Insurance coverage of mobility device?

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DF is wanting an ECV so he can participate more in life, including going with the grandkids to WDW. He's been looking at used, but I wondered if insurance might cover some of the cost of a new one? Has anyone done this? If so, how should we get started? I'm assuming a doctor has to submit something saying it is needed, and fill out forms, etc.
 
I know that if he is a veteran, he can get one through the VA. I don't know if there is a cost or if it is a free service? We donated our Dad's ECV to the VA when he passed away. They came and got it and were very glad to get it. Otherwise, I don't know?
 
With proper documentation (as in he needs this-not just wants one) as well as a physicians order, medicare should cover it. I know Medicare covers wheelchairs in such cases. Most private insurance probably won't.
 
Ask your doctor. Keep in mind that if you qualify that you can't just pick out any scooter. I'm sure there's a dollar limit. Scooters can run from $600 to $3000.
 

Check with your insurance company, many will only cover it if he needs it to get around your home, not for participating in things outside the home. The VA is great about them if he is eligible.
 
It's getting to the point that he can't leave the house because he can't even walk to/from the car. He has multiple problems with his hip, but due to his lungs he can't have surgery. Pain management is his only option. We've priced them out and know that a new one would run him upward of $3k. We also know insurance might say he is SOL. But I figure it can't hurt to do some research on the possibility of insurance paying a portion.
 
And the pain management he is on does not impact his ability to drive. It's all OTC along with gabapentin, except for nighttime when he adds a narcotic.
 
It's going to depend on what the doctor will provide for documentation proving need as well as what the insurance company will cover. Several years ago now but our insurance denied a request for a special needs stroller for DD despite considerable efforts by both her doctor and her PT, because it wasn't needed for daily use. But others have reported getting something covered through their insurance, so insurances vary so much that nobody here can really tell you what will happen. IF it is approved, he will need to go through the vendor designated by the insurance, and possibly not have much choice of model... but worth pursuing to see if it would be covered.

Good luck!
 
It depends on your insurance, if you have Medicare I know there are a lot of hoops to jump through to get mobility devices covered, my mom thought about trying to get a small scooter covered and her doctor told her the process was long and difficult so we just decided to buy it ourselves to save the hassle. You can get scooters for under a $1000 online just depends on what you want in the scooter, you can even go to a medical supplier some will sell their old floor models at a decent price when they are getting rid of older models for newer ones. If you have private insurance it just depends on your insurance, but usually they will cover a portion of a medically necessary mobility device.

I know with my insurance (private plan, not employee or government connected) that for mobility devices the doctor has to prescribe the device, you have to go to a physical therapist to be evaluated for a mobility device and then the therapist (or your doctor) has to write a letter of medical necessaity to provide to the insurance. Once you have all that then the insurance will tell you what portion they cover and you will work with a DME supplier to see what specific brands, models, etc. are covered and then they'll order it for you.

The thing is your doctor and the physical therapist that are evaluating you have to agree that you need a wheelchair, powerchair, scooter etc. and the insurance will take that into consideration, if it's just a thing he wants then they may not cover it vs. an assistance device he must have. Since you said he has numerous issues it would be worth looking into to see if you can get some help from your insurance, I'd get the process started by getting the doctors prescription and getting it to a DME supplier in your insurance network and let them help you from there.

I know you said you looked into scooters and they would be over $3000, but I'd suggest you try to keep looking because I know from my experience getting a scooter for my mom that there are a lot of cheaper options out there, especially if he isn't going to be using it in his home, they may not have all the bells and whistles but those may not be necessary anyway. Good luck getting some help through insurance and finding the right scooter for his needs!
 
Amazon has many under $1000 (which his insurance wouldn't cover because it's not their supplier.) Also try craigslist, and your local Masons. And church.
 
Check with local Office on Aging and hospital social workers who deal with this often. Don't take one doctor's word about a process being long and difficult as they may not know or don't want their and their staff's time taken with this.
 
Check with local Office on Aging and hospital social workers who deal with this often. Don't take one doctor's word about a process being long and difficult as they may not know or don't want their and their staff's time taken with this.

Both my daughters require a mobility stroller for trips outside the home. I have opted to retrofit a double stroller as long as is humanly possible and after that will probably opt to pay out of pocket. Or learn how to weld my own. Either way will be less time/effort/money.
I am an RN Care Manager. I am the "Hospital Social worker who deal with this often" It's a epic nightmare. You fill out the required paperwork exactly as specified on the form and send it it. It comes back. They want a DOCTOR to fill it out. You bribe a doctor to fill out out (ie stand over the doctor's shoulder providing step-by-step instructions enduring complaining the whole time) and send it in. It comes back. They want the Primary Doctor to fill it out. This is the 21st century. The "Primary Doctor" is often a Nurse Practitioner. You call. You are on hold for 43 minutes. You finally get someone. You have a heated discourse about how this particular patient cannot possible be under the care of a Nurse Practitioner. They MUST have a doctor. They promise to call you back. The patient calls you wondering why you haven't sent in their form yet. You explain that you have. They assert they called and the company says they haven't gotten it yet. They call your manager. You explain again. You have to call and leave another message for the company. Another day goes by. You get another strongly worded notification from someone in this circle that the patient is still waiting for their mobility device WHAT IS THE HOLDUP? You call again. Finally you find the magic person at the company. And....they mystically tell you that they have all the information they need and everything is all set. You feel fantastic. You did it. You inform the patient of your muted triumph.
You get a call from the patient a week later that something is not working out with this DME provider (often an insurance issue). They have located a better/preferred DME provider. They will be sending the order over, because it needs to be redone. :scared:

Knee brace infomercials are worse....

(sorry about the rant)
 
You sound really stressed out.

I stand by my advice to the OP. I have dealt with these types of issues.
 
Check with local Office on Aging and hospital social workers who deal with this often. Don't take one doctor's word about a process being long and difficult as they may not know or don't want their and their staff's time taken with this.

Sadie, are you in the United States?

Respectfully, the reason I ask is because our experience with trying to get DME approved by insurance is much, much closer to what @WonderlandisReality wrote about.

My husband works for a major airline that is widely regarded as having some of the best benefits in the industry, but their insurance won't pay for anything other than an old-school weighs-a-ton push wheelchair that does not meet my needs or abilities at all. We paid out of pocket for both of my personal mobility devices after jumping through every hoop, filling out every form, calling everyone we could. After it was denied, we filed an appeal, to no avail. During the entire process, I had the full support of my specialist, my PCP, and the nurses (who do the bulk of the work). They were willing to fill out any form, sign any paper, fax any fax...

And the outcome was still the same.

The majority of insurers in the United States simply won't cover a "scooter"/ECV/personal electric mobility device. Now, if I had been at the point where I required a powered wheelchair, that *might* have been different, but medically I don't (yet) meet that criteria.

I have fought this fight this more than once - when our daughter was younger we battled long and hard to get her a motorized device, but we wound up buying all of her equipment out of pocket. When the time came that I had to use a personal mobility device, the same thing happened.

I cannot speak for any state other than the one we live in, but Medicaid typically does not pay for such devices.

If you are on Medicare, you can (sometimes) get an ECV "free" (I use quotes here because it isn't free - someone has to pay for it...) but as budget cuts have been implemented and fraudulent claims have been found, it's now more difficult to get one of those "free" scooters delivered to your door. We have a friend who works at the VA, and he recently told us that it's even getting to be more difficult for him to get a lot of the accommodations that they used to take for granted would be approved.

Most Hospital Social Workers experience exactly what @WonderlandisReality described on a daily basis. Most local senior service agencies have pitifully thin budgets that are stretched to the max; they may have a lending closet full of older used equipment... or they may not.

Sadly, there isn't a lot of consistency in the outcomes of these quests for equipment. I hope that someday there will be a system in place that deals fairly and equitably with everyone - and that I live long enough to see it!
 
Check your options about paying out of pocket. Most private insurance usually will not pay for a mobility device unless it is needed to function within the home. They don't care about you having a life outside your house.

I have "excellent" health insurance through my employer and it took over a year and multiple evaluations to get my custom manual wheelchair. After all that, there was still considerable expense out of pocket. Insurance covered the frame and wheels rims but not the seat, foot rests, front caster wheels or tires for the wheels. We thought about ordering the chair just with what insurance would pay for and then contacting a local news station.

My father tried to get an ECV through Medicare. It was such a hassle that he ended up paying out of pocket for it. It was a sacrifice for him.
 
If you are willing to go out of pocket. Oftentimes you can go onto the European web sites and find what you need. Price with shipping to USA is competitive BUT prices shown are with VAT. Without VAT is 20% less but typically you have to call the company to see if they do a VAT waiver. And the waiver is you write down the diagnoses and you (not the doctor) sign the form. My friend got her son's medical stroller in 16 days after waiting 8 months for nothing to happen.
 













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