pencil on poster-board. She now has the tough part ahead: creativity. It is worth 10% of the grade and we are not creative thinkers! LOL. Just wondering if anyone out there has ideas we could borrow. She needs to add some color/life to the poster. And of course she has the labeling to do...not sure if she'll just neatly print them with a sharpie, or if someone else may have an idea for that as well.

TIA and I still am confused where my original post wound up? It's totally missing....:confused3
 
I posted this yesterday and cannot find it anywhere at all!!:confused3

Anyway - I'll sum it up. My 4th grader is doing a map project for school. She has already done an excellent job (if I may say so) with the outline of the state, borders, rivers, & cities done in pencil on poster-board. She now has the tough part ahead: creativity. It is worth 10% of the grade and we are not creative thinkers! LOL. Just wondering if anyone out there has ideas we could borrow. She needs to add some color/life to the poster. And of course she has the labeling to do...not sure if she'll just neatly print them with a sharpie, or if someone else may have an idea for that as well.

TIA and I still am confused where my original post wound up? It's totally missing....:confused3
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I believe that a kid's school project should be done by the child and not by a community of adults. If creativity is 10% of the grade, then she should be the one to earn that 10%.
 
Ideas for creativity,aslong as the child does the work should be just fine!! No different than going to Pintrest for ideas. Here's mine.

Try Using Shaving cream and Elmers glue to make an outline and model of your state. You could go to your tourism site and see the different areas in your state and tint the different areas a different color. The puffed texture would make adding a state flag on a toothpick pretty easy.
Here is what you will need:
Shaving cream (cheap Barbarsol works perfectly)
School glue (ya know Elmer's)
Construction paper
Glitter, beads, buttons, or gems (optional)
A bowl
Squirt half (or all if you are having a blast) of the shaving cream into a plastic bowl. Next add the glue and mix.
Have your child scoop out the shaving cream mixture and "paint" with it all over the paper. A little tip for you- the thicker they lay it on the better and the more puffy it will dry in the end.
Set them up away from curious hands and fingers and let them dry for a day or so. Once they are dry they will be puffy like they were when you painted them on
 

Marionnette said:
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I believe that a kid's school project should be done by the child and not by a community of adults. If creativity is 10% of the grade, then she should be the one to earn that 10%.

Disagree
 
fostrmom2mny said:
Ideas for creativity,aslong as the child does the work should be just fine!! No different than going to Pintrest for ideas. Here's mine.

Try Using Shaving cream and Elmers glue to make an outline and model of your state. You could go to your tourism site and see the different areas in your state and tint the different areas a different color. The puffed texture would make adding a state flag on a toothpick pretty easy.
Here is what you will need:
Shaving cream (cheap Barbarsol works perfectly)
School glue (ya know Elmer's)
Construction paper
Glitter, beads, buttons, or gems (optional)
A bowl
Squirt half (or all if you are having a blast) of the shaving cream into a plastic bowl. Next add the glue and mix.
Have your child scoop out the shaving cream mixture and "paint" with it all over the paper. A little tip for you- the thicker they lay it on the better and the more puffy it will dry in the end.
Set them up away from curious hands and fingers and let them dry for a day or so. Once they are dry they will be puffy like they were when you painted them on

Thanks.... Never heard of this before. Cool idea.
 
Glitter
Puff paint
Tiny beads
M&Ms
Number the states, in the order they joined the Union/United States
 
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I believe that a kid's school project should be done by the child and not by a community of adults. If creativity is 10% of the grade, then she should be the one to earn that 10%.

I am with you to an extent... But people have to earn methods of design or techniques from someplace....

Once when judging a school art contest the other judges and I got into a debate because on one good project you coud obviously see the very imperfect circle drawn by the child had been erased and a perfect circle replaced it... I felt it showed that an adult fixed it and that should count against it...
 
I am with you to an extent... But people have to earn methods of design or techniques from someplace....

Once when judging a school art contest the other judges and I got into a debate because on one good project you coud obviously see the very imperfect circle drawn by the child had been erased and a perfect circle replaced it... I felt it showed that an adult fixed it and that should count against it...

How on earth did so many of us do our projects when we were in school and didn't have the benefit of the Internet and message boards? We figured it put on our own. I don't recall my mother ever asking her friends for ideas on how I could be creative with my projects.
 
How on earth did so many of us do our projects when we were in school and didn't have the benefit of the Internet and message boards? We figured it put on our own. I don't recall my mother ever asking her friends for ideas on how I could be creative with my projects.
I did my projects by myself... But they were boring...lol. :rotfl2: My kids do theirs by themselves... :artist:
 
mdsoccermom said:
How on earth did so many of us do our projects when we were in school and didn't have the benefit of the Internet and message boards? We figured it put on our own. I don't recall my mother ever asking her friends for ideas on how I could be creative with my projects.

Well, maybe your mother didn't, but why on Earth would you assume that that means other Mom's didn't? Besides that, the arrival of the Internet and easier ways to do research & share information have changed what is expected of kids' projects these days. You can't really compare one generation to another in that regard. Teachers expect students to be using the Internet for projects. It's been this way for years.

Not looking for a debate here, although that seems to be all some people on these boards enjoy. I was honestly looking for some neat ideas my daughter could consider trying. Nothing more than that.... She did do and will continue to do all of the actual work herself. She is a very bright girl who will get a grade either way, she was just looking for a way to have some fun with it. Asking for advice and sharing opinions is not something I feel guilty about. That's ridiculous.
 
akhenaten said:
I am with you to an extent... But people have to earn methods of design or techniques from someplace....

Once when judging a school art contest the other judges and I got into a debate because on one good project you coud obviously see the very imperfect circle drawn by the child had been erased and a perfect circle replaced it... I felt it showed that an adult fixed it and that should count against it...

If it was me... I'd have had her erase the bad circle, and trace a circular object like a drinking glass instead, so maybe the child really did do the perfect circle after all.
 
Well, maybe your mother didn't, but why on Earth would you assume that that means other Mom's didn't? Besides that, the arrival of the Internet and easier ways to do research & share information have changed what is expected of kids' projects these days. You can't really compare one generation to another in that regard. Teachers expect students to be using the Internet for projects. It's been this way for years.

Not looking for a debate here, although that seems to be all some people on these boards enjoy. I was honestly looking for some neat ideas my daughter could consider trying. Nothing more than that.... She did do and will continue to do all of the actual work herself. She is a very bright girl who will get a grade either way, she was just looking for a way to have some fun with it. Asking for advice and sharing opinions is not something I feel guilty about. That's ridiculous.
Then your daughter should be on the internet doing the research, not you. If creativity is a significant portion of the grade, then it should be creativity that springs from the child's efforts. Parents should only be there to provide the tools to complete a project.
 
Well, maybe your mother didn't, but why on Earth would you assume that that means other Mom's didn't? Besides that, the arrival of the Internet and easier ways to do research & share information have changed what is expected of kids' projects these days. You can't really compare one generation to another in that regard. Teachers expect students to be using the Internet for projects. It's been this way for years.

Not looking for a debate here, although that seems to be all some people on these boards enjoy. I was honestly looking for some neat ideas my daughter could consider trying. Nothing more than that.... She did do and will continue to do all of the actual work herself. She is a very bright girl who will get a grade either way, she was just looking for a way to have some fun with it. Asking for advice and sharing opinions is not something I feel guilty about. That's ridiculous.

Teachers expect STUDENTS to be using the Internet these days. They expect the students to be researching how to do a creative map. Not mommy asking strangers. That's the point.

For example, my 10 year old is doing an oral report on Ponce de Leon and has to dress up. I am requiring him to figure out what his costume will be. I won't do it for him at all. If it's not the most creative costume, so be it. It's HIS work.
 
No interest in debating the merit of your request....just want to say it belongs on the community board or elsewhere.
 
If it was me... I'd have had her erase the bad circle, and trace a circular object like a drinking glass instead, so maybe the child really did do the perfect circle after all.

I don't think a child who drew such bad circles could trace one perfectly... Or then draw over it with a marker perfectly... In other words you are not fooling anyone when you do your kids projects! Lol....
 
No interest in debating the merit of your request....just want to say it belongs on the community board or elsewhere.
Or at the very least, that the Budget Board should have its own off-topic subforum - for threads like this ;)
 
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I believe that a kid's school project should be done by the child and not by a community of adults. If creativity is 10% of the grade, then she should be the one to earn that 10%.

I totally agree. I cannot stand when a project is handed in by my students and I know they didn't lift a finger to do it. What an insult to my intelligence-I work with your child daily and I see what he or she is capable of. Makes me crazy. I stopped grading projects I know were not done by the student. I ask them if they did it and most are honest and say no. Please let your children earn their own grades.
 
I posted this yesterday and cannot find it anywhere at all!!:confused3

Anyway - I'll sum it up. My 4th grader is doing a map project for school. She has already done an excellent job (if I may say so) with the outline of the state, borders, rivers, & cities done in pencil on poster-board. She now has the tough part ahead: creativity. It is worth 10% of the grade and we are not creative thinkers! LOL. Just wondering if anyone out there has ideas we could borrow. She needs to add some color/life to the poster. And of course she has the labeling to do...not sure if she'll just neatly print them with a sharpie, or if someone else may have an idea for that as well.

TIA and I still am confused where my original post wound up? It's totally missing....:confused3


One element of creativity is using your imagination. Your child will never be creative if you ask others to provide ideas for her creativity.
 














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