I just try to get as many of my calories from "bulk" foods as possible. Fruit, veggies, etc. fill me up and make me less hungry and less likely to want more food. I do drink alcohol sometimes, though, and count it, and that is likely worse for me than juice or milk, but I am honest as to the reasons I am ingesting it.
I think the point that E and I were trying to make is that if you can find acceptable alternatives to higher-fat stuff, it will benefit you in the long run. If the alternative isn't acceptable, then moderation is the key. And almost any weight loss/maintenance program advocates fruit over juice, even the no-sugar-added kind, because of the fiber and bulk and extra nutrients that you get from the real thing.
As to starvation mode, sure, your body will slow down. But the calorie deficit that you have created will still mean that you lose weight (and yes, I have researched this). The rebound effect, i.e. that you have slowed your metabolism and that if you binge it will come on that much faster, I will give you. And no doubt, you are definitely short-changing yourself from a nutritional standpoint.
So super-low-calorie (under 1000) is really not the best way to do it, though, 1200 is about as low as you should go. I track to 1000-1100 but like I have said before, I am assuming a 100-200 calorie buffer of a sprinkle of cheese here, a spray of cooking or butter spray there (which is NOT no calorie no matter what anyone tells you, it does add up).
And one more "tip" for today... there are a lot of things that I didn't like before I started a lower calorie diet, that I definitely eat now. There is something about being really hungry that makes food taste better!
I think the point that E and I were trying to make is that if you can find acceptable alternatives to higher-fat stuff, it will benefit you in the long run. If the alternative isn't acceptable, then moderation is the key. And almost any weight loss/maintenance program advocates fruit over juice, even the no-sugar-added kind, because of the fiber and bulk and extra nutrients that you get from the real thing.
As to starvation mode, sure, your body will slow down. But the calorie deficit that you have created will still mean that you lose weight (and yes, I have researched this). The rebound effect, i.e. that you have slowed your metabolism and that if you binge it will come on that much faster, I will give you. And no doubt, you are definitely short-changing yourself from a nutritional standpoint.
So super-low-calorie (under 1000) is really not the best way to do it, though, 1200 is about as low as you should go. I track to 1000-1100 but like I have said before, I am assuming a 100-200 calorie buffer of a sprinkle of cheese here, a spray of cooking or butter spray there (which is NOT no calorie no matter what anyone tells you, it does add up).
And one more "tip" for today... there are a lot of things that I didn't like before I started a lower calorie diet, that I definitely eat now. There is something about being really hungry that makes food taste better!