Is double booking different PS's impolite or good WDW strategy?

[mjatgoofy]

Yes, I believe it it is rude, selfish or whatever else you want to call it.

 

[Pedler]

Anyway, that left me with a slew when I finally got the Treas dept, and the Gov's final "in stone" commitment to stop screwing with my vacation - lol

So now I am down to 25 - probably going to cull it down to 15

You may have wanted to mention that in your origional post. That would explain the reason for the multiple PS's and that you intended to get rid of the overlaps as soon as you could.

Sorry for the miss understanding. I thought you were booking doubles just because you couldn't decide on what you wanted to do in the parks and were not going to decide until the last moment. There are people that do that even though there vacation schedule is set in stone.

FYI on the Chef Mickey's thing. I think most people would not make the trip to CR just for Chef Mickey's if they couldn't get a PS. I know for my kids the Concourse would not be an acceptable alternative. For that matter to save myself a meltdown by them I am not even mention where we are going until I have secured a PS. It wouldn't go over too well to tell them we are going there and then not do it. That's when I would ask for the valium! Either for them or me. Heh, heh.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

You're right, you asked if people thought you were being rude. Some people see rude and selfish as similar.

Don't know why. They are very different thinsg - certainly not synonyms.

Actually, it's been reported that they have started cancelling double bookings for resorts and will be checking for the same with ps. If the problem continues, they most likely will start requiring deposits for a ps that they now do not.

Well, yeah they will cancel if you have two simultaneous reservations. That is an easy thing to set up a booking engine to look for. Other permutations would not be as simple and would lead to auto cancellations happening where there should be none. Disney would have to be crazy to write cancelling code for anything other then simultaneous or near simultaneous reservations. Besides none of mine are simultaneous, most would be at least an hour apart.

OK, I know what it's like to have your schedule constantly change, but I still think it is rude to hold on to extra pss. I am finding this thread interesting. I do hope you have a good vacation.

Yeah we should have a great time - usually do. Daughter has a blast. I get tons of great pictures of her laughing and smiling for my reward. Fiance and daughter get to relax while I work my tail off. Grandma, just hangs out and meets us for meals here and there. Pretty much everyone is elated and euphoric ... my vacation comes later

 

[nataliesdaddy]

I don't think your info about park closings is correct. There is a capacity and days like New Years Eve and July 4th often hit it and if you aren't in, you dont get in - no matter where you are staying.

I see how you ended up with so many at this point and I see why you have kept some of them. I wouldn't do it this way but what you have now explained makes more sense than before. I would still cancel the other as soon as you can.

I don't know about that - concierge has consistently told me if you are at a Dis resort you get in - if you are not a dis resort guest then no you don't get in

 

[mill4023]

well thanks for your judgementalism - its 25 over the course of 14 days

What exactly did you expect?
You posted the question asking for people's opinions on whether it was impolite and you got them.
I agree that it is very unfair to others to keep PS's you don't intend to use. If you want the flexibility to decide each day where you are going to go, then you should be willing to take your chances at being seated.

 

[mking624]

Don't know why. They are very different thinsg - certainly not synonyms.

The definition of "selfish" is to think only of oneself. This is how the whole thing is appearing to everyone...that you're only thinking of yourself in this and not being considerate to the fact that you may be "screwing someone over" in a way with all your PS arrangements, whether or not that is your intent. So yes, I can see why people see it as being selfish. And even though selfishness & rudeness are not synonyms, they DO go hand in hand. To think only of oneself definitely IS rude. And people wouldn't be rude if they weren't only concerned with their own well-being (i.e. looking out for #1).

As mill4023 so wonderfully put: what exactly did you expect? When you specifically word a subject title to ask whether something is impolite or good strategy...then you have to expect people to jump on the "impolite" bandwagon.

 

[Mommy Poppins]

I believe that if you are a Disney resort guest, you are guaranteed entry into "a" Disney park. May not be the park you want to go to, but they will tell you which park(s) is stil available for resort guests. Epcot can handle a lot more people than MGM or MK so that is usually where they send guests when a park fills to capacity.

 

[dani12]

I also think it is rude. I have changed our schedules MANY times in the past 74 days and have also cancelled when I switched reservations. If I want to switch and what I want is not available, I just keep my old one. If what I want is available, I cancel my old one b/c it is only fair to give someone else the chance to have it. If I decide I shouldn't have changed it, I try to get it back and if not, oh well, I lost it. I guess I could have held on to all of them but I guess I am hoping others are as fair as me.

 

[H&Hmommy]

I think it is very rude!!!
Kim

 

[SueM in MN]

I don't know about that - concierge has consistently told me if you are at a Dis resort you get in - if you are not a dis resort guest then no you don't get in

As mommypoppins wrote, at the busiest times of the year (like New Years, Christmas, 4th of July), WDW resort guest are guaranteed entrance into a park, not necessarily the park of their choice. Closing a park goes in several phases, the first being closing the parking lot (which means only guests using WDW transportation can get in). The final phase of closing is closed to all guests, with WDW resort guests being diverted to a park that is not at that level of closing.

And, to answer the "Is it rude" question. I think it is rude because it prevents others from getting reservations.

 

[Laura's Dad]

Why would any one that follows Walt Disney's example of class and consideration for his fellow man want to cheat someone out of the ability to enjoy his theme park and restaurants by double/triple/quadruple booking restaurants??? It is against everything Walt stood for. We try to get our PS at as close to the possible time that we would like to eat under the current PS times. Why would any one want to cheat the system? Is it that important that people would deprive others over a seating time at a particular restaurant at a certain time? What are we coming to?

 

[nataliesdaddy]

The definition of "selfish" is to think only of oneself. This is how the whole thing is appearing to everyone

no that is not how it looks to everyone - read through the thread very few have used that term - many have used the word "unfair"...which I would agree with

that you're only thinking of yourself

again that would be judgementalism by definition as you would have no idea of who I am or why I do what I do. It would have very little to do with self. If it did have to do with selfishness I would not be going to Disney.

in this and not being considerate to the fact that you may be "screwing someone over" in a way with all your PS arrangements, whether or not that is your intent.

wound up helping some people on the disboards also

So yes, I can see why people see it as being selfish. And even though selfishness & rudeness are not synonyms, they DO go hand in hand.

Well no actually they don't. They are entirely different concepts. People are frequently rude without being selfish or egocentric in the least - and vice versa. And people are often very egocentric without being rude in the least.

To think only of oneself definitely IS rude.

Well no, that wouldn't be true

And people wouldn't be rude if they weren't only concerned with their own well-being (i.e. looking out for #1).

and that wouldn't be true either. People are frequently rude while not being the slightest bit selfish.

As mill4023 so wonderfully put: what exactly did you expect? When you specifically word a subject title to ask whether something is impolite or good strategy...then you have to expect people to jump on the "impolite" bandwagon.

Oh... whether rude or not rude - impolite or not impolite are both quite social and cultural things. Selfishness is to impute motive. They are entirely different concepts. I can be in mexico, use pluperfect instead of conditional tense and wind up being extremely rude and lewd without being remoteoly selfish. Or I can shake a persons hand in a gesture of friendship or in a meeting and wind up insulting the person without knowing it. I have even said "thank you" before and had it construed as being incredibly rude. None of which had anything to do with my being selfish. And I have had extremely selfish motives before and not been considered rude. I bought a painting... no one but no one was going to have that painting but me. I got it. Everyone thought extremely well of me for it, because what was my selfish obsession to have a painting was seen by others as an act of philanthropy. The artist, the charity, and the girlfriend I gave it to none found anything rude about it in the least - yet it was an extremely selfish act.

My apologies however, I seem to have upset you for some reason

 

[ReninDetroit]

I think its rude.

If you're going to make a priority seating, you should already know what park you're going to be in on what day.

 

[epcotfan]

Tacky and rude. I'm at a point where I'm having a hard time picking PS for July since I don't have theme park hours yet. However, I won't be booking "back ups" because of my indecisiveness. I'm not going to hold tables because I can't make a decision. If I change my mind I will phone PS and change them as necessary but I won't be booking multiple reservations on the same day for my every whim and block another visitor from getting a PS.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

Actually, it's been reported that they have started cancelling double bookings for resorts and will be checking for the same with ps. If the problem continues, they most likely will start requiring deposits for a ps that they now do not.

this has me very curious - so then - If instead of booking a suite, I wanted to book the Yacht Club and the Contemporary for the same week or two so we could be close to MK when we were doing MK and then close to Epcot and MGM when we were doing Epcot and MGM they will no longer allow a family to have two or three rooms?

 

[LisaS]

this has me very curious - so then - If instead of booking a suite, I wanted to book the Yacht Club and the Contemporary for the same week or two so we could be close to MK when we were doing MK and then close to Epcot and MGM when we were doing Epcot and MGM they will no longer allow a family to have two or three rooms?

I've been curious about this too since seeing a post about it. Someone had made two different reservations for the same dates, intending to cancel one when she made her final decision on where to stay. At some point Disney made the decision for her and cancelled one of them. I'm guessing that if you actually did want to book and pay for two rooms at two different resorts, they would be put under the same confirmation number or somehow be tied together as part of the same reservation? That way they know you are not trying to "hide" one by calling two different times and making two separate reservations which end up being totally separate from one another? Just speculation on my part. I've never booked more than one room so I don't actually know how confirmation numbers are assigned, i.e., if you can have the same confirmation number refer to multiple rooms or if each room has to have it's own confirmation number, even if all of the rooms are part of the same reservation? Given that some people have large families and require more than one room (though usually at the same resort), they must have a way to tie multiple rooms together into one reservation. The question is, how does that work if those rooms are not at the same resort?

 

[nataliesdaddy]

I've been curious about this too since seeing a post about it. Someone had made two different reservations for the same dates, intending to cancel one when she made her final decision on where to stay. At some point Disney made the decision for her and cancelled one of them. I'm guessing that if you actually did want to book and pay for two rooms at two different resorts, they would be put under the same confirmation number or somehow be tied together as part of the same reservation? That way they know you are not trying to "hide" one by calling two different times and making two separate reservations which end up being totally separate from one another? Just speculation on my part. I've never booked more than one room so I don't actually know how confirmation numbers are assigned, i.e., if you can have the same confirmation number refer to multiple rooms or if each room has to have it's own confirmation number, even if all of the rooms are part of the same reservation? Given that some people have large families and require more than one room (though usually at the same resort), they must have a way to tie multiple rooms together into one reservation. The question is, how does that work if those rooms are not at the same resort?

Yep I have to find out the answer to that - Because I was thinking of doing that on our next trip.

No one made any cancellations of any of my restaurant bookings automatically

 

[MommyBoo!]

this has me very curious - so then - If instead of booking a suite, I wanted to book the Yacht Club and the Contemporary for the same week or two so we could be close to MK when we were doing MK and then close to Epcot and MGM when we were doing Epcot and MGM they will no longer allow a family to have two or three rooms?

Are you talking about booking two resorts for different days within that time frame and switching from one resort to the other during your stay? Or booking two resorts for the exact same days and then canceling one?

The former is not a problem. The latter is what caused the cancellation the other poster mentioned.

 

[Pedler]

well thanks for your judgementalism - its 25 over the course of 14 days

FYI one definition of selfish, taken from dictionary.net is:

Selfish \Self"ish\, a.

1. Caring supremely or unduly for one's self; regarding one's own comfort, advantage, etc., in disregard, or at the expense, of those of others. [1913 Webster]

If would appear that in this case, while maybe unintentional, you were primary thinking of benefiting your family wihout considering the effect on others.

 

[Dopey Sharon]

pluperfect

Wait, I'm still looking up what permutations means.