Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[Karin1984]

I struggle to believe she wasn`t "allowed" to have help with mental health issues after apparently going to HR. Saying someone (again not named) told her it would look bad for her to be seen having help. We`d never have known she had help unless they decided to share if that was the case.

Where was her husband then who would do anything to help her. William, Catherine and Harry himself launched the Heads Together charity which brought 8 mental health charities to unite together.

Harry couldn`t have found her help? My husband is the first person I turn to......and he would make darn sure I was ok. He had the ways and means to make this happen. But, I truly don`t believe she was told she couldn`t have any help.

That was also one thing I questioned, as Harry said he had 7 years of therapy after the death of his mother. I dont think that was public knowledge. I am sure she could have gotten help without the tabloids finding out.

Being denied, because it would look bad, with their own royal charity... I think there are some pieces of the puzzle missing.
And the follow up question: did she get help when they were in Canada or when they got to the US?
Was that addressed in the interview?

 

[ford family]

The interview hasn't been shown here in the UK yet but the press reports indicate the great benefit that the Duchess of Sussex will not be returning to these shores any time soon, if ever.
So we just wanted to thank you wonderful Americans for taking her off our hands.
Oh, yes, and following that great American tradition of "buy one, get one free" you can keep him too!

ford family

 

[prairie_girl]

One thing to keep in mind with all this is that Meghan is lying.

youve been asked before and ignore it, but where’s your concrete proof? Not a feeling, not an observation, where’s your proof?

Not really surprising as when the couple announced Meghan had gone into labor with Archie, she had actually already given birth to him several hours prior. It's weird how she admits to deceptions like this, yet many people gloss over that and still believe everything else she says.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

You are taking this way, way too personally if you think they are personally trying to fool you. You might need to focus on something else for a while. I’m being sincere when I say that.

 

[mamamia2005]

Ok so I'm in the UK, and this is the first place I came for reports on the interview!
I'll go and read the papers in a minute!

I can't believe that the royal family is racist. I think it could either be as a poster said above the discussion came about from wondering who the baby would look like. Or, Prince Phillip said something that may have been a little near the knuckle, unintentionally upsetting Harry and Meghan. I don't think he's known for his tact or diplomacy, even with the public on occasion let alone with his own family.

I need to go and look up this fake second wedding business.

If Meghan did genuinely have suicidal thoughts then I do feel for her. However, I too would call bull on not being allowed to get help. Her husband, brother and sister in law have many connections in the field of mental health. And I'm sure the royal family learnt lessons from the Diana years.

And as for her not knowing you had to curtsey to the Queen. Well a) that was Harry's failing if true as he should have told her. And b) it must have been lonely for her living under that rock

 

[mousefan73]

Had Oprah been a neutral interviewer she would have asked Harry about the Nazi Halloween costume when the issue of racism came up.

 

[mousefan73]

So general consensus on the British morning shows are:
1. BP cannot be silent and there will be a press release.
2. They are most likely waiting for more information to come out since Oprah hinted there is more to come today.
3. Most question what were the Sussex’s goal for this “interview”.
4. That this whole thing is more about Oprah and that this was actually not an interview. She basically gave them a two hour cry session and did not come back with any counter questions.
5. That this interview is more for the American audience as they wanna grow their brand. And that they benefit from the fact that most Americans don’t understand royal rules or protocols. For example Archie and his supposedly not been given a prince title.This is simply false in Royal protocol
6. If Buckingham comments they will they will focus on two issues 1. Racism 2 mental health. They will not get into she said and she said who cried.

7. An interesting tidbit I was just watching a ITV And they had the royal correspondent who actually broke the Duchess of Cambridge crying story. She stands by her story. She added that is possibly true that Megan also did cry herself. But the story was not known family internally or publically released. And that both women were not aware that maybe the other was also hurt and upset. You know you’re basic family wedding drama situation.And basically said this is how facts and stories get twisted.
8. She also added a good point - the Oprah interview is highly unfair against those that they are accusing. For example the Duchess of Cambridge, William and Charles will never be in the position to publically explain / defend their side of the story.
9. The consensus is that Megan was going through a very difficult time and the fact that she had mental health issues is not being disputed. What is being disputed is her claim that there was lack of support. Harry himself had therapy for many years

 

[mousefan73]

Oooh dang .... “If you need to air your grievances you go to a therapist”

“ by stating your grievances worldwide to millions of people you’re not solving the problem you’re making at worst”

 

[mamamia2005]

So, I've read a few newspaper articles this morning on the Daily Mail

It seems that it was just as I thought it would be - a pity party for Meghan, and Harry backing up everything she said.

I'm beginning to think Harry and Meghan deserve each other. I wish them well, and am happy that they are having a baby girl. Nice to have one of each.
But now, please Queenie, strip of them their royal Sussex titles and let them make their own way in life and hopefully they can all live happily ever after as Prince Harry and Mrs Mountbatten Windsor and their 2 children.

 

[Karin1984]

What the British tabloids write isn't really that interesting as it is very predictable what their articles are and will be about.
Much more interesting are what is happening in the US. This was a very American interview aimed at an American audience.

The New York Post is not that flattering.

It reminds me of the final interview of Peeta and Katniss in the Hunger Games. And I am not sure if that's a better comparison than the Little Mermaid...

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Tell me more about the "two weddings" business!

Re the two wedding business. They said the big wedding was for everyone else; that just the two of them were married several days before the big wedding by the Archbishop of Canterbury, and that was for “them”.

 

[mousefan73]

What the British tabloids write isn't really that interesting as it is very predictable what their articles are and will be about.
Much more interesting are what is happening in the US. This was a very American interview aimed at an American audience.

The New York Post is not that flattering.

It reminds me of the final interview of Peeta and Katniss in the Hunger Games. And I am not sure if that's a better comparison than the Little Mermaid...

The difference between how things are viewed is driven by race for the US viewers. ( not that race in the UK isn't an issue)

Right now the whole BLM movement, race is a lightening rod moment in the US.

Where their punch was, is implying the racism within their own family. Its known and accepted that online media, comment sections and tabloid press often had racist untertones. Seen it myself, but have to save others with BBC, Sky were never so. But from family that is different.

The issue I have is that the Royals never showed any open racism to her. She was accepted with open arms and even more that Kate. Kate never was allowed at sandrignham before marriage, nor had one on one outings with the Queen until years later. I think they rolled out the red carpet even more for Meghan to make her feel even more comfortable as a foreigner.

and now to IMPLY and not be specific on a family comment on how their child might look like? and to imply that Archie was cut off due to color?? which doesnt make sense anyways as he's white. Granted he is of mixed race ( 25%) but looks 100% caucasian.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Someone mentioned a “softball” interview above. I tend to agree. We were led to believe it would be a “no holds barred” interview. While Harry’s family was dragged through the mud, Oprah asked nothing about Meghan’s family, even when Meghan brought up the subject of her parents a time or two. She also counted one of her “losses” as her Dad. Dad is still alive and well. He wants to see her and meet his son in law and grandson. They’re not too far away now. Meghan asks for understanding and caring toward herself, as well as preaches compassion, but is she willing to offer it to others herself?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Well, came this far, I might as well watch the CBS This Morning interview to see the rest of this trainwreck.

 

[Tinks]

I watched the entire interview. MM came off as sympathetic more than I thought she would. I think Americans are buying what she's selling.

However, I personally found it hard to believe the suicidal thoughts story. It just didn't make any sense. First she said she doesn't/didn't read anything about herself. Then she's suicidal because of the stuff written about her. So.....which is it? I'm above the tabloids or I'm obsessed with them? And I'm still scratching my head over the "protection". She kept going on about she and Harry not being protected and how she was not protected (this was before the "firm" told H and M that little Archie would not be a prince). MM was going on and on about how the tabloids were printing stories about her (which she didn't read) and because the family didn't speak out and correct the tabloids, she takes it as they didn't protect her.

She's an actress! Everyone in that Royal family has had bad press/mean press at one point or another, Everyone! It's common knowledge that the RF doesn't speak out about it. But in MM's mind, they should have spoken out for her and because they did not, she felt unprotected. Um, no...they told you keep a stiff upper lip, we've all been there and it will end. How fragile is she? Somehow she's special and the RF didn't treat her as they should.

Ugh.

I feel badly for the RF. The bus they just got thrown under isn't going away for a while. And now saying it was Kate who made her cry....well, that's a big slap. There will be a permanent rift between those two now,

I need to edit to add that I got the distinct feeling Oprah wasn't believing Meg when it came to the suicidal thought story. Nothing concrete that I can point to, but it just seemed like Oprah's reaction was one of listening to a made up drama. If it's true, I'm glad MM got away. But if it's false, think about it, you cannot counter that. That's the ace. I'm so scared that I'm suicidal. No one can NOT give you sympathy if you say that.

 

[Karin1984]

and now to IMPLY and not be specific on a family comment on how their child might look like? and to imply that Archie was cut off due to color?? which doesnt make sense anyways as he's white. Granted he is of mixed race ( 25%) but looks 100% caucasian.

In 2017 when I heard about Meghan for the first time, I thought she was Caucasian, maybe a little darker than white Europeans, but I contributed that more to growing up in California with constant sun on her skin. It wasn't till later when the race issue and the tabloids became a thing, I read that she was biracial.

 

[TLSnell1981]

In 2017 when I heard about Meghan for the first time, I thought she was Caucasian, maybe a little darker than white Europeans, but I contributed that more to growing up in California with constant sun on her skin. It wasn't till later when the race issue and the tabloids became a thing, I read that she was biracial.

I didn't know she was biracial until it was mentioned on the DIS. I never thought about her heritage or background at all. It was nice to see Diana's little boy happy. It was all that mattered.

I only watched for a few minutes. Harry seemed genuine but off the mark. Megs is self promoting and a terrible actress. Didn't believe a word she said. I think it was even difficult for Oprah. Seemed so scripted and rehearsed .

 

[Pink Partridge]

I take back what I said earlier in this thread. I no longer feel sorry for her. I totally believe that she verbally abused her staff. She gives me a bad feeling after this interview.

And that clown make up? Something is wrong with her.

 

[mom2rtk]

Wait. This big dust up with Kate was over.... tights? I'm dying.

I have so little respect for the way she threw Kate under the bus knowing that not only was Kate not there to defend herself, but she knew Kate would not be able to respond.

For all we know, Kate sent flowers by way of being the bigger person and just wanting to put the incident behind them. That doesn't mean to me that Kate was admitting she was in the wrong.

So everyone place your bets. My money says Harry does not attend his father's coronation. He'll go to the other events because he has a soft spot for Granny. But he does seem to have some serious unresolved issues with his father.

.... Right?

 

[Suger Mag]

I especially find the comments here about Megan disclosing suicidal thoughts and seeking therapy very troubling.

I am a survivor of suicide, what it does to the family, the people left behind is devestating. I hope no one ever has to understand the pain of being a family survivor. We need to treat mental health with the respect it deserves. If someone discloses information about their mental health we owe them the benefit of the doubt and to take them seriously.

How DARE anyone make light of someone's mental health struggles... and accusing people of lying or being diisingenuous is exactly that.

So what exactly does someone who is struggling look like? Are they always obvious? Always poor...
No one expected Robin Williams to kill himself... Kate Spade... Anthony Bourdain.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Wait. This big dust up with Kate was over.... tights? I'm dying.

I have so little respect for the way she threw Kate under the bus knowing that not only was Kate not there to defend herself, but she knew Kate would not be able to respond.

For all we know, Kate sent flowers by way of being the bigger person and just wanting to put the incident behind them. That doesn't mean to me that Kate was admitting she was in the wrong.

So everyone place your bets. My money says Harry does not attend his father's coronation. He'll go to the other events because he has a soft spot for Granny. But he does seem to have some serious unresolved issues with his father.

.... Right?

Do you think Harry will be welcome? He may be allowed to show up but the reception won't be warm and fuzzy. I'd put a fork in it and say I was done. What some folks will do for a buck is disgusting.