Is double booking different PS's impolite or good WDW strategy?

[cristbaby]

I first booked my trip one way - then another way - Then I booked PS's - then I booked them another way -

Now I have PS's through the wazoo some 25 or so - I canceled duplicates that you have to pay for so there is only one Fantasmic package, one 1900 Park Fare etc, one spirit of Aloha... etc. But for others I noticed that if we should decide to go to a different park then I have PS's at different parks on the same day... So if we change plans we still have good PS's

So question is - is this just a good planning technique? or do you think it rude?

Wow, very selfish indeed. Imagine all those disappointed children that were not able to get PS. A few extra PS's maybe, but 25. Naughty, naughty

 

[nataliesdaddy]

Sorry to be harsh but to me this is the height of selfishness. Just becuase Disney lets you do this does not mean it is good behavior.

While it is good technique for you so that you have the most flexibility it comes at the expense of others. By your doing this you will stop other people that are planning in advance from going to the places you have double booked. Yes, they could maybe get a ressie day of but if they have already committed elsewhere, unlike you, they will most likely not try.

I know with our trip it is difficult to decide when to go to Chef Mickeys. I could just make a ressie for every morning and then go on whatever day we feel like it. It would be like having a guaranteed walk up. But if we did that then I know other people that want to take thier children to Chef Mickeys would miss out. So we are picking a day and keeping to it.

I hope if you think about what you are doing you will realize that this is not the right thing to do and alter your PS accordingly.

By the way - we stay at the contemporary - and we have nevrer had a problem getting into Chjef Mickeys without a PS - you may have to wait 20 minutes

 

[nataliesdaddy]

Wow, very selfish indeed. Imagine all those disappointed children that were not able to get PS. A few extra PS's maybe, but 25. Naughty, naughty

well thanks for your judgementalism - its 25 over the course of 14 days

 

[luvmk]

By the way - we stay at the contemporary - and we have nevrer had a problem getting into Chjef Mickeys without a PS - you may have to wait 20 minutes

I know you are only using Chef Mickey's as one example, but if it's possible to get seated and only have to wait 20 minutes or so, then why do you need 25 ps's? Why not keep the ones you absolutely know you want to do and then go from there?


Rachel

 

[MommyBoo!]

By the way - we stay at the contemporary - and we have nevrer had a problem getting into Chjef Mickeys without a PS - you may have to wait 20 minutes

We have seen walkups turned away at Chef Mickey's at times and other times they were told a 45 minute wait.

well thanks for your judgementalism - its 25 over the course of 14 days

Ah good question - no they are for different restaurants at close to but dissimilar times

So, why the 25 over 14 days comment if you are still double booking?

You asked for people's opinions, including whether what you were doing was being rude. And, yes, I think it is rude. And I also think and hope that Disney will not be allowing this to continue. And that's my opinion. YMMV and obviously does.

 

[bugsy]

OP, mommyboo is right...you DID ask! Maybe you were
really anticipating unilateral approval???

 

[lclark0621]

I think it is rude to hold onto PS's you know you wont keep.

I mean the rest of us also have to plan far in advance & figure out where we want to make our PS's.

If I make a PS for Epcot one of my days, and when we get to Disney World we do the MK that day instead, generally we will still hop over to Epcot for dinner. But if for some reason we decide we wont go to Epcot, I call first thing & cancel the PS. It is just good manners.

We try to spread our PS's out throughout our trip. We know approx how many days we will spend in each park. So when it comes to PS times, we base it on that. Who cares if I hit MGM on Monday or on Tuesday when I have my PS scheduled? It would make sense for us to wait until Tuesday.

If you have PS's in several of the popular places on your double booking, I think you need to think about other people. How would you feel if your family was turned away because my family had double booked PS's?

Figure out approx how many days you want to do each park. Then spread your PS's out accordingly. Like I said if you have a PS at the MK, play in the MK that day. You can wait until the next day to go to MGM, when you already have your PS's.

You say you are going for 14 days. That is plenty of time to eat everywhere you want to & you can free up your double booked PS's for other people.

 

[lllovell]

I am on board with those saying its rude. I will also say that you are going to really HATE it when you get there I bet because you will constantly be wasting time trying to make all those PS ressies. Can't go ride Buzz because we might miss our time at Tony's, etc Wait 30 extra minutes for a bus (for whatever reason) and what you will end up with is lots of stress on your vacation.

We tend to do one PS per day....breakfast on a non-park day and dinner about every other night. Then we use the restaurants at our resorts or DTD or go off property for the rest. Too much scheduling just makes everyone miserable, both the person that did all the work to make the schedule and the ones being pushed to keep up with it.

Good luck with your trip and I hope you enjoy it.

 

[cristbaby]

Well I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one suffering from judgementalism. You asked for an opinion and I only meant to give you mine, sorry if it offended you.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

We have seen walkups turned away at Chef Mickey's at times and other times they were told a 45 minute wait.

never had that prob at CM

So, why the 25 over 14 days comment if you are still double booking?

because its less then two a day - I did have three a day before I started canceling

You asked for people's opinions,

There is a difference between a person saying something is unfair, or rude... and then calling a person some epithet. When someone uses the word "selfish" I find it humorous as it assigns a psychological state that is an ignorant judgement call. Whether someone feels or experiences a slight (i.e. experiencing rudeness) that is wholly different. One says how a person is irked, the other is imputing character. Imputting character when you don't know someone is an ignorant act by definition

And, yes, I think it is rude. And I also think and hope that Disney will not be allowing this to continue. And that's my opinion. YMMV and obviously does.

Well Disney really has no other choice but to allow people to book numerous PS's as there is noi way to predict which members of a party might be going to which meals - they can, however, block same party size same time.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

Well I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one suffering from judgementalism. You asked for an opinion and I only meant to give you mine, sorry if it offended you.

No offense taken - that is why I was facetious

 

[DisneyMomx7]

I do think it is rude. We really wanted to eat at Liberty Tree Tavern on the 4th of July but because we were worried about not being able to get into the parks (even though we're staying right at the GF) we made a PS for WCC instead. I could have made one for each but I didn't think that would be fair to the people who were at MK looking for a place to have dinner.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

I know you are only using Chef Mickey's as one example, but if it's possible to get seated and only have to wait 20 minutes or so, then why do you need 25 ps's? Why not keep the ones you absolutely know you want to do and then go from there?


Rachel

well thats chef mickeys - other places I would never say just walk up - And I would not say walking up is a sure thing at CM either unless you are staying there... I have just not seen a long wait at CM. If you are staying there and they have an exorbitant wait then you can hit the concourse steakhouse (or whatever its called) ... I have never seen a wait there.

I had more then 25 I have been culling them down - I started with one vacation and its PS's then one of the parties could not go at a certain time so I had to reschedule the hotels and rebook PS's. This person is also into fine dining as I am so then I booked Victoria and Alberts sole reservation for chef's table. Then my work needed me to be in Washington for part of that trip so I rebooked again and rebooked PS's - but each rebooking meant I was later into the 90 PS window. SO instead of canceling everything each timje I rebooked I kept the poriginal reservations because there was overlap in dates and times and because the farther into the window the less likelihood of certain PS's. Plus I was warned my schedule might shift again. Then on top of all that EMH hours were not out and best days were not out (UG best days). So, I waited before touching any PS's because if I canceled only to find out that that time and date wound up being the final actual vacation then if I had canceled it ... I would not be able to get it back. For example: I didn't cancel that V&A Chef's table ressie until the Gov made it sure I could not be there at that time, because that res is gone within minutes or less of being put back into the system - there is only one table and one seating.

Anyway, that left me with a slew when I finally got the Treas dept, and the Gov's final "in stone" commitment to stop screwing with my vacation - lol

So now I am down to 25 - probably going to cull it down to 15

 

[nataliesdaddy]

I do think it is rude. We really wanted to eat at Liberty Tree Tavern on the 4th of July but because we were worried about not being able to get into the parks (even though we're staying right at the GF) we made a PS for WCC instead. I could have made one for each but I didn't think that would be fair to the people who were at MK looking for a place to have dinner.

why were you worried about not getting into the parks? If you are at the GF park entry is gauranteed - when they close the parks it is for non dis resort guests - On Xmas day MK closed but if you were staying at the Contemporary you still got in (at least that was our experience)

 

[nataliesdaddy]

OP, mommyboo is right...you DID ask! Maybe you were
really anticipating unilateral approval???

no not in the least

 

[nataliesdaddy]

I think it is rude to hold onto PS's you know you wont keep.

I mean the rest of us also have to plan far in advance & figure out where we want to make our PS's.

If I make a PS for Epcot one of my days, and when we get to Disney World we do the MK that day instead, generally we will still hop over to Epcot for dinner. But if for some reason we decide we wont go to Epcot, I call first thing & cancel the PS. It is just good manners..

Well assuming
I keep some of the overlapping ressies (what I am calling double booking) we would certainly cancel the day prior at least.

 

[lllovell]

I don't think your info about park closings is correct. There is a capacity and days like New Years Eve and July 4th often hit it and if you aren't in, you dont get in - no matter where you are staying.

I see how you ended up with so many at this point and I see why you have kept some of them. I wouldn't do it this way but what you have now explained makes more sense than before. I would still cancel the other as soon as you can.

 

[mking624]

Personally, no matter what shifting is going on in your schedule, I still don't find that any reason to be keeping so many spots from those who also want to book. My advice? Make up your mind about ressies and make those and only those. If you want to change your mind, do it and cancel the other one *right away* (and I don't mean you decide to change your mind in 24 hours) You have to remember there are only so many hours in a day and there are THOUSANDS of people going to WDW...and holding 25 ressies is keeping several people from getting those spots. Even cutting it down to 15 when you know you're not gonna hit all 15 is keeping spots from other people. So you'd call the day before or something? That's not going to make a big difference. By that time, many people have given up and get a cheeseburger instead. Be considerate of others. You're not the only one who wants to eat somewhere.

 

[MommyBoo!]

never had that prob at CM

well thats chef mickeys - other places I would never say just walk up - And I would not say walking up is a sure thing at CM either unless you are staying there... I have just not seen a long wait at CM. If you are staying there and they have an exorbitant wait then you can hit the concourse steakhouse (or whatever its called) ... I have never seen a wait there.

That's great for you but others have not been so lucky. Also, the point is that they want to go to Chef Mickey's, not the concourse steakhouse.

because its less then two a day - I did have three a day before I started canceling

It's still double booking. You stated you have similar times at different restaurants. You are booking more times than you will use.

There is a difference between a person saying something is unfair, or rude... and then calling a person some epithet. When someone uses the word "selfish" I find it humorous as it assigns a psychological state that is an ignorant judgement call. Whether someone feels or experiences a slight (i.e. experiencing rudeness) that is wholly different. One says how a person is irked, the other is imputing character. Imputting character when you don't know someone is an ignorant act by definition

You're right, you asked if people thought you were being rude. Some people see rude and selfish as similar. Hoarding anything (pss included) could be seen as selfish.

Well Disney really has no other choice but to allow people to book numerous PS's as there is noi way to predict which members of a party might be going to which meals - they can, however, block same party size same time.

Actually, it's been reported that they have started cancelling double bookings for resorts and will be checking for the same with ps. If the problem continues, they most likely will start requiring deposits for a ps that they now do not.

OK, I know what it's like to have your schedule constantly change, but I still think it is rude to hold on to extra pss. I am finding this thread interesting. I do hope you have a good vacation.

 

[Shifletjl]

Add me to the rude column. Some PS's are very difficult to get and have to be made 90 days in advance. It seems rude to me for a person to make arrangements for a PS they know they cannot possibly keep just incase they change their minds. JMHO

Jen