Is it odd to be anti-fur but still eat meat/wear leather?

[madgomez]

I don't think I'd have a problem with it, myself. But then I can eat dinner while watching those medical documentaries on TLC too!

But I do see your point, I think there would be more vegitarians if people saw a cow instead of a steak.

You and my husband! He actually watched one of my wisdom teeth get pulled!

But thanks for getting my point. I think folks are very sincere in their beliefs, but for the most part don't really know that much about the livestock/butcher business.

 

[2BigKIdz]

My boss has a very wealthy husband, and he's always buying her a new fur coat. She wore it last week and offered to let us all try it on. I declined, and when she asked why I just said (in a nice way) that I'm against fur. It doesn't bug me that she owns them, but it's just not for me.

Anyway, one of my co-workers said that it's a bit hypacritical to be anti-fur but wear leather. I told her that since I eat meat, including beef, why wouldn't I wear leather? But I don't eat mink or fox or chinchila, so I don't wear their furs.

This all makes perfect sense to me, but maybe I'm wrong?

Any other meat-eating leather wearer's out there that are anti-fur?

I'm with you.

 

[RoyalCanadian]

I eat meat, wear leather shoes and I have a great pair of moosehide mitts, lined iwth wool blanket and covered in beaver fur. They were made by an Oji-Cree native in Quebec. The moosehide is smoke-tanned -- so my hands end up smelling like I've been sitting around a campfire. They are simply wonderful.

I have no qualms about wearing them during the cold winters of southern Ontario and I know that my purchase of those mitts helped to put food on the table of a native craftsperson.

 

[LordAthens]

I am a hunter and will eat venison and moose meat till the cows come home.......but will not wear a fur coat because they are not humanly taken care of or put out of their misery for the sake of a fur.......venison and moose are usually killed by a hunter with one bullet and there are a certain amount of deer or moose that can be taken in that area because of over population and they would die either by not enough food to sustain them or by getting killed by vehicles .......although the moose hunt is for the other reason.......they get hit by vehicles and the people die......go ahead my flame retardent suit is on

While I agree on almost every point, there is one thing i'm going to respectfully disagree on. I used to hunt w\ rifle with my pop when I was younger, so I know where you're coming from. However, hunters that bow hunt certainly don't fall into that category. Rarely ever will a kill go down quickly with a bow. Usually there is much tracking until you find where it bled to death.

On a side note (and not trying to hi-jack), I have a morals question for some, about 2 weeks ago I slammed a deer square on my bumper on my Wrangler doing ~35-40. (The area of Pittsburgh that I live is surrounded by county parks, if yo haven't hit a deer in this area, you simply haven't lived here long enough) It was a younger doe. After the impact it went flying a solid 50 ft down the road, where a few of it's legs then slid under the rear tire of an on-coming car. As to not be to graphic, it was noticably injured. Additionally, lets say you (legally) carry a concealed firearm.

My question, do you put the deer out of it's misery, or do you let nature take it's course?

To get back on topic, I'm against "vanity furs" simply because they serve no purpose other than vanity. My feet keep nice and toasty in my beaver mukluks when we go up to Canada for a few weeks to go snowmobiling. Then again, I don't go yelling at people wearing vanity furs, they don't yell at me about eating my inhumane KFC chicken.

 

[urglewurgle]

I eat beef and pork and wear leather--I hate the idea of not utilizing the entire animal. I am against killing any animal for the sake of their fur, tusks, etc. Therefore, I guess I am anti-fur for myself. I love the feel and look of fur, but just can't bring myself to wear it.

me too!

i just couldn't bring myself to wear it, plus i could never afford it... IF tho, i lived in somewhere VERY cold and rural and we had to kill our own food, and use their skins for clothing... i'd be ok with that...

 

[Planogirl]

If a deer is hit by a car and noticeably injured, the humane thing would be to put the animal out of its misery. It's not necessarily the legal thing though.

I have nothing against people who raise animals for whatever purpose and treat them humanely. I also have nothing against those who hunt for nonendangered species and use what they kill.

However, I still have a problem with trapping and I haven't seen anyone else mention this. Does anyone else agree that trapping is inhumane?

 

[C.Ann]

However, I still have a problem with trapping and I haven't seen anyone else mention this. Does anyone else agree that trapping is inhumane?

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Yes - I agree that trapping is inhumane - as is clubbing baby seals.. Not particulary fond of fox hunts either..

 

[Maleficent13]

I do wish someone would respond to my query.

If you had to look at the entire carcass of a cow, pig, sheep, chicken, whatever, hanging skinned from a hook, and tell the butcher what part you wanted him to cut off for you to eat, would you still be so comfortable eating that meat. It would look an awful lot like the living animal.

I'll respond. I HAVE looked at the entire carcass of a cow and had to tell the butcher which parts I wanted (well, my parents told them). I even had an inflatable cow that I could ride around when I was little that had all the different cuts marked on it in white dotted lines...weird, I know, but mom worked for a butcher. I still eat meat, and I know exactly where it comes from and what it was before it was on my plate. But then I don't exactly have delicate sensibilities either.

 

[Disneyrsh]

They are not rodents, they are mustelids. At least get the facts straight.

Anne

Looks like a rodent, smells like a rodent, bites like a rodent. That's enough for me

 

[Disneyrsh]

I'm sure I'll get flamed, but wearing fur coats is not just always just "vanity" or "for rich folks." I walk 25-30 minutes each way to the subway every day - that's 50-60 minutes of walking through snow, sleet, blizzards, you name it. I am very slender, I suffer from anemia, and I am always freezing in cold weather. I have tried every coat known to man: down, synthetic, faux fur, cashmere, wool - and sorry, none are as warm as my fur coat and that's why I have one and don't apologize for it. If I take care of this one coat, it will last me at least 20 years (as my MIL's has). Meanwhile, everyone else is eating meat every day and/or buying new leather shoes/belts/coats every year causing so many more animals to be killed than my ONE fur coat. Yet, I cannot tell you how many folks believe they have the right to say something to me and threaten me in public, without knowing anything about me. To the OP, these are all personal decisions and you just need to feel comfortable with your own decisions. I don't believe anyone has the right to question how and why you came to that decision.

We did an experiment as kids that proved that animal insulators, such as wool and fur, kept the heat from a potato from reaching the outside of a box better than any insulator created by man, including the pink stuff we put in attics (not that you'd want to wear that) and all sorts of other man made insulators. Fur was specifically designed to keep animals warm, if you need it, then you need it!

 

[Disneyrsh]

All in the wild where they would at least have a decent shot at living a normal mink life instead of all having their necks wrung or their throats slit.

Uh, what, in 'the wild' they one day lay down peacefully and die? No, sorry, they starve to death when their teeth grow through their skull, they get eaten by coyotes (not a fate I'd wish on anyone), they freeze to death, or, hello, get eaten by other minks when they get feeble!

Nature is every bit as heartless and vicious as Man. She just doesn't feel guilty about it.

 

[Disneyrsh]

I do wish someone would respond to my query.

If you had to look at the entire carcass of a cow, pig, sheep, chicken, whatever, hanging skinned from a hook, and tell the butcher what part you wanted him to cut off for you to eat, would you still be so comfortable eating that meat. It would look an awful lot like the living animal.

Yes, I've seen whole carcasses of pigs that are put into a pit down in miami where they cook with hot rocks and other stuff all day, and while it's not pretty, man, it tastes GOOD when it comes out. I've also gutted and beheaded fish and then put them under the broiler with some butter and lime juice. Yes, it's not as nice as the stuff you see under the plastic wrap in the store, but it's a lot fresher and tastier.

 

[Cebhfhionn]

I eat meat but hate leather and fur. Don't see the point in wearing either.

I would rather wear the leather knowing that we're not 'wasting' the rest of what we have killed for its meat.

I eat meat, wear leather but HATE fur. Don't mind faux fur though, sincerest form of flattery if you ask me.

 

[eclectics]

Uh, what, in 'the wild' they one day lay down peacefully and die? No, sorry, they starve to death when their teeth grow through their skull, they get eaten by coyotes (not a fate I'd wish on anyone), they freeze to death, or, hello, get eaten by other minks when they get feeble!

Nature is every bit as heartless and vicious as Man. She just doesn't feel guilty about it.

I think you missed my point. Unless a species of animal has been domesticated over time, no matter how well they are treated in captivity, they are still wild and have wild instincts. I don't think living in a pen would be particularly appealing to them. That is why wolves do not make particularly good pets, for example. Living in the wild with all the dangers is natural to these animals. They face the dangers instinctively and sometimes they get lucky and live a long life and sometimes they don't. That's nature. Are you saying we should round up all the wild animals and put them in pens because they'll have a comfier life?

 

[ford family]

I think you missed my point. Unless a species of animal has been domesticated over time, no matter how well they are treated in captivity, they are still wild and have wild instincts. I don't think living in a pen would be particularly appealing to them. That is why wolves do not make particularly good pets, for example. Living in the wild with all the dangers is natural to these animals. They face the dangers instinctively and sometimes they get lucky and live a long life and sometimes they don't. That's nature. Are you saying we should round up all the wild animals and put them in pens because they'll have a comfier life?

But if the animals are born in captivity they would not know anything was different. It does not take many generations for the mink, in this instance, to become domesticated. They will still be vicious and aggressive but no longer gazing wistfully at the great outdoors.
And their meat is not wasted, it goes into petfood.

ford family

 

[C.Ann]

But if the animals are born in captivity they would not know anything was different. It does not take many generations for the mink, in this instance, to become domesticated. They will still be vicious and aggressive but no longer gazing wistfully at the great outdoors.
And their meat is not wasted, it goes into petfood.

ford family

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Thank you for posting the above.. There are many false assumptions made by - and rumors spread by - those who have no working knowledge of a legitimate, humane, well-run mink farm..

 

[pumba]

about the question about a cow or other critter hanging upside down and getting ready to take the pelt off SAID CRITTER......today I watched that happen to my deer that I shot at eight thirty this morning.........I didnt see it as a deer......when it was hanging I saw......wow.......tenderloin and eye of the round and hamburg and little steaks to make steak soup with.....I was so excited to see this and know that I did this.....I ....am a good shot and can put one down with one bullet.....as I did today.......

 

[madgomez]

Yes, I've seen whole carcasses of pigs that are put into a pit down in miami where they cook with hot rocks and other stuff all day, and while it's not pretty, man, it tastes GOOD when it comes out. I've also gutted and beheaded fish and then put them under the broiler with some butter and lime juice. Yes, it's not as nice as the stuff you see under the plastic wrap in the store, but it's a lot fresher and tastier.

Yes, I've seen my share of whole pigs roasted, etc. And yes, it does taste better if it's fresher. But my point is I think some folks ignore this reality when cutting into that porterhouse, but yet wearing fur bothers them. I think if they had to face the dead carcasses, they would either become vegetarians, or get over the aversion to using the fur. If you realize that the steak looks as much like a live animal as the fur does.......................

 

[madgomez]

about the question about a cow or other critter hanging upside down and getting ready to take the pelt off SAID CRITTER......today I watched that happen to my deer that I shot at eight thirty this morning.........I didnt see it as a deer......when it was hanging I saw......wow.......tenderloin and eye of the round and hamburg and little steaks to make steak soup with.....I was so excited to see this and know that I did this.....I ....am a good shot and can put one down with one bullet.....as I did today.......

But are you against wearing fur? I myself don't really like the taste of venison, but as long as you're using what you killed, I have no problem.

 

[pumba]

we will bring the pelt to a fur buyer and sell it there or get twenty dollars off deer skin gloves.....I get the five bucks and leave...goes towards the deer processing
but I would not wear a mink or a sable or a leopard...my mom had several fur coats when she was growing up but that was the norm back in the old days......I would never want to see an animal suffer