Idea for a new AP type

[LAX]

I am not against all these great/outside-the-box AP ideas, but is it a good idea for Disney to further complicate its park ticket pricing? Before the pandemic, doesn't the cost of tickets already varies depending on the day? Maybe it's just me, but I feel the more complicated pricing is, the more it usually benefits the seller.

LAX

 

[HappyDisneyWife]

I think some of you need to be hired by Disney’s marketing group! I love the idea of a DVC/Resort AP (in addition to other AP types), and think it could be offered for sale now without affecting the limited capacity (due to needing to stay on-site). I would buy one for all my family in a heartbeat!!

I do realize it would make the ticketing revenue less, which Disney cannot currently “afford,” but it would add to the overall income stream- with dining and souvenirs- as people would definitely be in the parks more. My family is much like many of yours, where we will choose more down days (& use our kitchen!) on days that we won’t have a ticket bc of the crazy costs.

 

[Leight19]

I honestly think this is direction Disney is looking to do in some form but not sure if will be this exact option. My understanding is they are struggling to get people in the hotels and we already saw early version of this in the park pass system where annual pass holders were blocked out but availability existed for annual passes staying on site. I’d predict the park pass system stays long term to limit ap attendance and will have tiers that balance how many days you can reserve or reservation window (as seen with Disney land survey) but limits will be overrode by staying on site. Having an extreme tier with 0 park passes would be this exact option; not sure Disney would go this route but would be great for me as I am dvc and always stay on site. My only risk for them doing this is if they decided the extra park passes for staying on site on dvc was direct members benefit only.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I honestly think this is direction Disney is looking to do in some form but not sure if will be this exact option. My understanding is they are struggling to get people in the hotels and we already saw early version of this in the park pass system where annual pass holders were blocked out but availability existed for annual passes staying on site. I’d predict the park pass system stays long term to limit ap attendance and will have tiers that balance how many days you can reserve or reservation window (as seen with Disney land survey) but limits will be overrode by staying on site. Having an extreme tier with 0 park passes would be this exact option; not sure Disney would go this route but would be great for me as I am dvc and always stay on site. My only risk for them doing this is if they decided the extra park passes for staying on site on dvc was direct members benefit only.

I can honestly say... ???
I’m far from grammar police, but to be honest I read your post several times with almost zero comprehension. That may be me, as I’m not the best at that, so I could be wrong.
perhaps an extra period or comma would help the read.

 

[Doberge]

Don't expect any changes to WDW's system, it's largely not broken like DL's system. WDW doesn't need a new system, just need to reactivate the old / existing (those renewing). DL needs a system that lowers AP usage daily and the reservation system will take care of that. The DL membership program tiers will likely allow those who want to pay more a longer window to make reservations and, likely, more simultaneous reservations.

There are 4 vs. 2 Disney parks to absorb locals from an area way less dense than LA. WDW doesn't face the same pressures from locals. AP holders have run of days and parks they want to attend. An AP holder can wake up today and choose any park to visit in Orlando, and that's not going to happen at DL. With increased demand and capacity there may still be choke points like F&W weekends but Disney can now more easily manipulate crowd levels with the reservation system. It'll get more difficult for AP holders when demand increases for the 50th and beyond but even needing to make reservations a few days ahead would be a small pain compared to what we'll likely see in California, and it'll likely come at a reduced price compared to California.

Anyway, any ideas about discounted day tickets would cost more than what we see now with the gold pass. Frankly, on both coasts, any system at that limits park days beyond booked reservation days seems like a nonstarter because they really need locals to fill in random weekdays in months like January.

 

[Louis morrell]

Why not declare portions of the parks into a ground lease deeded interest and sell contracts that use points to represent ownership. Those points could then be traded for park entry

 

[sethschroeder]

Anyway, any ideas about discounted day tickets would cost more than what we see now with the gold pass. Frankly, on both coasts, any system at that limits park days beyond booked reservation days seems like a nonstarter because they really need locals to fill in random weekdays in months like January.

I honestly think you are missing the point of a DVC/Out of State Pass as opposed to tagging DVC to a In Sate Pass.

Gold Pass

• Meant to drive attendance from locals to parks to spend money
• Meant to capture entertainment dollars from locals that would otherwise go to Universal via AP or area restaurants/theatre/ect
• DVC is a tack-on simply because its where there is a discount on tickets

Length of Stay Annual Pass

• Meant to target recurring out of state visitors
• Meant to push onsite stays
• Limitations on eligible dates could possibly be different than Gold Pass
• Built specifically for DVC and Out of State guests
• Ability to possibly remove discounts from the AP that are only designed to draw in locals who have easier ability to choose where to eat or get entertainment

Do I think they will? Not really but who knows. It would be smart though for Parks to actually build in a AP upcharge in to the MF payment. Basically if you want to opt in to having the Annual Pass, its based on the calendar year, and you pay at the same screens as your MFs like its a contract.

 

[Leight19]

I can honestly say... ???
I’m far from grammar police, but to be honest I read your post several times with almost zero comprehension. That may be me, as I’m not the best at that, so I could be wrong.
perhaps an extra period or comma would help the read.

To clarify my point. Disney land surveyed pass holders for future AP options. These options had varied price points for different max number of park passes. Disney world AP currently limits park passes to 3 at a time. However if you stay on site with AP you can book more then 3 park passes (length of stay).

Combining these options I could see AP tier system priced with different max park passes, but you would get additional park passes when staying on site. To me this could be good option to balance crowds and encourage on site stays to help with empty resorts.

Going to original post I referenced which described AP that only lets you in if have saying on site, this would match extreme AP tier where you get 0 park passes from the “offsite” bucket but can book in “on site” category when staying on site.

 

[taaren]

They are probably thinking to something like this for DLR. The problem is at the moment they wouldn't be able to sell it, because after buying it people might not be able to use it because of park capacity and park pass availability.
Instead resort rooms are limited, so it should be manageable in the current situation.

In the surveys sent out to DLR former AP holders, there were options for 6, 9 and 12 day tickets that could be used over the course of 6 months or 12 months. So they are definitely looking at this type of ticket, but at a max of 12 days. I'd actually be pretty happy with 12 days over 12 months. And the lack of discounts wouldn't bother us much as we tend to love spending money in Disney at the places you can't get discounts, like food booths for festivals and snack windows, etc.

I can honestly say... ???
I’m far from grammar police, but to be honest I read your post several times with almost zero comprehension. That may be me, as I’m not the best at that, so I could be wrong.
perhaps an extra period or comma would help the read.

I'm so glad you said this. I wasn't sure if it was the glass of wine I had before settling into this disboards session that was making that post so difficult to understand!

 

[Wakey]

This is a very good idea Z.
They could sell it much cheaper as a real DVC perk.
The more points you have, the more park days you’d get from the pass so it would add value to your points and drive more sales of points.

 

[PurdueTodd]

How about a straight up DVC pass sold by/through member services valid from year of purchase. Would include no blackout dates , and priced between the discounted rates for gold and premier.....say 800+tax. Would also guarantee park access to all 4 parks even it MDE shows capacity has been met. That’s a ticket I’d buy. If they offered this to blue card members....It would greatly encourage direct purchases.

 

[n2mm]

I would like to be able to buy the Silver Pass. We don’t do holidays or summers, so it would be a good fit for us.

 

[Rob Huff]

We'd love this.

We do a parks trip every other year and make it a long one (10+ days). We do a non-parks trip the other year because (i) there's so much fun stuff to do at the resorts/outside of the parks, and (ii) we don't want to pay for tickets on every trip. With this kind of AP, we'd spend more time in the parks, spending more money on Disney and less money at Costco/Prime buying food to have in the room. We'd also cost Disney more as we'd be additional bodies in the parks.

Then again, we're second class DVCers (resale buyers), so it's likely that none of this would apply to us anyway. No matter. We love our time at the resorts.