In Search of My Body - Not the One I Ate, VOL 8...It's Never Too Late To Start Again!

[HockeyKat]

Lisa, I hear you, but you are by FAR the exception. Did you change your food intake at all? What is a typical food day for you?

 

[lisaviolet]

Sorry Jo - I muddied the info. I can't even remember what I took. But not yours. Tricyclic. 1990s.

I just wanted to add to the talk because I did gain. I wasn't eating more. And it was very rapid. And that hormones - change up - affect everyone differently. So some nothing. Some weight gain. Some brain fog. Some feel terrific.

 

[adsrtw]

How do you make the pizza? I could eat pizza everyday, I am in Chicago, home of the deep dish!!!
Also, dinner tonight is Stuffed Green Peppers with Ground Turkey & Brown Rice!, so I am trying.

I broil zucchini slices until they are crispy, then I put them on a big plate and layer them. I add either homeade pizza sauce or spaghetti sauce (I watch both calories and sugar here) or make up something else for a sauce. Then I will add any kind of veggies - I use artichokes and mushrooms mainly. Sometimes, I add ground turkey, ground beef, or a boca. Then I add a little low fat cheese and put it in the microwave. It's a knife and fork deal, but very yummy. The key for me is to overload my plate with veggies.

 

[lisaviolet]

Lisa, I hear you, but you are by FAR the exception. Did you change your food intake at all? What is a typical food day for you?

I'm not sure about by FAR. Why? Because you won't hear my type of loser talking. Think about how little I talk about food/exercise on this thread. Rarely even though I workout six days for the most. That sounds kind of like I'm trying to take a jab. I'm not. It's just that no one around me knows how I've lost weight. Family. Most friends. And in fact I've lost it so slowly that some didn't notice while it was coming off. Or even now has it hit them. For instance, only one family member from Jean's side even has said a thing. And I'm 75 pounds smaller. It was just so slow. So you won't hear about ME types - it's slow and there's not much to say. My sisters have said virtually nada. So there are others out there like me.


You know Kat - I have no idea what to tell you on diet. But I eat a lot compared to you guys. I can because I'm heavier/bigger of course.

Okay let me think. I eat a lot of dinner for breakfast. Japan changed me in that manner. Like yesterday I ate Indian for breakfast. Tandoori chicken, channa masala, samosa, naan. But I eat everything under the sun. I so adore food -like foodie like - I'm lucky in the sense from veggies to crap and in between - there's virtually nothing I don't like. I would have no idea how many calories I comsume in a day - but my brain says at least 2000. But once again I have no idea.

The only change - in me -which I have squawked over and over - was an attempt to eat consciously. At first it came without thought. Meaning the "overeating' lessened over the years - mainly like I've told you guys through therapy issues. Do I still overeat? He!! yeah. Obviously. But not in that totally mindless emotional feel like throwing up manner.

When we were selling and I didn't want to leave downtown but felt I had no choice and we lived in other's houses that mindless emotional stuff came back. Not to mention the downtown lifestyle kept the weight off. One can not underestimate walking everywhere. Everywhere. It's huge and I miss it so much. In my neighbourhood no one, virtually no one, was overweight. Little things mean so much. But you know that from Chicago.

My workout - my intervals - are pretty successful and I made it up on my own. Because when ever I go back to it I *feel* lighter.

Thanks for hearing me Kat. That's all that really matters anyway. That's all it's about. Being seen and heard. We'll all get there somehow. Me - just not as quickly.

 

[lisaviolet]

Oh and I know no one is going to do this but I saw this on 20/20. There's this office where they atached their desks to treadmills. And they walked very very slowly while talking on the phone, computer etc.

No change in food at all. And they lost 30 pounds on average in a year.

I know - extreme. But funny and interesting. I think the scientist who set it up - his point was that more walking in everyday life = . But it's not different from walking countries/communities. Little differences in movement do add up.

I'm sure all our tech hurts us. Garage door openers. Getting up to change the channel.

In Jamaica - Jean says every child walked to school etc. In Japan, they, young people, bike everywhere. When I was there at least.

Okay, I've exhausted me.

 

[HockeyKat]

2000 calories really isn't that much... and the eating consciously thing does play a part as well as the non-sedentary lifestyle and the huge amts of exercise.

Man, do I hear ya on the overeating to the point of throwing up thing!

I think that some people have a "full" button and some don't. To my thinking, my full button is broken, so it is something I have to monitor every. single. day.

I also think that you can eat what you love and still lose weight. Portion sizes.

My other problem is liquid calories, in the form of alcohol. Soda is not a problem for me, but would be the same kind of thing (from a weight loss or health perspective, taking out the morality, etc.), just without the liver issues!


As to people not noticing, I think that is as much to do with your height and build as the speed in which you lost it. As a medium-to-large framed 5'8", I have to lose or gain 30 lbs before it's really noticeable, and when I tell people I have gained or lost 30 lbs, I get the really?? Even at 60 lost, I think most people would have guessed more like 30 lost. I think that most people (esp men) judge weight based on a 5'2-5'4" woman.


Honestly, your way is probably better. I have tried it, though, and I need something more or I gain like crazy. Maybe it's the emotional stuff, or just mindless eating, or my hugely sedentary lifestyle (Hello, Cube Farm!).

 

[AKASnowWhite]

And - tell me what Erin had you doing on the day you couldn't walk.

Ugh. Just loads of lunges and squats and kettle bell swings. All good stuff, really. But exhausting. I followed our work out Thursday with a 35 minute race-pace walk so after my 5 mile run on Friday my legs were toast!

And those pictures! They are so fabulous! Thanks for sharing!

The lurgy has nearly gone now, I still have a cough and a bit of a bad chest but its going...finally!

So glad you are finally on the mend Kelly!

Nancy--so Seth is going again. How do you feel about it this time? Are you ready for him to go back?

Nope. Not at all. I'm going to miss that facebook-status hacker! OH! And get this. In the last few days I've heard 2 phrases come out of his mouth that nearly made me drop dead.

"Dad really does know what he's talking about" and "My Mom is right"

I have new insoles that I swear are super human variety, so I hope that will help with my hot spots around my toes. At least the foot experts say they will!

How did they work out EE?

What's the phrase Nancy taught us? You can't out-train a bad diet.

Yep. That's it exactly. Training alone can only get you so far. Clearly I'm haven't quite fully grasped that whole concept myself as of yet (as evidenced by my dietary epic fail yesterday)

I know my coke is 240 cal per can, I have one a day, I am going to try to have none a day.

Ok. <breathing deeply now> more math for everyone. 240/day is 1680 calories per week or 87,360 per year changing literally NOTHING ELSE in your life, eliminating that soda and replacing it with water could make a 25 pound difference in one year.

But I lost 75 pounds by exercise alone. Not a opinion. Reality. Not at goal but not that far either. Honestly, when the statement it can't be done that way - when I'm here - comes on this thread I feel extremely patronized. If I'm honest.

Yes, you sure did!

And I totally agree about the "life activity" stuff. We have so many things to make our lives "easier" when what they really do is make our lives LAZIER. Think about it all. Not only the obvious automobiles, but dishwashers, garage door openers, self cleaning ovens, bread machines - all those little appliances that do things FOR us result in a lot of unburned calories.

My other problem is liquid calories, in the form of alcohol. Soda is not a problem for me, but would be the same kind of thing (from a weight loss or health perspective, taking out the morality, etc.), just without the liver issues!

WORD. Red wine is my favorite fruit

 

[adsrtw]

The insoles felt different in my old shoes than the new ones. My feet were still all over the place when I jogged. I can't wait for my new ones to be in. I also noticed that when I jog, I jog on my toes. I'm going to try to see if I can change my gait a bit.

So how long did it take for you to pick your jaw up off the floor after Seth said those lovely comments?

 

[3DisneyKids]

Nope. Not at all. I'm going to miss that facebook-status hacker! OH! And get this. In the last few days I've heard 2 phrases come out of his mouth that nearly made me drop dead.

"Dad really does know what he's talking about" and "My Mom is right"


LOVE IT. He's a great kid. Of course you're going to miss him.


Ok. <breathing deeply now> more math for everyone. 240/day is 1680 calories per week or 87,360 per year changing literally NOTHING ELSE in your life, eliminating that soda and replacing it with water could make a 25 pound difference in one year.
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Just reinforcing this! WOW!

Jo, take note. JUST giving up soda and changing nothing else could = 25 pounds this year! HOLY CRAP! Anyone who is on this thread and is drinking soda should take not of this. WOW WOW WOW. That should be incentive to never again touch the stuff.

Seriously, this kind of information makes me wish that I drank soda so that I would have something I know I could do that would make a difference in a heartbeat!

LISA--yes, you definitely lost your weight by working out. But remember--your diet also wasn't BAD. You have always eaten well-rounded. Like you said, you like everything. So it isn't like you were living on chocolate and fast food. So you likely didn't have a ton of changes to make in your diet other than to "eat consciously" which you did--and BAM--saw huge changes. Have I told you lately what a Goddess you are?!?!?

About needing a date--so proud of you for saying it. Now, what are you gonna do about it?

 

[goofyfan-12]

E has GREAT advice, with lots of pretty happy math to boot.


BL is not realistic. In fact, I read recently that the "weekly weigh-in" is not based on an actual week, and in some cases can be as many as 3 weeks. Basically, the "cycle" of weight loss is somewhere between 8 and 9 months, and they carefully edit to make it look like it happens in the 12 weeks that the show airs.

I have also read that the methods that some of the contestants use for rapid weight loss are not very healthy... dehydration, starvation, etc.

I don't know if this is fact because according to the sources (former BL contestants, including two winners), this is something that the show wants to keep under wraps.

You should hear Jesse go off on how bad the workouts are on BL. He says if you watch closely, the contestant's form is all off and no one is doing anything to correct it. He hates the show. I like it because it shows that massive transformation is possible although I know that there is no way I can do it that quickly as that program just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

Yes my diet sucks, but its always sucked. I thought if I did not change my diet and just focused on the work outs then worked on the diet I would still loose weight.

So Goal from this coming week. Get my runs in, and No POP!

Jo - working out in conjunction with a sucky diet will only get you so far. That has been my issue for the past two months. I ate like crap for most of November and December but still worked out like a fiend and ended up gaining 4 pounds over the holidays. Now that my food intake is back in line, I am starting to lose again. If your diet is normal, than yeah - working out alone will do it, but the math works against you here. Calories in vs. calories out is the key.

 

[goofyfan-12]

Made it through my 7 mile walk today and lived to talk about it. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be, but wasn't easy either. Felt pretty good afterwards, just need to deal with the whole hunger thing and life will be good.

Nancy - sorry you had to spend the day in the car taking Seth back. So when it snows in May we have him to blame for saying that mom was right?

Lisa - the pictures of the snow bowl are great. What a beautiful family!

E - sorry to hear about the computer issues. There seems to be a rash of that going on here. I am about to send my laptop to my company's IT folks in NJ for an update so I will computerless for about a week. I am going to have to function off of my ipod touch. That should be fun. Not nearly as horrible as what you and Liz are going through, but.

Hi to everyone!!!

 

[AKASnowWhite]

So how long did it take for you to pick your jaw up off the floor after Seth said those lovely comments?

I was truly shocked. Pleased of course, but shocked. There is hope people! There is hope

Seriously, this kind of information makes me wish that I drank soda so that I would have something I know I could do that would make a difference in a heartbeat!

WORD!

Paula - I think Erin would agree with Jesse on a lot of the BL issues. She, however, actually LIKES the show, for the very reasons you have stated.


Crappy weather here. Sleet/freezing rain/snow. The worst mix possible. Rain? Well, at least I could go to the gym in that. This mess? It remains to be determined. This *stuff* is supposed to last thru the night and well thru the morning commute time Thankfully due to the MLK holiday there's no school, so we don't have to concern ourselves with a snow day.

 

[AKASnowWhite]

Made it through my 7 mile walk today and lived to talk about it. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be, but wasn't easy either. Felt pretty good afterwards, just need to deal with the whole hunger thing and life will be good.

when did you have your fuel snack? It may be helpful to have one 15-ish minutes before you start, then 45 minutes into the workout (and every 45 or so throughout)

Nancy - sorry you had to spend the day in the car taking Seth back. So when it snows in May we have him to blame for saying that mom was right?

yes. a cold day ....

 

[goofyfan-12]

Nancy - I started about 45 minutes in and then again every 15 minutes thereafter. Of course, I ate breakfast at around 11:00ish and didn't walk until about 4:00ish so walking on an empty stomach was probably not the best of ideas.

 

[AKASnowWhite]

I'm sure you're right Paula. That was a long time between breakfast and walking.

Bed time for me. I'm telling you it is so.exhausting. spending so long in the car. Really it makes no sense to me. I sat on my back side literally all day. And it's wiped me out!

 

[3DisneyKids]

Paula--I agree 100% with Nancy. A good fueling schedule is 15 minutes prior to starting the long walk/run, and then every 45 minutes. I don't use a whole pack of Gu--just half. And each fueling is 1/2 a package. Thus 2 packs will get me through a 3 hour endurance event. Keep trying different types of fuel. Of course there are all of the specialty products. But other things work well, too. Most notably Gummy Bears and Twizzlers.

 

[adsrtw]

Oh and twizzlers can be bought in bite size so they will fit in a pocket

 

[lisaviolet]

2000 calories really isn't that much..Okay laughing - cause I really now wonder what the real number is. . and the eating consciously thing does play a part as well as the non-sedentary lifestyle and the huge amts of exercise.

Man, do I hear ya on the overeating to the point of throwing up thing!

I think that some people have a "full" button and some don't. To my thinking, my full button is broken, so it is something I have to monitor every. single. day. I think that is emotionally based Kat. But of course just my opinion. I had a situation recently where I was very fulfilled in life, happy moments - and I really noticed how much I was thoroughly enjoying every bite of food and being conscious. It was very interesting to notice that I didn't struggle with the conscious for one minute. Not one. I was happy and felt good and it showed in my eating. Interesting.

I also think that you can eat what you love and still lose weight. Portion sizes.

My other problem is liquid calories, in the form of alcohol. Soda is not a problem for me, I think Erika mentioned this further down. I would love to be a pop drinker so I could actually leave it. but would be the same kind of thing (from a weight loss or health perspective, taking out the morality, etc.), just without the liver issues!


As to people not noticing, I think that is as much to do with your height and build as the speed in which you lost it. As a medium-to-large framed 5'8", I have to lose or gain 30 lbs before it's really noticeable, and when I tell people I have gained or lost 30 lbs, I get the really?? Even at 60 lost, I think most people would have guessed more like 30 lost. I think that most people (esp men) judge weight based on a 5'2-5'4" woman.


Honestly, your way is probably better. I have tried it, though, and I need something more or I gain like crazy. Maybe it's the emotional stuff, or just mindless eating, or my hugely sedentary lifestyle (Hello, Cube Farm!).

And I'm not all that successful these days at eating consciously. I'm missing *home* like crazy and can't seem to figure out how to rectify that in my head. Hence eating is off. Maybe stop calling it home would be a good start!!!

Thanks for listening to me Kat. I really appreciated it. Really.

Ugh. Just loads of lunges and squats and kettle bell swings. All good stuff, really. But exhausting. I followed our work out Thursday with a 35 minute race-pace walk so after my 5 mile run on Friday my legs were toast!

And those pictures! They are so fabulous! Thanks for sharing!




So glad you are finally on the mend Kelly!



Nope. Not at all. I'm going to miss that facebook-status hacker! OH! And get this. In the last few days I've heard 2 phrases come out of his mouth that nearly made me drop dead.

"Dad really does know what he's talking about" and "My Mom is right"



How did they work out EE?




Yep. That's it exactly. Training alone can only get you so far. Clearly I'm haven't quite fully grasped that whole concept myself as of yet (as evidenced by my dietary epic fail yesterday)



Ok. <breathing deeply now> more math for everyone. 240/day is 1680 calories per week or 87,360 per year changing literally NOTHING ELSE in your life, eliminating that soda and replacing it with water could make a 25 pound difference in one year.



Yes, you sure did!

And I totally agree about the "life activity" stuff. We have so many things to make our lives "easier" when what they really do is make our lives LAZIER. Think about it all. Not only the obvious automobiles, but dishwashers, garage door openers, self cleaning ovens, bread machines - all those little appliances that do things FOR us result in a lot of unburned calories.



WORD. Red wine is my favorite fruit

Sweet on the Seth words.

And I didn't know you were using kettlebells. I'm so intrigued. I bought Kettlenectics the other day - it's not really kettlebells I know. I bought it for when I can't afford the gym - in between I"m taking it back because you have to be so careful with form and am far too lazy to think.

About needing a date--so proud of you for saying it. Now, what are you gonna do about it?

Listen sunshine infused pipsqueak.

I wouldn't know what the he!! that would be. Lord knows he's not going to find me in my house.

I'm not sure I've even ever been on a date. Maybe one possibly. If dinner and a pounce (not on my naive end of course) is a date.

Everyone I've ever been with hit me over the head with a frying pan ten times first. So a date was futile in their exhaustion.

I have no idea. No idea. I watched these girls- like I was twelve in NYC fllirt with these guys. I was mesmirized. It was lovely but so foreign. So lost.

Made it through my 7 mile walk today and lived to talk about it. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be, but wasn't easy either. Felt pretty good afterwards, just need to deal with the whole hunger thing and life will be good.

Nancy - sorry you had to spend the day in the car taking Seth back. So when it snows in May we have him to blame for saying that mom was right?

Lisa - the pictures of the snow bowl are great. What a beautiful family!

E - sorry to hear about the computer issues. There seems to be a rash of that going on here. I am about to send my laptop to my company's IT folks in NJ for an update so I will computerless for about a week. I am going to have to function off of my ipod touch. That should be fun. Not nearly as horrible as what you and Liz are going through, but.

Hi to everyone!!!

Hi Paula. Wow on the seven.

I was truly shocked. Pleased of course, but shocked. There is hope people! There is hope



WORD!

Paula - I think Erin would agree with Jesse on a lot of the BL issues. She, however, actually LIKES the show, for the very reasons you have stated.


Crappy weather here. Sleet/freezing rain/snow. The worst mix possible. Rain? Well, at least I could go to the gym in that. This mess? It remains to be determined. This *stuff* is supposed to last thru the night and well thru the morning commute time Thankfully due to the MLK holiday there's no school, so we don't have to concern ourselves with a snow day.

Oh crap - I highlighted this for a reason. I can't think.

Have a wonderful holiday tomorrow guys. Me no call for work. So holiday.

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

HOLY CRAP!!! 25llb in a year !!!!!

I am so going to give up pop... I have unsweet ice tea to bring to work tomorrow.

Just tell myself one day at a time.

 

[AKASnowWhite]

GOOD MORNING!

And I didn't know you were using kettlebells. I'm so intrigued. I bought Kettlenectics the other day - it's not really kettlebells I know. I bought it for when I can't afford the gym - in between I"m taking it back because you have to be so careful with form and am far too lazy to think.

I'm far too lazy to think too! Thankfully Erin does that part for me right now.

And while I'm confessing to being too lazy to think. I did NOT think all weekend. As a matter of fact, I lost complete control of ALL my senses. I ate and drank like there was no tomorrow. And today I'm up 2 pounds from Saturday. I feel like crap, and now have to go thru that whole ugly process of eliminating all those freakin' toxins from my body. Again. My run today is not going to be pretty.

The good news in all this is I did write in my journal this morning. I simply listed the stuff that I ate this weekend, and noted how I feel today. Hopefully that will serve as a reminder next time I get the urge to go on a food bender!