Incredibles wins and will soon end relationship with Disney

[georgeat]

Good observation SnackyStacky. Dancing Bear id you read the entire book?

 

[SnackyStacky]

I agree "anti-Eisner" may be a bit of a broad description. Stewart gives credit to Eisner's earlier accomplishments, and I believe that he genuinely came to the conclusion that Eisner is a bad guy; however, hearing him talk about Roy Disney's relationship with Walt, and reading the excerpts in the Wall Street Journal, I'm not sure if I fully trust his judgment--I think perhaps he was less skeptical than he should have been about the motives of those who are all too willing to say bad things about Eisner and Iger.

Those things may be true, but when you're talking about folks like Jobs and Katzenberg, there are no innocents.

I don't think that you can base an opinion a Wall Street Journal excerpt. I don't even feel comfortable making an assessment when I haven't finished the book.

And I'm pretty much to the part where Disney is scared stupid of what the 2% of everything Katzenberg touched will amount to if they let him go. And while he's not somebody I'd want to work for, his portrayal in the book is really the one who got the short end of the stick.

 

[DancingBear]

I don't think that you can base an opinion a Wall Street Journal excerpt. I don't even feel comfortable making an assessment when I haven't finished the book.

And I'm pretty much to the part where Disney is scared stupid of what the 2% of everything Katzenberg touched will amount to if they let him go. And while he's not somebody I'd want to work for, his portrayal in the book is really the one who got the short end of the stick.

While I haven't read the book, I have, in addition to the Wall Street Journal excerpt, listened to and read the Motley Fool's radio interview with Stewart, and Stewart's column saying it's time for Eisner to go, and a number of book reviews.

Katzenberg is a great example of what I was trying to say earlier. Clearly, Eisner was a ******* to him, and made a mistake trying to screw Katz out of his compensation package, but Katzenberg's no lovable babe in the woods. All of these guys--Eisner, Katzenberg, Iger, Jobs, Braun, etc., are players in the game.

 

[DancingBear]

Good observation SnackyStacky. Dancing Bear id you read the entire book?

No. Have you read the Disney-Pixar Co-Production Agreement?

 

[SnackyStacky]

While I haven't read the book, I have, in addition to the Wall Street Journal excerpt, listened to and read the Motley Fool's radio interview with Stewart, and Stewart's column saying it's time for Eisner to go, and a number of book reviews.

Katzenberg is a great example of what I was trying to say earlier. Clearly, Eisner was a ******* to him, and made a mistake trying to screw Katz out of his compensation package, but Katzenberg's no lovable babe in the woods. All of these guys--Eisner, Katzenberg, Iger, Jobs, Braun, etc., are players in the game.

Again, I don't think you can formulate an educated opinion until you actually read the book. I saw his Today Show interviews (both of them) and I listened to his interview with Imus on MSNBC. None of the three of those interviews even touched the surface of what the book gets into in just the 1st part.

It's a fascinating read and a quick one at that. If only I had more time to read the darn thing so I could get to the present day stuff!!!!

 

[DancingBear]

Again, I don't think you can formulate an educated opinion until you actually read the book. I saw his Today Show interviews (both of them) and I listened to his interview with Imus on MSNBC. None of the three of those interviews even touched the surface of what the book gets into in just the 1st part.

Okay, I take back any characterization of the book, but I stand by the position that you can't say the Pixar/Disney relationship problems are 100% Eisner's fault.

 

[Plus4206]

I don't think anyone - including Jobs - would disagree that the partnership between Pixar and Disney was massively successfull beyond anyones wildest dream. It's also my opinion that Jobs knows Disney is the best future partner he could sign with.

If his ego won't allow him to deal with Eisner then he's not doing what's best for his stockholders. He may have his billions in the bank, but I'll bet more then just a few of his stockholders would prefer a little more money and a little less "I'll show you !" attitude.

When it comes to being spoiled and egotistical, ME does not have a monopoly.