SaraJayne
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And then if you claim your home as a house of worship, maybe you can get out of paying some taxes too.
Ahhh yes, a page taken from the Duggar notebook.
And then if you claim your home as a house of worship, maybe you can get out of paying some taxes too.
I bolded. The flu vaccine is a guess. It has been wrong many times. The scenario you posted could still happen even with the vaccine.
I bolded. The flu vaccine is a guess. It has been wrong many times. The scenario you posted could still happen even with the vaccine.
How many of those people got the flu from someone that would not have gotten it had they or the people they come in contact with been vaccinated?
Example - what if your child doesn't get the vaccine and gets the flu, then gives it to someone else, who then gives it to someone with a compromised immune system and ends up hospitalized and dies. If your child had gotten the vaccine, that person would have never died. Your child got over the flu and is fine. The person they gave it to got over it and is fine. That that person (or people) down the line did not and lost their life.
This is NOT a far-fetched scenario and I'm sure it's happened before. There are not just and individual effects. There are also community effects.
I don't think the flu vaccine is worth the hype. Your body is designed to react to illnesses and injecting it with one isn't a natural means IMO.
Christine said:Well, there's a lot of things we do now that aren't natural. Ever take an antibotic for strep throat? Not natural.
I actually agree with the theory of vaccinations. There are a few illnesses where being vaccinated has been proven effective and have eradicated many deadly diseases: small pox, polio to name two.
That said, I do think that vaccines come with side effects. Some of them very, very serious. And while those reactions are rare when you think about how many people are given a vaccine versus how many people have a serious reaction, it's easy to dismiss them. However, I'm sure that the people who do have reactions aren't feeling like it's all that rare.
There are many people who have experienced sensitivities to previous vaccines, or they have experienced sensitivities to medications are chemicals such as perfumes, cleaning supplies, etc. I think those people have every right to be cautious about taking a vaccine and they should be able to look at their own medical history and make that decision.
I, personally, am not comfortable dealing with 3 weeks of side effects from a vaccine so I balance the risk of the illness against the symptoms I might very well experience. The flu shot is one that I forgo because I actually kind of believe it is overhyped and I'm not 100% convinced that it does a good job from season to season and there's really no way to know for sure if it worked in any given year or it didn't.
If the OP has valid concerns about a reaction in her child, I think that should be respected. Since it is the law in NJ to get the vaccine, it would seem to me that she could discuss those concerns with her physician and the physician would have the ability to waive the requirement.
So according to some-
If your religion doesn't believe in vaccines it is okay but if you personally don't believe in certain or all vaccines it's not?
Okay OP- New religion- We can call ourselves "Church of the Non Fluers" Voila! Religious exemption!
It could but why not do everything we can to keep it from happening? OH, that's right because your rights to make your own choice for your child's shots are more important than someone else's right to not be subjected to the flu. All about me, right?
Do all of you also claim religious reasons for getting out of the other immunizations that are required? Or do you just pick and choose at will?
How do you purpose the OP claim religious reasons for this shot only?
It could but why not do everything we can to keep it from happening? OH, that's right because your rights to make your own choice for your child's shots are more important than someone else's right to not be subjected to the flu. All about me, right?
Do all of you also claim religious reasons for getting out of the other immunizations that are required? Or do you just pick and choose at will?
How do you purpose the OP claim religious reasons for this shot only?
Interesting question - how can she claim objection on religious grounds when she didn't for all of the other vaccines her child got?
Herd immunity can't possibly be argued when the flu vaccine doesn't protect against all strains of the flu. You can force people to get it, but when they get flu A instead of flu B it isn't going to make one bit of difference because they are going to pass it to others.
ETA, if you are worried about getting the flu because someone else didn't get the vaccine, just make sure YOU get it. Seems pretty simple.
mickeyfan9194 said:I guess I would much rather my child get the flu shot than to suffer the symptoms of the flu, or to pass it on to someone else that may have a weakened immune system. If this particular child hasn't has a reaction to it before, why would you think she might?
My children rarely get colds and have never had the flu, but why take chances if it can be prevented?
teacup princess said:In most states (and I'm not familiar with NJ) the religious exemption is an exemption based on your religious opposition To the PRACTICE of IMMUNIZATION, not to specific vaccines. Therefore, I don't think your religious opposition to only the flu shot will hold up if you've done other vaccines.
It makes a difference if you get exposed go flu A and you were vaccinated against flu A. The idea here is reducing the probability that you will get the flu.
"They" determine the most probable strain of flu that will be going around and develop the vaccine for it. If you get the vaccine, you decrease your probability that you will get that strain of flu.
Of course there is no guarantee that you won't get the flu but decreasing the probability that will get the flu is a good thing isn't it? Who wants to be laid up feeling miserable for a week or 2?
Herd immunity can't possibly be argued when the flu vaccine doesn't protect against all strains of the flu. You can force people to get it, but when they get flu A instead of flu B it isn't going to make one bit of difference because they are going to pass it to others.
ETA, if you are worried about getting the flu because someone else didn't get the vaccine, just make sure YOU get it. Seems pretty simple.
On the flip side of that, my kids have never had the flu and had never had the Flu shot. In fact just last month the flu ran rampant through the school and my kids were all fine.
Nope, I just signed a religious waiver for DS12 to not have the meningitis vaccine, and only that vaccine. The school nurse told me to sign it even though we are not religious. It was a static form and all they ask for was the name and address of the child who didn't receive the vaccine.
There are multiple families at our school who pick and choose which vaccines to get their kids. The school nurse declined the Gardasil vaccine for her kids after doing research on it, and that's the only one her kids haven't had, and the one their particular school was pushing the most.
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Nope, I just signed a religious waiver for DS12 to not have the meningitis vaccine, and only that vaccine. The school nurse told me to sign it even though we are not religious. It was a static form and all they ask for was the name and address of the child who didn't receive the vaccine.
There are multiple families at our school who pick and choose which vaccines to get their kids. The school nurse declined the Gardasil vaccine for her kids after doing research on it, and that's the only one her kids haven't had, and the one their particular school was pushing the most.