Is anyone on the Dream right now? How did a girl fall overboard?

[Dug720]

I'm not going to argue with you about it, but I was responding to the statements that she put the daughter on the railings multiple times. That was shown to be inaccurate. That is all.

Which is NOT what I said when you were quoting me. The report that the link says the mother "elaborated that while on the cruise of previous days, had taken numerous pictures in several other portholes/ windows on the ship. She provided me with a picture of laying in a porthole with a window on it." The report also says that the mother DID encourage her to get on the rail in the porthole that was open.

 

[DCLMP]

I don't see where it's been proven inaccurate, but I am not going to argue with you

The police report stated that the mother took pictures around the ship with her daughter in various portholes. She did not put her on railings like the NYP article stated. I don't know how to clarify it anymore simply???

 

[DCLMP]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-mom-40-under-40-list-arrested-leaving-baby-florida-beach

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/natio...sted-infant-unattended-florida-beach/3708898/

This case in south Florida is even weirder, but it looks like they may face neglect charges.

 

[mjkacmom]

Which is NOT what I said when you were quoting me. The report that the link says the mother "elaborated that while on the cruise of previous days, had taken numerous pictures in several other portholes/ windows on the ship. She provided me with a picture of laying in a porthole with a window on it." The report also says that the mother DID encourage her to get on the rail in the porthole that was open.

And the mother said she did not know it was open.

 

[dreamer17555]

And the mother said she did not know it was open.

I think the mother is either in serious denial (due to the shame and trauma), has a lawyer telling her exactly what to say, or is extremely clueless to a dangerous degree. There is no way a rational person walking on deck 4 cannot tell that there is no glass above the rail.

 

[Dug720]

I think the mother is either in serious denial (due to the shame and trauma), has a lawyer telling her exactly what to say, or is extremely clueless to a dangerous degree. There is no way a rational person walking on deck 4 cannot tell that there is no glass above the rail.

Exactly. And the area around it is clearly different than the inside portholes designed for people to sit in. At the very least, check before encouraging your kid to climb on up.

 

[Mommb]

I think the mother is either in serious denial (due to the shame and trauma), has a lawyer telling her exactly what to say, or is extremely clueless to a dangerous degree. There is no way a rational person walking on deck 4 cannot tell that there is no glass above the rail.

I don't know if the mother would have had a lawyer already when she talked to the sheriff's office right after the cruise. It's possible, but I didn't see a lawyer mentioned in any of the articles. Shame, trauma, and cluelessness make sense.

One thing puzzling me is why it was even worth taking a picture from that porthole, especially if the mother had already taken photos of her daughter elsewhere looking out from the ship. There is no decoration there to indicate Disney, or even a cruise ship -- it's just an open window with water below.

 

[dreamer17555]

I don't know if the mother would have had a lawyer already when she talked to the sheriff's office right after the cruise. It's possible, but I didn't see a lawyer mentioned in any of the articles. Shame, trauma, and cluelessness make sense.

One thing puzzling me is why it was even worth taking a picture from that porthole, especially if the mother had already taken photos of her daughter elsewhere looking out from the ship. There is no decoration there to indicate Disney, or even a cruise ship -- it's just an open window with water below.

I would never answer any police questions about an incident of this level without speaking to a lawyer. Heck I would not suggest even answering even basic question by an officer for any incident (even traffic violations) and keeping it to "am I free to go?" unless I had legal representation.

(To be fair my DD23 is in grad school for criminal justice so I have been sent a lot of information about how things can be twisted . She sends me any studies or articles she finds interesting and most of them keep me up at night )