I'm really mad... Disney is going to lose my business!!!

but in my humble opinion, Disney (and MANY other organizations) markets its best offers to entice new customers. AP holders have already drunk the kool-aid. Disney knows you're coming. Discounts are used to bring in people who might not otherwise. I agree, you would think that the most loyal customers would be the best rewarded but this really isn't the way marketing works.
 
MariaEllerºoº;29534386 said:
Both my husband and I are veterans as well. I served in the Navy during Desert Storm. My hubby served in the army with the 1st Cavalry and was in Iraq 2004-2005...30% disabled afterwards and neither of us qualify for any type of military discount. This highly upsets me...especially with my hubby being 30% disabled after his stint in Iraq. I should say we were both Honorably Discharged, but neither of us retired military. SOG should be open to all veterans except dishonorable discharged and Disney should have discounts for all military vets except dishonorable discharged as well.
i agree. My husband is considered 30% disabled after his visit over there! For me it isn't even not getting the discount that bothers me, it's more that it seems they are saying your service was less important or dignified because it wasn't 20+ yrs. It's even more of a slap in the face that they actually offer the $99 tickets to friends of active servicepeople but not to veterans. That is crazy

Oh well, I am completely off topic again - sorry.
 
There were AP discounts for your time frame last year. You will not get as good of a rate that you have now since you would not be in value season. Check out this chart to check for past discounts offered. Hang in there you never know but 40% is very good. The week you have will possibly be the start of free dining so just make sure you have those dining plans set at the 90 day mark.
http://www.mousesavers.com/historicalwdwdiscounts.html#codetrends

The AP rates for this time period came out in early May last year. I'm pretty sure free dining wasn't until Aug 24 last yr and I only remember because that's my DH's bday and I begged him to let me take him to the world for his bday.

That being said, we were there 6/30 - 7/18 in 2008. We paid $303 @ Poly w/ AP and $184 (i think) at POR.
 
Collcass- You mentioned that your husband is a firefighter- just as an FYI Disney has offered discounts similar or better than the current military room and ticket offer to firefighters in the past- two time periods that I recall in the fairly recent past. Who knows if they might be offered in the future- maybe you'll get a discount after all.

For us, when we moved to Florida we got AP's- never got any information and didn't even know room discounts were available. Of course when you call CRO they can't offer discounts so we never stayed on property- we could've had both AP and FL resident rates! Ahh...life before the internet. Then we joined DVC where you pay WAY more in points on the weekends. Many DVC members are also AP holders and book only Fri/Sat nights with cash to save their points, thus booking only weekends and leaving a void Sun-Thurs. I can understand, based on that popular trend, why AP discounts are limited or blocked on weekends. Doesn't mean it's not a tough thing for AP holders.

During the past two years we've stayed over 60 nights on property EACH year-some with points and some with promos. We've booked FD for the past four years as it's been a better offer for us than an AP discount. My nephew who joined DVC and bought AP's is doing the 4/3 deal in February as it's a better deal for them. I guess we all have to take whatever bone is thrown to us. As to my family, we've NEVER received a PIN code in the mail even though I've signed up to receive email offers. As others have said, marketting is geared toward attracting new guests, not rewarding past guests. I've said before that there needs to be a way that we can "earn" rewards for each night we stay on property similar to other hotel chain rewards programs. I'd love to earn free nights, meals, or merchandise credits- something to recognize my contribution to all the cheese I've bought for Mickey.
Kathy
 

If anyone consumer at Disney should be treated special, it should be AP holders.

:rolleyes1 :rolleyes1 :rolleyes1

:furious:

WRONG!!!!

ANY "consumer" should be treated special!! If you spend your hard earned $$$$ in their parks your special.... ;)

now go on and :charac2:
 
While I can understand being upset the discount isn't available the nature of the complaint seems unwarranted. not to flame or anything but it seems pretty petty to whinge that a couple nights aren't discounted when it's clear from Disney that it's privilege not a right to get some discounts and that it's clear there are blackouts.

This is a direct copy and paste from the Disney site:

Periodic Walt Disney World® Resort room discounts

Periodic means just that periodic. I'd have booked the room before the airfare in my case to ensure you got what you wanted or else search for different dates. :confused3 :confused3
 
while we have only been 7x, and i feel like we deserve something, it is what it is. i email WDW upon returning from each trip. I compliment on the good and mention what we thought was not so good along with suggestions for improvements.

they have alway called back. during one of those conversations, i asked about how to get discounts, etc...I was told it is run by a seperate company and done at random, having no ties to guests travel patterns, frequency or cost. Based on the fact that you have been so many times for so long, i would say that is proof of what they told me.

playing devil's advocate, i think of it this way. Disney is the best at what they do, hand's down. On the other hand, no one is perfect, not even Disney. I'm sure their database and statistics on guests, employee's, operating expenses, etc..is mindboggling. We have to remember, they are a For Profit business. Plain and simple, they have to make a profit. In the end, they have to try and find ways to keep things fiscally attractive for a broad spectrum of the population, yet still be profitable. I am sure that is a fine line that they walk every minute of every day. Like they say, it's tough being number one and staying number one. Because Disney is so good at what they do and at taking care of their guests, i think that we expect perfection and forget to give any room for WDW to breathe or be human. This is not to excuse any faux pas that WDW may be 'guilty' of, just a point of view.

my take on Disney is that $ for $, I haven't found anything that beats it for a vacation. every time i look at other places for trips, the costs come up similar or more expensive. I know that eventually we will do other destinations for our family vacations, especially as our DS's get older. For now, i just don't see any way that we can beat WDW in value. We have incredibly fun vacations that also take us away from the daily grind, phyiscally, mentally and emotionally. For us, that is a real vacation.

All I can say is that you are privelaged to have been to WDW so much and hopefully you don't lose sight of that. I understand if you feel like a comp is due, i certainly think you are overdue. However, i'm sure there are thousands of people, if not millions, who feel the same way.

In the end, I am grateful for what WDW does provide for the money. This has enabled us to have some incredible vacations during the past 7 yrs and hopefully for many more to come.


IMHO
 
The AP rates for this time period came out in early May last year. I'm pretty sure free dining wasn't until Aug 24 last yr and I only remember because that's my DH's bday and I begged him to let me take him to the world for his bday.

That being said, we were there 6/30 - 7/18 in 2008. We paid $303 @ Poly w/ AP and $184 (i think) at POR.

Free dining does change but the bounceback for this year was 8/23-10/1 and 10/2-10/8. This is our only glimps of what is to come.
 
No one is intitled to anything from Disney (discounts or anything)
They have a product, if we want it..it will cost you.
My aunt is an AP holder and Florida resident, sometimes she gets a good deal sometimes she doesnt.
We visit Disney quite often and in no way would i expect any perks.
We go during the Value season most often and take advantage of any deals Disney makes to the general public. It seems the more folks get, the more they want.
Everyone has their opinions, degree of "want".
IMHO, Disney bends over backwards to make it an affordable destination.
No issue with me thats for sure.
Oh, and the room only codes that goes out....WE love em!
We stayed at All Star Music for a mere 40.00 per night.
Thats an amazing deal for an on property resort.
 
i agree. My husband is considered 30% disabled after his visit over there! For me it isn't even not getting the discount that bothers me, it's more that it seems they are saying your service was less important or dignified because it wasn't 20+ yrs. It's even more of a slap in the face that they actually offer the $99 tickets to friends of active servicepeople but not to veterans. That is crazy

Oh well, I am completely off topic again - sorry.

Don't be sorry!

SOG was offering rooms to honorably discharged vets January and Sept. 2009. Check into it, might be worth it. It's not all year, but two months is better than none right?
 
I have been under the impression now for a couple of years that Disney does not want the AP's and regular Disney freaks. They want NEW customers that will buy more suvvies and spend more money. They also want customers that don't know that codes and specials even exist.
::yes:: That's my take on it, too. I'd love to see some studies, because I strongly suspect the average new visitor spends a lot more per person or per day than a frequent visitor. Honestly, as a local I spend as little as possible - the rare merhcandise item and limited food & drink. BUT, advertising to those new markets costs a lot more. Wish I could see some numbers!

As for me, well, if no good discount is available to me (AP, FL res. or otherwise), I simply don't stay overnight and I may well consider Universal when my DS gets older.
 
Hello again DIS friends....

I am less mad today after sleeping on it. I think once the initial shock wore off I could see things more in perspective. But I have to admit I do feel a little bit like Clark Griswold when he opened up his Jelly of the Month Club. :rotfl: When you are use to having an AP discount for all nights of your vacation, and then they suddenly cut out the weekends, it is a bit shocking. But I guess nothing in life is for sure. We went ahead and booked Pop Century. It's not really what I want, but since we are only there a couple of days before spending a week in a 2-bedroom villa I really don't have anything to be upset about. The kids love Pop, so they are excited.

Only 68 days to go!!! :cool1:
 
This is a direct copy and paste from the Disney site:

Periodic Walt Disney World® Resort room discounts

Periodic means just that periodic. I'd have booked the room before the airfare in my case to ensure you got what you wanted or else search for different dates. :confused3 :confused3

I agree with you 100 % on this. I think the point is change over time and not that anyone expects it now. Some people are haveing a hard time with the changes. I found my papers from 2000 and I

Quote 2000 Disney AP Pamplet given at purchase:

Seasonal disncounts at selected Walt Diseny World resort hotels ( rooms available at discount are limited)

The wording has changed. On the other hand periodic does mean uniform,customary, regular, steady,and systematic. The antonyms of this word is unusual, exceptional, abnormal, rare, and erratic. Think of it this way people do expect their peridical's (magizene publications) when they are expected to arrive. You pay for a subscription then you expect it to be there.
 
Hello again DIS friends....

I am less mad today after sleeping on it. I think once the initial shock wore off I could see things more in perspective. But I have to admit I do feel a little bit like Clark Griswold when he opened up his Jelly of the Month Club. :rotfl: When you are use to having an AP discount for all nights of your vacation, and then they suddenly cut out the weekends, it is a bit shocking. But I guess nothing in life is for sure. We went ahead and booked Pop Century. It's not really what I want, but since we are only there a couple of days before spending a week in a 2-bedroom villa I really don't have anything to be upset about. The kids love Pop, so they are excited.

Only 68 days to go!!! :cool1:

You're doing it the right way. I pity the poor fool who stays in the 2br unit for 5 nights and then finishes his vacation with a couple day stay in a value room :rotfl:
 
I agree with you 100 % on this. I think the point is change over time and not that anyone expects it now. Some people are haveing a hard time with the changes. I found my papers from 2000 and I

Quote 2000 Disney AP Pamplet given at purchase:

Seasonal disncounts at selected Walt Diseny World resort hotels ( rooms available at discount are limited)

The wording has changed. On the other hand periodic does mean uniform,customary, regular, steady,and systematic. The antonyms of this word is unusual, exceptional, abnormal, rare, and erratic. Think of it this way people do expect their peridical's (magizene publications) when they are expected to arrive. You pay for a subscription then you expect it to be there.

I agree, but it's just especially hard for DVC members who count on AP rates to finish out the week once they leave their villa. I'm not saying all DVC members do this, but many choose not to waste points with expensive weekend rates and move to other resorts on Friday and Saturday.
 
You're doing it the right way. I pity the poor fool who stays in the 2br unit for 5 nights and then finishes his vacation with a couple day stay in a value room :rotfl:

Oh my gosh! We just posted almost the exact same thing at the exact same time!!! :thumbsup2
 
I didn't buy an AP for room discounts... but when they released the discount this morning I sure didn't expect it to be Sun-Thurs only. We check-in to OKW on Sunday, so I am in a situation where I have to have a room friday and saturday, and I have to stay on property because I need to take ME, so I am forced to pay rack rate. It sucks. And I'm mad. I don't like being forced into doing something I don't want to do.

People with no AP, who are doing the 4/3 deal are getting a much better price than I am and I've been to WDW 4 times in the last year. That makes no sense. I'm already stuck with 1-day tickets from last October I was forced to buy so I could do the Bounceback offer. It's just a lot of nonsense.

Wow! You have been to WDW 4 times this past year!! That is amazing! :wizard: I am sooo jealous! We live in Indiana and its quite a trip for us to do disney every 2 or 3 years. We were so excited when the 4/3 deal came out because that meant we could actually afford to go this year :woohoo:
 
Wow! You have been to WDW 4 times this past year!! That is amazing! :wizard: I am sooo jealous! We live in Indiana and its quite a trip for us to do disney every 2 or 3 years. We were so excited when the 4/3 deal came out because that meant we could actually afford to go this year :woohoo:

It's not easy for us... but with APs and cheap fares on Southwest we can usually swing it. Sometimes with AP rate, sometimes with Bounceback, we'll take whatever deal works. ;)
 
It would be great if it was more than just another marketing ploy. After all, TWDC is a for profit business which is what I remember when I get irked by their absolutely ridiculous rates, there "promotions" that extend to certain people only ,etc.

First, we knew we'd love WDW so we bought our AP on our 1st family trip down there last year. Although the rates we received last 4th of July were great and did save us money, we really were hoping for good rates this year to make it worth while. Obviously, that won't be the case.

I am sure I am going to get flamed by this if it is taken wrong: Please understand I support the military 100% and I am not saying military personnel don't deserve to be thanked

my husband was in the Army (82nd Airbourne) for 5 1/2 yrs + 4 reserves. He fought in Desert Storm. He served his country. Apparently, TWDC doesn't consider veterans on the same level as an active member of the military. It is extremely irritating because he served just like anyone else. They all served their country and should be recognized for such - not just current active personnel.


Again, it isn't that I don't support the military. My annoyance is more toward TWDC marketing dept who are strictly attempting to boost attendence and using this discount as bait. Of course, that is their job and they do it well


I think you might have missed part of the promotion. The promotion is for active duty and for retired members. Since you spent some time military you would remember that the pay for active duty is not comparable with the civilian world. When my husband was an E-5 his civilian counterpart was making about $20,000 more a year doing the same job. My husband did over twenty years and is now retired. We are frequent Disney visitors with over 25 trips in 10 years... more as a child... and I am thankful for the little extra bonus they give the military...mostly for the young airmen and soldiers.... this might make a trip possible for them. do you also have a problem with active duty and retired members having the Shades of Green available to them?
 
:rolleyes1 :rolleyes1 :rolleyes1

:furious:

WRONG!!!!

ANY "consumer" should be treated special!! If you spend your hard earned $$$$ in their parks your special.... ;)

now go on and :charac2:

I agree with you and I am sorry for my statement. I am not a passholder right now and do not plan on it for this year. We will miss the discounts, special passholder pricing on special events, special passholder preview at new attractions, discounts on shopping, specials on photopass website, and the passholder pins for MNSSHP will not be available to us this year. Passholders do get some very special things not special treatment.
 




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