I'm watching "Kate Plus Eight"....

[CdnCarrie]

I went to that first one. I noticed right away it was fake. I also mentioned before, that she is a fool, if she thinks she is going to make a lot of money off of her site. But I guess she will do anything to make a buck.

I have one comment to make concerning Steve.

On the last show, she explained why she asked TLC for security. She said, her and Jon were with the kids at a local television station and a man, was in the studio, and he was putting some of the kids on his lap. She said she freaked out and it was so chaotic in the studio and this is when she realized they needed Security-thus the hiring of Steve.

If you have ever peeked at GWOP I totally understand why they need security! For sure some whackos out there and put them all together chatting about the family daily = very scary situation.

 

[daughtersrus]

Wow, in all my years of wearing them and now my DD , I have never seen on with inserts like that. I mean some padding yeah, so certain things don't show through, but it still flattens me and DD to some extent. Not saying they aren't out there, but I just haven't seen them, and I guess we wear the same kind over and aver again, I mean once you find one that fits, crap on trying on other brands that is a workout in itself.

If you look at the picture on the right, that doesn't appear to be the case.

http://www.glamourvanity.com/celebrities/5-worst-celebrity-cellulite-bodies/

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Excellent post.

You are not alone. I've said before I never believed Kate and Steve were having an affair and have read similar posts from others stating the same thing in this thread. If there were some concrete proof like pictures of her leaving his personal home (like Deanna Hummel), than I would feel differently. Kate does seem to flirt with Steve, but I have never noticed any reciprocation on his part. That was a rumor Jon started, and everyone knows what is said about cheaters. They always accuse others of cheating whether it is true or not.

I don't think there's anything between Steve and Kate either. I remember the whole Jon scandal (with pictures) and it didn't paint a pretty picture of him. Yet it was kind of swept under the rug because people were blaming Kate, saying she drove him to it. Well, in the aftermath of the divorce, Jon behaved like a fraternity boy. Is that Kate's fault too? I will never forget the restrained joy he had on his face during the divorce episode, saying he was looking forward to the next chapter of his life (with the lovely Hailey ). But he has his good points too, I've always thought he was really good with his kids and they seem crazy about him.

I do not hate Kate (or anyone for that matter). There are not any people I really dislike either. We have similar points of view on some things. You can defend her if you want. For me, I have always been more concerned with her kids and how they turn out rather than how anyone perceives Jon or Kate. Like I said before, they are both flawed (but have good qualities as well).

Agreed. They both have good qualities. I believe that. Yet they (more so Kate now) seemed to have lost their way and the kids were stuck in the middle of that. I too wonder how the kids will process all of this mess. Divorce isn't easy by any means but when it's broadcast on tv for all to see, well, I seriously think some of them might take serious issue with that later on. My parents divorced when I was 11 and it was a mess. Rather than make it a smooth transition, they both persisted in berating each other in our presence. That made it very confusing for my sister and I and truthfully, it seemed like it was a contest with our parents...to see who could make the other look worse and thereby win more of our affection. That's what worries me about the Gosselin kids though I do commend Jon for stepping out of the limelight and keeping the kids to himself when he has them.

That said, I do not really want to defend her or attack her. Kate does need to reconnect with her kids though. They are only young for so long, and she has a chance to turn it around. For their sakes, I hope she does. I am glad the show is over (and feel guilty for watching, especially if the kids suffer from the effects of filming).

I think Kate has lost that connection a bit. Though of course I can only go by what TLC chooses to show or what Kate chooses to say in articles, etc. But I will say (and I've said it before on the other J&K threads here) that J&K have the power to make things well for their sweet kids. They both are responsible for that and it does pain me to hear Kate make any kind of disparaging remark about Jon just as it pained me to hear Jon say that Hailey was his soulmate so soon after he was married to Kate.

Bottom line, I am happy that show is over because that means the kids are going to have a more normal day to day life. I wish Kate good luck in finding other means of employment. For all of her faults, she is very resourceful and I am sure she's been considering this career move for some time. I have no idea what it's like to have that many kids and the stress it entails. True, many others have large families but I wonder if a camera were there, would it capture only the happy moments? I doubt it and Lord knows I am far from being a perfect parent myself.

 

[mhsjax]

If you look at the picture on the right, that doesn't appear to be the case.

http://www.glamourvanity.com/celebrities/5-worst-celebrity-cellulite-bodies/

Wow, thanks. Now I have to go gouge my eyes out.

 

[CdnCarrie]

I really don't think Steve is going anywhere - at least, not for quite awhile. I think that the second the money flow starts slowing down, the kids will be yanked out of their private school (for their own good, of course) so that Kate can keep paying Steve's salary (and I am really, really fighting to keep from making a snarky comment here).

I really doubt that. The twins were going to that school before the show even started. Don't think they are pulling them out anytime soon. And it's probably for their own good they go there as it would be more secure and everyone knows them.

Why do you thinking yanking kid's out of the only school they are familar with is for their own good? That makes no sense.

 

[mhsjax]

Excellent post.



I don't think there's anything between Steve and Kate either. I remember the whole Jon scandal (with pictures) and it didn't paint a pretty picture of him. Yet it was kind of swept under the rug because people were blaming Kate, saying she drove him to it. Well, in the aftermath of the divorce, Jon behaved like a fraternity boy. Is that Kate's fault too? I will never forget the restrained joy he had on his face during the divorce episode, saying he was looking forward to the next chapter of his life (with the lovely Hailey ). But he has his good points too, I've always thought he was really good with his kids and they seem crazy about him.



Agreed. They both have good qualities. I believe that. Yet they (more so Kate now) seemed to have lost their way and the kids were stuck in the middle of that. I too wonder how the kids will process all of this mess. Divorce isn't easy by any means but when it's broadcast on tv for all to see, well, I seriously think some of them might take serious issue with that later on. My parents divorced when I was 11 and it was a mess. Rather than make it a smooth transition, they both persisted in berating each other in our presence. That made it very confusing for my sister and I and truthfully, it seemed like it was a contest with our parents...to see who could make the other look worse and thereby win more of our affection. That's what worries me about the Gosselin kids though I do commend Jon for stepping out of the limelight and keeping the kids to himself when he has them.



I think Kate has lost that connection a bit. Though of course I can only go by what TLC chooses to show or what Kate chooses to say in articles, etc. But I will say (and I've said it before on the other J&K threads here) that J&K have the power to make things well for their sweet kids. They both are responsible for that and it does pain me to hear Kate make any kind of disparaging remark about Jon just as it pained me to hear Jon say that Hailey was his soulmate so soon after he was married to Kate.

Bottom line, I am happy that show is over because that means the kids are going to have a more normal day to day life. I wish Kate good luck in finding other means of employment. For all of her faults, she is very resourceful and I am sure she's been considering this career move for some time. I have no idea what it's like to have that many kids and the stress it entails. True, many others have large families but I wonder if a camera were there, would it capture on the happy moments? I doubt it and Lord knows I am far from being a perfect parent myself.

Just curious, really being serious here, but what exactly are her good qualities. Don't tell me that she provides for her kids. Even some serial killers do that. Really, I am being serious, because maybe I have lost sight of them. I can't think of any. Again, not trying to argue, I really want to know.

 

[SaraJayne]

You know what I really like about Jon vs. Kate? It's obvious he enjoys just being with the kids...spending time with them, getting dirty, doing "kid" stuff. He expects them to be kids...and seems to accept them, faults and all.

Kate is nothing like that. She wants her kids to be what she THINKS they should be, not what they actually want to be. It's like she has this idea that if things don't appear to be perfect, the world will end.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Just curious, really being serious here, but what exactly are her good qualities. Don't tell me that she provides for her kids. Even some serial killers do that. Really, I am being serious, because maybe I have lost sight of them. I can't think of any. Again, not trying to argue, I really want to know.

I don't mind the question at all.

She's thrifty. Case in point, she has managed to get TLC to pay for alot of her expenses.

She's highly organized. Well, she has eight little ones, need I say more? So many episodes showcased that.

And yes, she does provide for her kids. Why is that bad? They have basic needs (food, clothing, shelter, schooling) and she provides that. I'm not sure how the analogy of a serial killer applies?

I think she's a hard worker too. Her determination to finish things is an asset, isn't it? That's probably part of the reason she took the divorce so badly, that was a failure in her eyes, like she failed.

Now, for all of those good qualities, she does have some not so great ones too. Please don't think I'm being unbalanced. My point was simply that she does some good things about her. I'm sure there are other things we haven't heard of or seen too. We aren't with her 24/7, are we? I don't live with her (or even near her for that matter). TLC is a business and their job is to generate a profit. Pure and simple. Showing the extreme Kate brings waaaaay more viewers than a simply affectionate Kate, don't you think?

Anywho, just my two cents worth!

 

[happygirl]

Just curious, really being serious here, but what exactly are her good qualities. Don't tell me that she provides for her kids. Even some serial killers do that. Really, I am being serious, because maybe I have lost sight of them. I can't think of any. Again, not trying to argue, I really want to know.

WE only see what the media wants us to see.

I believe she seems to be a nice person, none of us can say how we would respond in her shoes, Unless you have as many kids as she does. Sure she has bad days who doesn't?? I know I'm gulity of yelling at my hubby on occassion, I have not wanted my kids to get there clothes dirty by eating certain foods. heck I have even yelled at my kids.

They only things I can see her being gulity of is being a control freak and not handling stress very well. If that is the worse things she does she will be fine. I think we can say whatever we want but the truth is none of us know her or what she is like behind closed doors. Until then no one has any right to judge this women.

Everyone says oh the kids are going to be mortified when they read about themselves on the web, how do you think they would feel when they read all the hateful things that have been said about there mom.

 

[SaraJayne]

WE only see what the media wants us to see.

I believe she seems to be a nice person, none of us can say how we would respond in her shoes, Unless you have as many kids as she does. Sure she has bad days who doesn't?? I know I'm gulity of yelling at my hubby on occassion, I have not wanted my kids to get there clothes dirty by eating certain foods. heck I have even yelled at my kids.

They only things I can see her being gulity of is being a control freak and not handling stress very well. If that is the worse things she does she will be fine. I think we can say whatever we want but the truth is none of us know her or what she is like behind closed doors. Until then no one has any right to judge this women.

Everyone says oh the kids are going to be mortified when they read about themselves on the web, how do you think they would feel when they read all the hateful things that have been said about there mom.

Really? You think Kate Gosselin "seems to be a nice person"?

I guess everyone has different standards for "nice".

 

[happygirl]

Really? You think Kate Gosselin "seems to be a nice person"?

I guess everyone has different standards for "nice".

This is why people don't post here much this is what I mean by bashing.

 

[SaraJayne]

This is why people don't post here much this is what I mean by bashing.

Contrary to popular Dis belief, disagreeing is not bashing.

 

[happygirl]

Contrary to popular Dis belief, disagreeing is not bashing.

question my standards isn't bashing wow that a new one to me

 

[mhsjax]

I can see by watching her, she isn't a nice person. Even when she isn't yelling, she is stone cold. The camera can't see what isn't there. To the other poster re" the serial killer, and what was meant by that. Even the most cruel, evil people can provide for their family, and I wouldn't say that a serial killer has any good qualities. Meaning that just because you provide the food shelter and clothing, doesn't make you a good person. I also happen to believe that Kate works this hard so she can have the finer things in life for herself, nothing wrong with that, but when you have her attitude, like the world owes you and you deserve it, yeah I have a problem with it.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Forgot to mention something regarding the RV trip with Jamie & Ashley. If I were Kate and Ashley spoke to me that way, I'd have fired her. She was in Kate's employ and that was out of line...yelling at her and then whispering that it's all about Steve?

As for Jamie, what kind of friend talks to you that way on camera and then eggs Ashley on like that? Methinks Jamie has been enjoying the spotlight a bit herself... This is the same Jamie seen here and let me add that if my friend/babysitter ever grabbed my child like that, there would be trouble.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/kate-hires-her-best-friend-babysit-kids

 

[CdnCarrie]

I don't mind the question at all.

She's thrifty. Case in point, she has managed to get TLC to pay for alot of her expenses.

She's highly organized. Well, she has eight little ones, need I say more? So many episodes showcased that.

And yes, she does provide for her kids. Why is that bad? They have basic needs (food, clothing, shelter, schooling) and she provides that. I'm not sure how the analogy of a serial killer applies?

I think she's a hard worker too. Her determination to finish things is an asset, isn't it? That's probably part of the reason she took the divorce so badly, that was a failure in her eyes, like she failed.

Now, for all of those good qualities, she does have some not so great ones too. Please don't think I'm being unbalanced. My point was simply that she does some good things about her. I'm sure there are other things we haven't heard of or seen too. We aren't with her 24/7, are we? I don't live with her (or even near her for that matter). TLC is a business and their job is to generate a profit. Pure and simple. Showing the extreme Kate brings waaaaay more viewers than a simply affectionate Kate, don't you think?

Anywho, just my two cents worth!

I think she is very creative! Over the years she has organized all sorts of cool scavenger hunts, etc. for the kids. Seems to go all out making things special for them. Even the clues to guess the next destination on the RV trip was well thought out.

 

[CdnCarrie]

This is why people don't post here much this is what I mean by bashing.

I agree HappyGirl! None of us know Kate Gosselin in person. We are all speculating from what we have read and seen. And if someone says something positive about her than we're considered stupid.

 

[CdnCarrie]

I can see by watching her, she isn't a nice person. Even when she isn't yelling, she is stone cold. The camera can't see what isn't there. To the other poster re" the serial killer, and what was meant by that. Even the most cruel, evil people can provide for their family, and I wouldn't say that a serial killer has any good qualities. Meaning that just because you provide the food shelter and clothing, doesn't make you a good person. I also happen to believe that Kate works this hard so she can have the finer things in life for herself, nothing wrong with that, but when you have her attitude, like the world owes you and you deserve it, yeah I have a problem with it.

Bolding is mine. I don't see that at all. She's always joking and teasing the camera crew. In the old clips you see her acting very playfully with both her brother and her husband.

How very odd to judge a stranger and how nice they are by a 22 minute edited show.

 

[mhsjax]

6 years of seeing is enough for me. EVen her best friend says she isn't the same. It is ok, you can like her. I have nothing but contempt for her, well actually her attitude. Lose that and she may be ok.

 

[Wadecool]

I don't mind the question at all.

She's thrifty. Case in point, she has managed to get TLC to pay for alot of her expenses.

She's highly organized. Well, she has eight little ones, need I say more? So many episodes showcased that.

And yes, she does provide for her kids. Why is that bad? They have basic needs (food, clothing, shelter, schooling) and she provides that. I'm not sure how the analogy of a serial killer applies?

I think she's a hard worker too. Her determination to finish things is an asset, isn't it? That's probably part of the reason she took the divorce so badly, that was a failure in her eyes, like she failed.

Now, for all of those good qualities, she does have some not so great ones too. Please don't think I'm being unbalanced. My point was simply that she does some good things about her. I'm sure there are other things we haven't heard of or seen too. We aren't with her 24/7, are we? I don't live with her (or even near her for that matter). TLC is a business and their job is to generate a profit. Pure and simple. Showing the extreme Kate brings waaaaay more viewers than a simply affectionate Kate, don't you think?

Anywho, just my two cents worth!

Providing for your kids is just something we are supposed to do, it is a basic foundation of being a parent. It isn't something you can put on a list of good traits. When my DD cleans her room, she doesn't get huge accolades for it, it is something that is part of growing up and gaining responsibility. And being a parent is the same way. Just because I provide for my family is not something I should be bragging about. Its my job to do that.