I wish some people would think before they talk while at WDW

[Amy&Dan]

Not trying to pick a fight here, but why is it "ignorance" when there is a disagreement? Are they automatically "ignorant" because they don't agree with your point of view?
Personally, I think it's great when people from other countries visit this country, as long as they do it legally. Some would prefer that we make it more difficult for foreign guests to visit for a lot of different reasons. They are not ignorant. They just have a different point of view. "Rights" never need to give way for political correctness.

My use of the term "ignorance" was in reference to the fact that this guy stated he "Jewed" Disney down to get a better rate at the Grand Floridian. Do I think all people who don't share my opinion are ignorant? No! Do I think it is ignorant to use a racial slur, that is based on a an age old, intolerant, mean spirited, supposition is ignorant and wrong? You bet. And for the record, I think its high time the United States did something about the influx of illegal immigrants. I just don't see the correlation between our stupid policies on immigration and racial slurs. They are not interrelated in my opinion. And I don't think its necessarily "pc" to be offended when someone makes a racial slur. Its just morally right to be offended.

 

[Magickndm]

So this county has gotten so PC that calling a person from another country a "foreign person" is viewed as rude?!
This must be named "The Most Rediculous Thread of the Day".

 

[AllyCatTapia]

I'm sorry but are you from this country?...The way that you type reminds me of someone whose second language is english...Just wondering

haha- she's not "from" here unless she's native, or Mexican- yes I said Mexican- many many many MANY residents of south texas were originally in the US until a certain war took their land from them. Suddenly the border moved and they were "foreigners". Far be it from someone who's been to seven places worlswide to remember her history!!!!

"I'll be glad when a wall goes up"- show me a 50 foot wall and I'll show you a 51 foot ladder, hon.


"You'll find ignorant people everywhere"
Yeah, I found one here on the baord, and she's "someones" mommy, which is even worse!

 

[AllyCatTapia]

'Red'iculous ? hmm looks kinda blue and gray and khaki to me.

 

[AllyCatTapia]

"But if I want to be ignorant and stand in WDW and talk (in a normal voice, not standing on a stage somewhere) about how much I dislike a certain ethnic group and why, I have a legal right to do so. "



Legality and morality are in no way interrelated in this country. Unfortunately

 

[Magickndm]

'Red'iculous ? hmm looks kinda blue and gray and khaki to me.

What does that even mean?

 

[Amy&Dan]

I agree with what your saying. My post was about a time when a comment made directly to me at WDW seemed inappropriate, especially given the time and the place and the fact I had never met this guy, would never see him and I was surprised he would come right out and say that. I didn't expect WDW security to come in and haul this guy away, I didn't think at that point he was an awful person, I just didn't want to listen to him anymore, so dh and I just sort of moved off and that was that. Lots of people have since responded to my post saying "Jewing" someone down is not a bad thing to say. I disagree. They are certainly entitled to their opinion but they should also realize that sometimes what they say can offend and make them seem intolerant and ignorant.

 

[basas]

One time my Dad & I were waiting for the rope to drop at Frontierland to go on Splash Mountain. While we were waiting we started talking to this guy & his famiy. Well for some reason don't know why he says "god there are a lot of foreign people here, refering to guests from the UK, Mexico, Brazil, etc. Well this didn't bug us that much but we kind of wish we told him your talking to some foreign people because we are from Canada & by your account we are foreigners & wondered what his reaction would have been. I don't know if he said his comment in a mean way or a joking, however those are the kind of comments you should keep to yourself because if you say it to someone they might take it the wrong way. So who here agrees with me?

I don't see what the problem is... I've often commented "oh, there are a lot of Brits here", or "there are a lot of Brazilians here". If someone takes it the wrong way...well...i guess stop talking to them.

You'll find ignorant people everywhere. Unless they're native americans, they're hypocrites too.

There are probably as many idiotic Americans as there are in all the other countries combined.

Yes we have freedom of speach in America BUT no one has the right to slander or disparage any group based on sex, religion, race, sexual orientation, physical or mental disabilty, or ethnicity [place of origin]. This is against the law by federal and state laws. People who spout off this nonsense could be charged with a hate crime if they carry the insults too far.

What insult!?

The statement, "there are a lot of foreigners here" isn't racist or derogatory at all.

It was simply an observation by someone that a lot of people from different countries (foreigners by definition) are at WDW. We always enjoy meeting people from around the world during our stays at WDW.

Seems to me like the PC police are always on the lookout for "buzz" words so they can pounce on someone who doesn't share their way of thinking.

Stop ease dropping on other guests and start enjoying your time at WDW

Agreed.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I'm beginning to think that there are people who walk around all day looking for reasons to be offended. Give me a break!! You do NOT have a right NOT to be offended.
I can't control what other people say or do-but I CAN control my reaction to it. There is just no way I'm going to let a comment made by a person that I have never met, and probably will never see again ruin my Disney vacation! Sure, I've heard things at WDW that I consider offensive or inappropriate-I say a silent prayer for that person and MOVE ON WITH MY DAY.

 

[disykat]

I went back and read the OP. The first time I read it through, I honestly thought it said something about it being "good" there were lots of foreign people here. I couldn't figure out why on earth the OP was offended. Now I realize it said "god, there are a lot of foreign people here" and agree it sounded derogatory.

I do think it sounded as if he takes issue with the foreignors. However, whether this helps or not, many people don't really consider Canadians "foreign". Although I know it's a foreign country, I'm so used to traveling back and forth that it isn't foreign to me. He probably wouldn't even have blinked an eye if you said you were Canadian.

 

[BluOrchid2]

god there are a lot of foreign people here

Actually, the "god" at the beginning of the phrase does imply some degree of annoyance to me, not merely a statement of observation.

 

[disykat]

There is just no way I'm going to let a comment made by a person that I have never met, and probably will never see again ruin my Disney vacation!

Huh? The OP said it "didn't bother them that much", but took a few seconds to post about it. How is that letting it ruin their vacation?

 

[boxer]

Again, why is anyone here worrying about what other people say? Unless anything said is DIRECTLY aimed at YOU, it should not be a concern......

I love how people hear things (or claim to be offended)--but don't say anything at that immediate opportunity----------but instead come home and post it on a messageboard to express their feelings....lol

 

[boxer]

Fitswimmer:

I'm beginning to think that there are people who walk around all day looking for reasons to be offended. Give me a break!! You do NOT have a right NOT to be offended.

Sooooo true.........I've seen so many threads on this board with subjects like this, you would think that some people live in a bubble. My god, I don't even waste my time worrying about other peoples beliefs/comments/values.

Who cares.

 

[Froggyswife]

When we were at DWD (on 4th of July I don't recommend going at that time way too crowded) I thought that the representation of all the different countries in the world were there. It added to the Magic of WDW. I also marveled at the fact that most people there got along and were very friendly. There were some who were not so nice but you get that anywhere you go. I also figured that since it was July in Florida (Can you say HOT HOT HOT!!!) I'm sure that some who aren't used to southern heat in the summer could become grouchy and irriatable so I just chalked it up to that. We had a wonderful time and are going back someday soon.

Lets try and not turn every thread into a political debate please.

As for the answer to the orriginal question on this thread I couldn't give you an honest answer because I wasn't there and didn't hear what was said or hear the tone in which it was said. It could have been a slur or it could have been just an observation. As for me if someone said those words to me I would have smiled very nicely and said back to them "Yes isn't it wonderful to see all the differnt people of this world getting along and having a good time together."

 

[Amy&Dan]

Sooooo true.........I've seen so many threads on this board with subjects like this, you would think that some people live in a bubble. My god, I don't even waste my time worrying about other peoples beliefs/comments/values.

Who cares.

I think that can be a dangerous attitude to take. Now I do see your point, you can spend your whole life worrying about what everyone else says, letting it ruin your outlook etc. But when the incident I mention in my post happened my children were there. My son in particular who was 10 at the time overheard this comment made. Since his best friend his Jewish, he picked up on it, and asked me what that man had meant. I told him and said it was too bad some people said stupid things, we knew better and that was why Daddy and I had just sort of said "whatever, see ya" and then ignored the guy. If I don't allow myself to feel any type of reaction to comments like that, then I don't allow my children to learn a lesson.

 

[boxer]

Posted by Amy and Dan:

I think that can be a dangerous attitude to take. Now I do see your point, you can spend your whole life worrying about what everyone else says, letting it ruin your outlook etc. But when the incident I mention in my post happened my children were there. My son in particular who was 10 at the time overheard this comment made. Since his best friend his Jewish, he picked up on it, and asked me what that man had meant. I told him and said it was too bad some people said stupid things, we knew better and that was why Daddy and I had just sort of said "whatever, see ya" and then ignored the guy. If I don't allow myself to feel any type of reaction to comments like that, then I don't allow my children to learn a lesson.

I'm sure your 10yr old son has heard FAR worse on his bus-ride to school. Again, you cannot force people to act the way that you want them to, so why try? I worry more how I bring my kids up, and hope that they react accordingly when anything off-color is said.

The world would be much better if people would worry about themselves rather than what everyone else is doing and saying.

 

[sha_lyn]

I grew up in rural southeast Missouri among hillbilly relatives who used that phrase ALL the time. I grew up thinking it was just a revision of "chewed'em down." I don't think they have any anti-semitic feelings as they likely had never met any Jews....it was just a way of talking that had always been used to describe getting a good deal. It wasn't until I was much older, probably in my 20's and moved away from there, living in suburbia, that I thought about it and actually realized what the saying was inferring.

Same here, except from the north west GA mountains. You know, the same area that Jane Fonda called a 3rd world country when she was married to Ted Turner.

 

[auntpolly]

You know that bible verse: judge not, for with the judgement you judge you shall be judged?

We don't know what the guy intended when he made the comment. He might not have meant much of anything at all. Just a passing, nothing comment.

I really hope people don't scrutinize every silly word that comes out of my mouth like that. Because I have that "foot in mouth" disease and hate offending people (when I don't intend to, that is! )

 

[Luv'sTink]

After talking about this thread with my DH he reminded me about what happened during a trip to DL about 2 years ago.

We were having on of those oh so yummy continental breakfast at our hotel when a fellow Canadian noticed my DH was wearing his Canuck hockey jersey and said "You better be careful wearing that around all these Yanks! They will shoot ya" At first I was like HEY! then I laughed because he had no idea that DH was the only Canadian at the table! Then he came back and asked where we were from in Canada and my DH said "I was raised in Vancouver". It happens to everyone. And I was obviously so upset and offended by this I didn't remember it two years later but DH did.

Something else that happened on that day with that jersey some kids yelled from across the way GO LEAFS!! then DH was like HEY!!!! Neither comment ruined our day or trip!

(he is a citizen now, not then)