Is anyone else gonna watch the Tom Cruise interview tomorrow night?

[lsyorke]

Isn't that article from a publication that is similar to the National Enquirer? I keep reading 'I heard' or 'I saw', but where has either of the child's parents confirmed any of the rumours about how they will deliver or care for their child?

I know some Scientologists, and they don't do that.

Exactly. From what I've read about "silent birth" its keeping the birthing room calm and serene. Hmm, similar to most birthing methods.

 

[Taylor]

I give a rats butt about anything related to Tom Cruise.

 

[ashjohnson80]

No. but not because of Scientology. Because of Tom Cruise's ginormous ego.

 

[mickeymousemom]

People really need to take a good look at themselves before they go bashing other beliefs.
I love it when people of other religions that believe in bizarre things start spouting off about how crazy Scientology is.

I think its just a fact that Scientology comes off as being cult like. IMO, its a cult that just happens to have a huge following....I just studied this in my college Sociology class. Even my text book referred to it as more of a cult.

 

[Tiggeroo]

Exactly. From what I've read about "silent birth" its keeping the birthing room calm and serene. Hmm, similar to most birthing methods.

I can buy that. But please give me a rationalization for seperating the baby from the mother for a week. For calling breast milk dirty and refusing to use formula designed by dr's and making your own which dr's have called suspect at best.

 

[Planogirl]

Cult or not, to me these people are adults and can believe whatever they want. I don't understand why people are so fascinated with how they plan to give birth?

 

[Poohnatic]

Oh darn, I missed it.

Suzanne

 

[CathrynRose]

Cult or not, to me these people are adults and can believe whatever they want. I don't understand why people are so fascinated with how they plan to give birth?

I dont think its *just* the birth - it's the entire weirdness that they keep projecting. The birth was just the most recent icing on the cake.

 

[cardaway]

Once again, it's the tabloids giving these "insights' into the religion. Do folks believe everything else they report as well or only this stuff because they have rejected your religion?

It's this stuff about Scientology that shows the true state of religious diversity and acceptance in America. Crystal clear.

 

[AllyandJack]

What other organized religion stalks you?

The Salvation Army. No idea it was an actual religion until I ran smack into it. I've never used the word "cult" seriously until my experience with them.

 

[CathrynRose]

Once again, it's the tabloids giving these "insights' into the religion. Do folks everything else they report as well or only this stuf because they have rejected your religion?

It's this stuff about Scientology that shows the true state of religious diversity and acceptance in America. Crystal clear.

I, personally, dont read tabloids.

And you have NO idea what my relationship or connection to or is with, Scientology - or my experience(s). To question my, or anyone's diversity tolerance is .... what was that word I was called earlier in this thread?

 

[taeja71]

Yes, well, "galactic overlord" kind of reminds me of a few other religions that billions of people belong to. How is Scientology any weirder?
It isn't. It's just more new.

History of Scientology
The Church of Scientology was founded in 1954 based on the teachings of an American author named L. Ron Hubbard.


Lafayette Ronald Hubbard was born on March 13, 1911, in Tilden, Nebraska. The son of a naval commander, Hubbard moved to Montana at the age of two and traveled with his family over much of the country. His mother, who had attended teacher's college, tutored Hubbard at home, and he learned to read and write at a young age.

As a young boy, Hubbard established a friendship with a tribe of Blackfoot Indians living near his Helena, Montana home. This unique opportunity enabled him to learn much about the culture, customs and legends of the tribe. At the age of six, Hubbard was given the rare honor of becoming a blood brother of the Blackfoot Indians.

In 1923, Hubbard moved with his family to Seattle, Washington, where he joined the Boy Scouts. At the age of 13, he became the youngest Eagle Scout ever. The same year, the young Hubbard traveled to Washington, D.C. by way of the Panama Canal. Along the way, he established another influential friendship, this time with Naval Commander Joseph C. Thompson. Commander Thompson had been sent by the US Navy Marine Corps to study under Sigmund Freud, and he taught Hubbard much about Freudian theory.

In 1927, Hubbard embarked on the first of his many journeys to Asia. By the age of 19, he had traveled more than 250,000 miles - including China, Japan, Guam, and the Philippines. In the course of these travels, he befriended Old Mayo, a Beijing magician, spent time at Buddhist lamaseries in the Western Hills of China, and spent time with nomadic bandits of Mongolian descent.

Clearly, Hubbard learned and experienced much during his Asian travels, but he was left discouraged by what he observed:

For all the wonders of these lands and all his respect for those whom he encountered, he still saw much that concerned him: Chinese beggars willing themselves to die above open graves in Beijing, children who were less than rags, widespread ignorance and despair. And in the end, he came to the inescapable conclusion that despite the wisdom of its ancient texts, the East did not have the answers to the miseries of the human condition. It remained evident in the degradation and sorrow of its people. ( www.aboutlronhubbard.org )

In 1929, Hubbard returned to the United States and resumed his formal education. After graduating from the Woodword School for Boys in Washington, D.C., he enrolled in the mathematics and engineering program at George Washington University. In the course of this study, Hubbard theorized that subatomic particles might assist in understanding how the human mind worked, and recognized the great importance of keeping mankind under control in light of atomic studies. He also became keenly disappointed with the knowledge of the psychologists he consulted with. As Hubbard described it:

To be very blunt, it was very obvious that I was dealing with and living in a culture which knew less about the mind than the lowest primitive tribe I had ever come in contact with. Knowing also that people in the East were not able to reach as deeply and predictably into the riddles of the mind as I had been led to expect, I knew I would have to do a lot of research.
Thus, the result of Hubbard's many travels, experiences, and studies was a determination to discover how the human mind works. Hubbard left college before graduating and made the world his research laboratory. His research was financed by becoming one of the most famous authors of the 1930s. He wrote well over 200 novels and short stories in the genres of science fiction, western, mystery and adventure.

In 1938, Hubbard discovered what he believed to be the common denominator of existence, which was: SURVIVE. In a philosophic work entitled "Excalibur," Hubbard wrote:

I suddenly realized that survival was the pin on which you could hang the rest of this with adequate and ample proof. It’s a very simple problem. Idiotically simple! That’s why it never got solved. Nobody has ever looked at anything being that simple to do that much. So what do we find as the simplicities of solution? The simplicities of solution lie in this: that life, all life, is trying to survive. And life is composed of two things: the material universe and an X-factor. And this X-factor is something that can evidently organize, and mobilize the material universe.
Hubbard served as a Navy Lieutenant in World War II, and the bloodshed and its effects on man's mind that he observed made him more determined than ever to discover the answers to the human mind. In 1945, he was hospitalized at Oak Knoll Naval Hospital in Oakland, California. While recovering, he took the opportunity to experiment with the idea that mental blocks can prevent medical treatments from being effective. He found this theory to work on numerous patients, and concluded: "Thought is boss."

After the war, Hubbard continued to test his hypotheses on a broad sample of people from all over the United States. He is said to have helped over 400 hundred people become healthier with the procedures he had developed, including himself. These procedures came to be called "Dianetics."

In 1949, Hubbard's first published article on Dianetics appeared in the Explorers Club Journal. He also presented his findings to the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association, but neither were interested in his work. Hubbard and his friends concluded that the medical establishment felt their way of life threatened by the simplicity of Dianetics and were motivated by greed rather than helping others. Hubbard therefore presented his findings directly to the public.

In May 1950, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health was published, and went on to sell over 17 million copies. He wrote six books in 1951 on Dianetics technology and began lecturing all over the country. According to the Church of Scientology, over 750 groups were putting Dianetics technology into practice by the end of 1950.

Despite this success, Hubbard still puzzled over some unanswered questions. Although he felt he had discovered the mechanism of the mind, he wrote that "the further one investigated, the more one came to understand that here, in this creature **** sapiens, were far too many unknowns. This new avenue of research, into the human spirit, was the focus of the next three decades of Hubbard's study and writing. It is out of this period that Scientology was born.

In 1954, Scientologists, not Hubbard, founded the first Church of Scientology in Los Angeles. As Scientologists describe it, "L. Ron Hubbard founded the subject - early Scientologists founded the church."

In 1959 Hubbard and his family moved to England. He bought the Saint Hill Manor in Sussex, which was to be his home for the next seven years and the worldwide headquarters of the Church of Scientology.

In the 1960s, Hubbard developed a step-by-step method for reaching higher spiritual awareness and ability, and trained Scientologists in this method. Hubbard also designed administrative principles for Scientology organizations.

On September 1, 1966, Hubbard resigned as Executive Director of the Church of Scientology, and spent the next seven years at sea devoted to research. During this time, he developed a drug rehabilitation program, as well as the highest levels of Scientology and further administrative principles.

From 1975 to 1979, Hubbard lived in La Quinta, California, where he wrote (and in many cases directed) numerous training films on the application of his principles.

In 1980, Hubbard published The Way to Happiness, a "nonreligious moral code based on common sense," of which over 35 million copies have been printed. About this book Hubbard commented:

Reading the papers and wandering around in the society, it was pretty obvious that honesty and truth were not being held up to the standards they once had. People and even little kids in schools have gotten the idea that high moral standards are a thing of the past. Man has in his hands today a lot of violent weapons. He doesn’t have the moral standards to go with them.

Hubbard died on January 24, 1986.

story link http://www.religionfacts.com/scientology/history.htm

Check this out:
Fast Facts on Scientology


date founded: 1954
place founded: California, USA
founder: L. Ron Hubbard (1911-1986)
adherents: 8 million
main location: Western United States
texts: Dianetics and Scientology by L. Ron Hubbard
original language: English
spiritual leader: auditor
place of meeting: church
theism: not specified
ultimate reality: The Eighth Dynamic or Infinity
human nature: consists of body, mind and thetan; capable of great things
purpose of life: gain spiritual freedom by ridding one's mind of engrams
afterlife: reincarnation
symbols: Double "S"; shining cross
special days: March 13 - Hubbard's birthday (in 1911) May 9 - publication of Dianetics (in 1950) 2nd Sunday in September - Auditor's Day October 7 - annual meeting of International Association of Scientologists
Eight Dynamics: 1. Self (the urge to survive as an individual)
2. Creativity (the urge to survive through family).
3. Group survival (the urge to survive through a group such as a nation, team, community, race, etc.)
4. Species (the urge to survive through the survival of the human species)
5. Life forms (the urge for life itself)
6. Physical universe (the urge of the universe to survive)
7. Spiritual dynamic (the urge for the survival of the life source)
8. Infinity (the urge to exist as infinity or God)

story link http://www.religionfacts.com/scientology/beliefs.htm

 

[taeja71]

Glossary of Scientology

A
ARC a word made from the initial letters of Affinity, Reality and Communication, which together equate to Understanding. It is pronounced by stating its letters, A-R-C. To Scientologists it has come to mean good feeling, love or friendliness, such as, "He was in ARC with his friend." One does not, however, fall out of ARC; he has an ARC break.
ARC break a sudden drop or cutting of one's affinity, reality or communication with someone or something. Upsets with people or things come about because of a lessening or sundering (breaking apart) of affinity, reality or communication or understanding. It's called an ARC break instead of an upset, because if one discovers which of the three points of understanding have been cut, one can bring about a rapid recovery in the person's state of mind.
ARC triangle a triangle which is a symbol of the fact that affinity, reality and communication act together as a whole entity and that one of them cannot be considered unless the other two are also taken into account. Without affinity there is no reality or communication. Without reality or some agreement, affinity and communication are absent. Without communication there can be no affinity or reality. It is only necessary to improve one corner of this very valuable triangle in Scientology in order to improve the remaining two corners.
auditing the application of Dianetics or Scientology processes and procedures to someone by a trained auditor. The exact definition of auditing is: The action of asking a person a question (which he can understand and answer), getting an answer to that question and acknowledging him for that answer.
auditor a person trained and qualified in applying Dianetics and/or Scientology processes and procedures to individuals for their betterment; called an auditor because auditor means one who listens.
Auditor's Code a collection of rules (do's and don'ts) that an auditor follows while auditing someone, which ensures that the preclear will get the greatest possible gain out of the processing that he is having. It was evolved from years of observing processing.
B

banky being influenced by bank and displaying bad temper, irritability, lack of cooperation and the signs of dramatization; irrational.
between-lives area the experiences of a thetan during the time between the loss of a body and the assumption of another.
Bridge, The the route to Clear and OT, which we call the Classification, Gradation and Awareness Chart. It is a term originating in early Dianetics days to symbolize travel from unknowingness to revelation.
bullbaiting a method of drilling whereby a coach attempts to find certain actions, words, phrases, mannerisms or subjects that cause the student doing the drill to become distracted from the drill by reacting to the coach. As a bullfighter attempts to attract the bull's attention and control the bull, so does the coach attempt to attract and control the student's attention, however the coach flunks the student whenever he succeeds in distracting the student from the drill and then repeats the action until it no longer has any affect on the student.
C

Classification, Gradation and Awareness Chart the route to Clear and the OT states beyond, also called The Bridge to Total Freedom, or The Bridge. Classification means that there are certain actions required to be done or conditions to be attained before an individual is classified for a particular training level and allowed to progress up. Gradation means a gradual grade up, just as there are grades to a road or there are grades to steps. Awareness refers to one's own awareness, which improves as one progresses up. On the right side of this chart there are various steps called the States of Release. The left-hand side of the chart describes the very important steps of training on which one gains the knowledge and abilities necessary to deliver the Grades of Release to another. It is a guide for the individual from the point where he first becomes dimly aware of a Scientologist or Scientology and shows him how and where he should move up in order to make it. Scientology contains the entire map for getting the individual through all the various points on this gradation scale and for getting him across the Bridge to higher states of existence.
cleaning a clean attempting to clean up or deal with something that has already been cleaned up or dealt with or that wasn't troublesome to the person in the first place.
Clear the name of a state achieved through auditing or an individual who has achieved this state. A Clear is a being who no longer has his own reactive mind. A Clear is an unaberrated person and is rational in that he forms the best possible solutions he can on the data he has and from his viewpoint. The Clear has no engrams which can be restimulated to throw out the correctness of computation by entering hidden and false data.
Code of a Scientologist a code which governs the activity of a Scientologist in general. It was evolved from many years of observation and experience and is subscribed to by leading Scientologists.
D

demon a mechanical mechanism set up by an engram which takes over a portion of the analyzer and acts as an individual being. A bona fide demon is one who gives thoughts voice or echoes the spoken word interiorly or who gives all sorts of complicated advice like a real, live voice exteriorly.
demon circuit part of an engram which is set up and has a specific command. "You've got to control yourself" is typical of one of these circuits.
Dianetics Dianetics spiritual healing technology. It addresses and handles the effects of the spirit on the body and can alleviate such things as unwanted sensations and emotions, accidents, injuries and psychosomatic illnesses (ones that are caused or aggravated by mental stress). Dianetics means "through the soul" (from Greek dia, through, and nous, soul). It is further defined as "what the soul is doing to the body."
E back to top ˆ

E-meter the Hubbard Electrometer is a religious artifact used in the Church confessional. It, in itself does nothing, and is used by ministers only, to assist parishioners in locating areas of spiritual distress or travail. The E-meter is not intended or effective for diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. It passes a tiny current through the preclear's body. This current is influenced by the mental masses, pictures, circuits and machinery. When the unclear pre-clear thinks of something, these mental items shift and this registers on the meter.
engram a mental image picture which is a recording of an experience containing pain, unconsciousness and a real or fancied threat to survival. It is a recording in the reactive mind of something which actually happened to an individual in the past and which contained pain and unconsciousness, both of which are recorded in the mental image picture called an engram. It must, by definition, have impact or injury as part of its content. These engrams are a complete recording, down to the last accurate detail, of every perception present in a moment of partial or full unconsciousness
engram bank the reactive mind, that portion of the mind which works on a stimulus-response basis (given a certain stimulus it will automatically give a certain response) which is not under a person's volitional control and which exerts force and power over a person's awareness, purposes, thoughts, body and actions. It consists of locks, secondaries, engrams and chains of them and is the single source of human aberration and psychosomatic ills.
ethical code a code of certain restrictions indulged in to better the manner of conduct of life. A person conducts himself according to such a code because he wants to or because he feels he is proud enough or decent enough or civilized enough to so conduct himself.
G back to top ˆ

Grades of Release: Expanded ARC Straightwire: Recall Release; Freedom from deterioration; has hope; knows he/she won't get any worse.
Grade 0: Communications Release; Ability to communicate freely with anyone on any subject.
Grade I: Problems Release; Ability to recognize the source of problems and make them vanish.
Grade II: Relief Release; Relief from hostilities and the sufferings of life.
Grade III: Freedom Release; Freedom from the upsets of the past and ability to face the future.
Grade IV: Ability Release; Moving out of fixed conditions and gaining abilities to do new things.
Grade V: Power Release; Ability to handle power.
Grade VA: Power Plus Release; Recovery of knowledge.
Grade VI: Whole Track Release; Return of powers to act on own determinism.
Grade VII: a Grade VII is not a Release Grade. It is a Clear, a being who no longer has his own reactive mind. A complete list of the abilities gained for each of these Grades of Release can be found in the book Scientology 0-8: The Book of Basics.


K back to top ˆ

KRC triangle the upper triangle in the Scientology symbol. The points are K for knowledge, R for responsibility, and C for control. It is difficult to be responsible for something or control something unless you have knowledge of it. It is folly to try to control something or even know something without responsibility. It is hard to fully know something or be responsible for something over which you have no control, otherwise the result can be overwhelm. Little by little one can make anything go right by increasing Knowledge on all dynamics, increasing Responsibility on all dynamics, increasing Control on all dynamics.

L back to top ˆ

Life Repair a series of auditing actions run on a preclear who is starting out in auditing for the first time. Life Repair would address such things as rough spots in life, periods which the preclear may feel bad about, areas of overwhelm, etc.

M back to top ˆ

mental image picture a copy of the physical universe as it goes by; we call a mental image picture a facsimile when it is a "photograph" of the physical universe sometime in the past. We call a mental image picture a mock-up when it is created by the thetan or for the thetan and does not consist of photographs of the physical universe. We call a mental image picture a hallucination, or more properly an automaticity (something uncontrolled), when it is created by another and seen by self.
misemotion a coined word in Dianetics and Scientology, often used loosely to refer to anything that is unpleasant emotion, such as antagonism, anger, fear, grief, apathy or a death feeling. The full meaning of misemotion is an emotion or emotional reaction that is inappropriate to the present time situation. It is taken from mis- (wrong) + emotion. To say that a person was misemotional would indicate that the person did not display the emotion called for by the actual circumstances of the situation. Being misemotional would be synonymous with being irrational. One can fairly judge the rationality of any individual by the correctness of the emotion he displays in a given set of circumstances. To be joyful and happy when circumstances call for joy and happiness would be rational. To display grief without sufficient present time cause would be irrational.
N

not-isness the effort to handle isness by reducing its condition through the use of force. It is an apparency and cannot entirely vanquish an isness.

O

Objective Process objective refers to outward things, not the thoughts or feelings of the individual. An Objective Process deals with the real and observable. It calls for the preclear to spot or find something exterior to himself in order to carry out the auditing command. It locates the person in his environment, establishes direct communication with the auditor, and brings a person to present time, a very important factor in mental and spiritual sanity and ability.
Operating Thetan (OT) it is a state of beingness. It is a being "at cause over matter, energy, space, time, form and life." Operating comes from "able to operate without dependency on things," and Thetan is the Greek letter Theta, which the Greeks used to represent thought or perhaps spirit, to which an n is added to make a noun in the modern style used to create words in engineering. It is also "theta to the nth degree," meaning unlimited or vast. Abbreviation: OT.
P
potential trouble source someone who is connected with a suppressive person who is invalidating him, his beingness, his processing, his life; someone connected to a person or a group opposed to Scientology. This connection results in illness and roller coaster (gets better, then gets worse). Processing would work with such a person for a moment, then wouldn't work. One can't audit this person up faster than the environment knocks him down. Because the case doesn't get well, he is a potential trouble source to Scientology organizations, to others and to himself.
prenatal a Dianetics term used to denote (refer to) an engram which is received before birth.
R
reactive mind that portion of a person's mind which works on a totally stimulus-response basis, which is not under his volitional control and which exerts force and the power of command over his awareness, purposes, thoughts, body and actions. The reactive mind is where engrams are stored.
Release the term for what occurs when a person separates from his reactive mind or some part of it. The degree and relative permanence of being pulled out of the reactive mind determines the state of Release. There are a number of states or stages of Release and these are called Grades.
religious philosophy a term which implies study of spiritual manifestations; research on the nature of the spirit and study on the relationship of the spirit to the body.
R-factor reality factor. It is the action of the auditor telling the pc what the auditor is going to do at each new step. This gives the pc more reality on what is occurring in the auditing session.

S

Scientologist one who knows he has found the way to a better life through Scientology and who, through Scientology books, tapes, training and processing, is actively attaining it.
Scientology Scientology applied religious philosophy. It is the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, universes and other life. Scientology means scio, knowing in the fullest sense of the word and logos, study. In itself the word means literally knowing how to know. Scientology is a "route," a way, rather than a dissertation or an assertive body of knowledge. Through its drills and studies one may find the truth for himself. The technology is therefore not expounded as something to believe, but something to do.
Scientology Drug Rundown a rundown (series of auditing actions) which uses Scientology auditing techniques to handle the harmful effects of drugs, medicine and alcohol on a case. This rundown extroverts a person, brings him into present time, and allows him to experience the relief and expansion available to one who has been freed from the influence of drugs.
space opera of or relating to time periods on the whole track millions of years ago which concerned activities in this and other galaxies. Space opera has space travel, spaceships, spacemen, intergalactic travel, wars, conflicts, other beings, civilizations and societies, and other planets and galaxies. It is not fiction and concerns actual incidents and things that occurred on the track.
stable datum one datum, one factor, one particular in a confusion of particles that keeps things from being in a confusion and on which other things can be aligned. Any confusing motion can be understood by conceiving one thing to be motionless. The one thing selected and used becomes the stable datum for the remainder.
Standard Technology the exact processes and auditing actions laid down by L. Ron Hubbard and used for the invariable resolution of cases, taught in the organizations of Scientology and used without variation by all Scientology auditors. The term applies equally to Dianetics and its technology.
Straightwire the name of a process. It is the act of stringing a line between present time and some incident in the past, and stringing that line directly and without any detours. The auditor is stringing a straight wire of memory between the actual genus (origin) of a condition and present time, thus demonstrating that there is a difference of time and space in the condition then and the condition now, and that the preclear, conceding this difference, then rids himself of the condition or at least is able to handle it. The motto of Straightwire could be said to be, "Discover the actual genus of any condition and you will place the condition under the control of the preclear."
suppress to squash, to sit on, to make smaller, to refuse to let reach, to make uncertain about his reaching, to render or lessen in any way possible by any means possible, to the harm of the individual and for the fancied protection of a suppressor.
suppressive acts actions or omissions undertaken knowingly to suppress, reduce or impede Scientology or Scientologists. (Such actions are high crimes and result in dismissal from Scientology and its organizations.)
suppressive person or group a person or group of persons who actively seek to suppress or damage Scientology or a Scientologist by suppressive acts.
T
theta energy peculiar to life or a thetan which acts upon material in the physical universe and animates it, mobilizes it and changes it; natural creative energy of a thetan which he has free to direct toward survival goals, especially when it manifests itself as high tone, constructive communications.
Theta Clear a person who operates exterior to the body without need of a body.
thetan the person himself-not his body or his name, the physical universe, his mind, or anything else; that which is aware of being aware; the identity which is the individual. The term was coined to eliminate any possible confusion with older, invalid concepts. It comes from the Greek letter Theta, which the Greeks used to represent thought or perhaps spirit, to which an n is added to make a noun in the modern style used to create words in engineering. It is also "theta to the nth degree," meaning unlimited or vast.
Theta Universe 1. thought matter (ideas), thought energy, thought space, and thought time, combined in an independent universe analogous to the material universe. One of the purposes of theta is postulated as the conquest, change, and ordering of mest. (From Science of Survival Glossary)
2. is a postulated reality for which there exists much evidence. (From Science of Survival, page 99.)
W
whole track the moment to moment record of a person's existence in this universe in picture and impression form.

story link- http://www.religionfacts.com/scientology/glossary.htm

 

[Daxx]

From People Magazine on-line:

"Tom performed a perfect landing," says photographer Brigitte Lacombe. "Then he jumped out onto the runway in his flight helmet. It was perfect." And what did Holmes think? As she later told the crew, "I feel like the coolest girl in the world."
Oh, please ... she sounds like she's 12 yo!

 

[Holly]

I, personally, dont read tabloids.

And you have NO idea what my relationship or connection to or is with, Scientology - or my experience(s). To question my, or anyone's diversity tolerance is .... what was that word I was called earlier in this thread?

I believe it was arrogant.. and passive aggressive.

HTH

 

[CathrynRose]

I believe it was arrogant.. and passive aggressive.

HTH

Wow - Glad to see youre having fun.

 

[Holly]

Wow - Glad to see youre having fun.

Actually, CathrynRose, I don't find it 'fun' to watch someone's beliefs ripped to shreds. It doesn't matter whether they are Scientologists, Sikhs, Christians, or whatever- I find it pathetic.

 

[Daxx]

the Hubbard Electrometer is a religious artifact used in the Church confessional. It, in itself does nothing, and is used by ministers only, to assist parishioners in locating areas of spiritual distress or travail. The E-meter is not intended or effective for diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. It passes a tiny current through the preclear's body. This current is influenced by the mental masses, pictures, circuits and machinery. When the unclear pre-clear thinks of something, these mental items shift and this registers on the meter.

Huh? If you're going to confession, you darn well should know what's wrong! In most religions, when it comes to confession, you have to examine your own soul! Ain't nobody else (nor machine) who is going to do it for you!

space opera of or relating to time periods on the whole track millions of years ago which concerned activities in this and other galaxies. Space opera has space travel, spaceships, spacemen, intergalactic travel, wars, conflicts, other beings, civilizations and societies, and other planets and galaxies. It is not fiction and concerns actual incidents and things that occurred on the track.

What?! Space ships? Spacemen? Intergalactic travel? Does NASA know about this?

Can someone please be clear about the beliefs of Scientologists? Tom Cruise, on the People Magazine take on the Diane Sawyer interview said Cruise tells Sawyer. "I mean, you can be Catholic and be a Scientologist. You can be Jewish and be a Scientologist. But we're just Scientologists." So, is that correct? If so, is Scientology not a religion and more of a ... geez ... I don't know ... a lifestyle? If so, then why the need for the galactic overlord, Xenu?

Each level of Scientology requires a huge cash donation to be enlightened into the next level. $20,000 $50,000

What?! What other religion demands that kind of cash to move on to enlightenment levels? Religious ed. fees around here are about $20 and that's to pay for the book the kids use. We're not talking collection baskets here, people ... we're talking about religious education. Exactly how many levels of enlightenment are there?

 

[CathrynRose]

Actually, CathrynRose, I don't find it 'fun' to watch someone's beliefs ripped to shreds. It doesn't matter whether they are Scientologists, Sikhs, Christians, or whatever- I find it pathetic.

Whatever...


Stating FACTS of the Scientology belief system is ripping them to shreds? Stating quotes of their own books is ripping them to shreds?

You should be having fun - learning what youre defending!

 

[AllyandJack]

What?! What other religion demands that kind of cash to move on to enlightenment levels? Religious ed. fees around here are about $20 and that's to pay for the book the kids use. We're not talking collection baskets here, people ... we're talking about religious education. Exactly how many levels of enlightenment are there?

The Salvation Army. You have to tithe 10%. You get a couple earning a decent living and they're on your back for $10,000 or more a year.