Inaugural Disney Wine&Dine**1/2 Marathon** Post Race Discussion!

[wdwprncess77]

I had a crappy finish time (like 2:45),

I only dream to be this fast one day.

 

[CaptVMB]

Don't fret. I have totally winged a race before! But not by choice. In '07 when I did the DL 1/2 I had only trained for 2 weeks total. I started training 10 weeks prior to the race, then injured my knee playing football. I could walk with a knee brace, but no running. It healed up enough to run about 2 weeks prior to the race, and because I had already paid for everything, I just trained for 1 week and did the race. I had a crappy finish time (like 2:45), but I still finished. I had a bum knee, next to no training, and death valley weather, but I pushed through! You'll be fine. If nothing else, just run till you're tired, then walk for a few, then run some more. That's the best advice I can give you as a rookie.

Thanks for the advice! I guess I will just have to do my best from here on out and wing it on race day!

If you get picked up by the cart can they drop you 1/2 mile from the finish??

 

[becky11]

If nothing else, just run till you're tired, then walk for a few, then run some more.

This is pretty much my plan at the moment. I'm just hoping I get tired sometime after the finish line, but I'm guessing it'll be before that.

Not much time to run when you have a 4-year-old attached to your hip. Consequences of being away for 6 months.

 

[DisneylandForever]

hey everyone!

just wanted to say hi. this is my first long race (i'm doing the relay with my mom). i've been reading up on some of the tips you have all posted here and they are very helpful.

Well hello there!

I only dream to be this fast one day.

Aw! But yeah compare that time to someone like FireDancer's. He can moonwalk the 1/2 in the time it'll take me to run it!

Thanks for the advice! I guess I will just have to do my best from here on out and wing it on race day!

If you get picked up by the cart can they drop you 1/2 mile from the finish??

IMO you can't go wrong with that strategy. If you just want to finish and don't need a super low time, running/walking/jogging always works!

But lemme know if you hear back about that cart thing.

This is pretty much my plan at the moment. I'm just hoping I get tired sometime after the finish line, but I'm guessing it'll be before that.

Not much time to run when you have a 4-year-old attached to your hip. Consequences of being away for 6 months.

I can relate! Not to the kid thing, but having no time. I work full time and go to school full time, so I pretty much just run "when I can." But I have no problem resorting to run/walk/jog! In fact I'm counting on it.

 

[mousemgr2]

Am I really underestimating how hard this is going to be? Does anyone "wing" these races? Should I just try to be safe and walk the whole thing since I'm not prepared? Is there still time for me!? I wish I could just call it all off but my husband is doing the race too and he would die if I tried to quit. I talked him into doing this thing so I can't even talk to him about my concerns...what should I do?

Don't call it off! Will it be hard...it could be. Will it be worth it...absolutely. I understand how you are feeling. I just had surgery and I have a 1/2 marathon in 17 days. I am going to start the race and just wing it.

You can do it!!!

 

[marathonmommy]

That does make a very big difference which I think people who have never run at night might not realize. Running in 80 degree heat and 80% humidity with the sun beating down on you feels very different then running in 80 degree heat and 80% humidity with no sun.

Agreed, brother!

Don't fret. I have totally winged a race before! But not by choice. In '07 when I did the DL 1/2 I had only trained for 2 weeks total. I started training 10 weeks prior to the race, then injured my knee playing football. I could walk with a knee brace, but no running. It healed up enough to run about 2 weeks prior to the race, and because I had already paid for everything, I just trained for 1 week and did the race. I had a crappy finish time (like 2:45), but I still finished. I had a bum knee, next to no training, and death valley weather, but I pushed through! You'll be fine. If nothing else, just run till you're tired, then walk for a few, then run some more. That's the best advice I can give you as a rookie.

Ummm...the typical beginner (who hasn't trained) probably can't run a 2:45 half marathon let alone walk it! I am one of those who hope to break that time running! But....

Don't call it off! Will it be hard...it could be. Will it be worth it...absolutely. I understand how you are feeling. I just had surgery and I have a 1/2 marathon in 17 days. I am going to start the race and just wing it.

You can do it!!!

I do agree with both...you will be fine. What is the worst that will happen? You will get picked up by the sweeper van...that's happened to better people than me! Do it - it's for fun, not to break records!

 

[cobbler]

Am I really underestimating how hard this is going to be? Does anyone "wing" these races? Should I just try to be safe and walk the whole thing since I'm not prepared? Is there still time for me!? I wish I could just call it all off but my husband is doing the race too and he would die if I tried to quit. I talked him into doing this thing so I can't even talk to him about my concerns...what should I do?

Well I did something a couple of weeks ago and maybe you might be able to give it a try. I wanted to know what would happen worst case scenario in that what if I had to walk the entire thing - due to injury or whatever.

So one morning early I went out for a walk - 11 miles to be exact - and timed myself. I wanted to see how long it would take me. Now keep in mind I did have a brisk pace because I know there are timing requirements and I managed to average a 15 min per mile walk for those 11 miles. Honestly if I can go 11, what's 2 more. And I was fine! So that might be something you can give a try. I wasn't even sore the next day which really surprised me.

My plan at this point since I haven't trained as well as I'd hoped up to this point (stupid 90 degree humid weather ) is to jog the first 6 miles to build a cushion and walk/run the remainder.

Just a thought.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Does anyone else plan on running shirtless (men) or just a running bra (women)?

 

[Shannon84]

Starting with the last first...

Make sure to bring your 10k results with you to the expo. Before you should get a feel for how well coralled you are. But if you bring it and just ask you may get pushed up one anyway. All it takes is a few moments in the runner relations line at the expo. If the line is too long and you are in a close corall you will be OK. - not to sound as discomforting as the ananomous voice on the phone.

Without having the program out, I would assume the RD wants as many folks as possible at WWos before the 1-1.5 hour pre-race mark. So that would equate to a 7-9 bussing window (maybe 6-9). I will more than likely be out there by 7-7:30 if that is the window. Not sure why I am an early bird but it gives me time to rest and get in the game.

Again, I am sure that once the crew clears out the DL half we will be receiving tons of info.

I dont qualify for any corral, except for the very last So I am just worried by calculating wrong that I wont have place or something along those lines, I dont mind starting last, I just want to start haha

 

[cewait]

Soooo, I have REALLY slacked off and have not trained for 2 weeks. I don't know what it is, I could not get myself to do it. Then school started (I am a kindergarten teacher) and there was so much to do. After only 1.5 weeks of school I came home with a flu like cold and have been in bed since Saturday night. I plan to get back on it tomorrow. The longest I have gone so far is 5 miles and I have to run a little...walk a little...then run a little more. Am I really underestimating how hard this is going to be? Does anyone "wing" these races? Should I just try to be safe and walk the whole thing since I'm not prepared? Is there still time for me!? I wish I could just call it all off but my husband is doing the race too and he would die if I tried to quit. I talked him into doing this thing so I can't even talk to him about my concerns...what should I do?

First, do not push this week, allow yourself time to get well.

Try for 5 this weekend, 8 the following weekend (9/11), 10 (9/18) and 8 (9/25) and 13.1 (10/2)

If you try these runs you will have an OK half. If you fall short on one of the runs, adjust the remaining runs down by that same distance. This is not the ideal build up but you will want to have at least a couple 6-8+ mile runs, if possible.

Then as mentioned above, go out and give it a try. You may fail, you may succeed. You will have tried.

Does anyone else plan on running shirtless (men) or just a running bra (women)?

I gave that up for my 50's Maybe in a few years once I am in my 60's and don't care again.

 

[AmyBeth68]

Hello there! Hoping to find some 10 or 11 mpm runners who wouldn't mind some company.

 

[FireDancer]

btw Frank, that was a great time in the 5K! I am dreaming of getting into the 21 minute zone one of these days

Thank you. Keep pushing. It wasn't all that long ago that that was my goal too. It took me a while to get below 20, then below 19.

Hello there! I know it's been a while since I posted on here but I haven't been doing a lot of races in the past year and a half. I am registered for the Wine & Dine but am so incredibly sad that I lost my running partner to a very serious bike accident...so I'll be at the race alone if I decide to go now....and hoping to find some 10 or 11 mpm runners who wouldn't mind some company. It's going to be emotionally hard for me to run without my partner for a whole bunch of reasons...so I think I'll need some running buddies to help me get through it.

As I said....I'm not even sure I can do it at this point...but if I decide to....hoping there are some pace groups around . Thanks guys!

Sorry to hear about the accident. I'm sure you'll find someone to keep you company.

Does anyone else plan on running shirtless (men) or just a running bra (women)?

I pretty much run anything over 45 degrees without a shirt. I'm sure it is part mental but I feel way too warm otherwise.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

I pretty much run anything over 45 degrees without a shirt. I'm sure it is part mental but I feel way too warm otherwise.

Cool... I just wanted to make sure it was OK to pin the bib to my shorts, if it's gross out. However, I hope I don't get eaten alive by the Orlando insect brigade.

 

[FireDancer]

Cool... I just wanted to make sure it was OK to pin the bib to my shorts, if it's gross out. However, I hope I don't get eaten alive by the Orlando insect brigade.

You can most definitely pin your bib to your shorts. If the bibs don't have the timing strips on them I fold it so it is only as tall as the number and pin in pretty much center on the front of my shorts so the photographers can see it. If the bibs have the timing devices attached (as they did for my two spring halves) you can only fold them as small as the strips.

 

[CALIFLADY]

Okay, I've been lurking on this thread since page one. Now it's time to ask my burning questions.

1. Roughly (and I know EVERYONE's mileage will vary) how many miles can I/should I put on my Asics Gels and have reasonable confidence that I won't get injured? I run on concrete and asphalt 100% of the time.

2. I'm not following anyone's training program. I'm making it up as I go. I trained and ran two marathons in my early 30's in the late 90's, so I have some idea of what I'm doing. But I've never trained or run a half. And I'm now 40-something.

I've run two 8-milers and I ran a 10-miler last Saturday, all with good success. I have four weekends left to go, but I'm also heading down to WDW on 25 September, so I'll be walking and doing parks for a week before the race. Therefore, I know my legs are gonna be "heavy". Then I couldn't resist the idea of running in all four parks in one day, so I signed up for Mickey's 5K Fun Run on the morning of the W&D Half. I plan to slowly jog, if not walk the 5K, taking pictures along the way. But I'll still have that 13.1 to do later that night.

Thus my dilemma. I want to make sure that I'm well trained and ready for the pre-week of park-hopping, the 5K, then the half. So what should my long runs look like from here on out? I plan to run long on Friday, 24 September, before flying to Orlando on Saturday.

Should I run 12-10-12-8? Or 10-12-10-8? Or 12-10-10-9? Or 10-12-10-10? I just want to have the confidence to know that I can run that half on 2 October.

Any advice?

 

[FireDancer]

Califlady:

1.) The number I hear pretty much across the board on shoe mileage is 500. I have never really charted how many miles I put on mine but I can tell when they are starting to go. You'll notice the lack of spring in the shoe and will start to feel the smallest cracks and bumps and it will be time for new shoes.

2.) This one is a bit harder. I feel that once you can do a 10 mile training run you can do a half. The adrenaline and atmosphere will pull you that last 5K. I can't really say which of your choices will be best because it is as much about how you feel as how you plan. I would move the longest long run to at least 2 weeks out and maybe even 3. I really don't think the waling in the parks will be that big of a deal if you are well trained. Of course how you walk the parks will matter. If you go commando every day your legs will be heavy compared to touring the parks more leisurely.

As for the 5K and half on the same day, that comes down to training and expectations. You sound plenty trained so as long as you go slow in the 5K as you plan and make sure to stay hydrated and fuel during the day I don't think you'll have a problem.

Sorry I can't give you anything more specific but ten different people could take ten different approaches to your scenario and all could work just fine.

 

[marathonmommy]

Hello there! I know it's been a while since I posted on here but I haven't been doing a lot of races in the past year and a half. I am registered for the Wine & Dine but am so incredibly sad that I lost my running partner to a very serious bike accident...so I'll be at the race alone if I decide to go now....and hoping to find some 10 or 11 mpm runners who wouldn't mind some company. It's going to be emotionally hard for me to run without my partner for a whole bunch of reasons...so I think I'll need some running buddies to help me get through it.

As I said....I'm not even sure I can do it at this point...but if I decide to....hoping there are some pace groups around . Thanks guys!

If you think you can handle being more toward the 11 mpm mark, I would be happy to run with you. I can do the 10 mpm for a few miles, but cannot guarantee I would be able to "hang" for too long.

Oh, and maybe firedancer or cewait can answer . . . are there pace groups and how would one go about finding the right one? I've run in a couple of the January races, but never seemed to "run into" a pace group....or maybe I was just too far back in the pack! (I would love to find a pace group to keep me going. I would be looking for about an 11mpm group - maybe a "little" faster!)

 

[cewait]

Okay, I've been lurking on this thread since page one. Now it's time to ask my burning questions.

1. Roughly (and I know EVERYONE's mileage will vary) how many miles can I/should I put on my Asics Gels and have reasonable confidence that I won't get injured? I run on concrete and asphalt 100% of the time.

500 miles would be considered a maximum. A good plan would be to pick up a second pair of shoes and rotate with the older wones around 250-300 miles. It will be obvious at some point in the 350-500 mile range that it is time to retire the old shoes.

2. I'm not following anyone's training program. I'm making it up as I go. I trained and ran two marathons in my early 30's in the late 90's, so I have some idea of what I'm doing. But I've never trained or run a half. And I'm now 40-something.

I've run two 8-milers and I ran a 10-miler last Saturday, all with good success. I have four weekends left to go, but I'm also heading down to WDW on 25 September, so I'll be walking and doing parks for a week before the race. Therefore, I know my legs are gonna be "heavy". Then I couldn't resist the idea of running in all four parks in one day, so I signed up for Mickey's 5K Fun Run on the morning of the W&D Half. I plan to slowly jog, if not walk the 5K, taking pictures along the way. But I'll still have that 13.1 to do later that night.

Thus my dilemma. I want to make sure that I'm well trained and ready for the pre-week of park-hopping, the 5K, then the half. So what should my long runs look like from here on out? I plan to run long on Friday, 24 September, before flying to Orlando on Saturday.

Should I run 12-10-12-8? Or 10-12-10-8? Or 12-10-10-9? Or 10-12-10-10? I just want to have the confidence to know that I can run that half on 2 October.

Any advice?

I agree with Frank that once you get to 10 you are set. Though I am not a big taper person for the half. One week should be good. With regard to your options, If you feel the need to get the 12 milers in then I would definitely go for the distance. Not being sure of your past few weeks and whether you have had a pull back week, I would opt for the 10-12-10-8 plan.... If you have not had a week recently where miles have been reduced, I would even consider 8 on the first week of the series.

With regard to the 5k followed by the half, it is no worse that making a night jog and then a long run the next morning. Just make sure to have a nice recovery meal post 5k and get re-hydrated. In fact, the whole week, you should think hydration while in the parks. I would taper the park activity and make sure you did not push on Friday and possibly Thursday.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Marathonmommy and AmyBeth, I am hoping to keep a 10:18 pace.

 

[Mrs D]

Hello there! I know it's been a while since I posted on here but I haven't been doing a lot of races in the past year and a half. I am registered for the Wine & Dine but am so incredibly sad that I lost my running partner to a very serious bike accident...so I'll be at the race alone if I decide to go now....and hoping to find some 10 or 11 mpm runners who wouldn't mind some company. It's going to be emotionally hard for me to run without my partner for a whole bunch of reasons...so I think I'll need some running buddies to help me get through it.

As I said....I'm not even sure I can do it at this point...but if I decide to....hoping there are some pace groups around . Thanks guys!