I was not allowed to use rocking chairs at Baby Care Center

[mommylovesdisney]

OK, I think that goes a little far...there is place for toddlers to color and watch TV and decompress. It is called the hotel room. Or backseat of the minivan.

 

[livndisney]

OK, I think that goes a little far...there is place for toddlers to color and watch TV and decompress. It is called the hotel room. Or backseat of the minivan.

Wait a minute! In the interest of the "equality" that everyone had been fussing about on here, the BabyCare center is open to Toddlers. Disney provides the toys, coloring pages and Tv's just the same as they provide the "nursing room". How can anyone argue EVERYONE who wants to should be able to use the nursing room but toddlers can't color?


And the last time I tried to drive my Minvan down Mainstreet, security got mad. LOL

 

[QVCshopper]

I honestly don't think Disney is against bottle feeding. I just think our whole society has a thing against women showing their breast while feeding--thus, the privacy room. While I breast fed, I usually did not use a blanket or any covering. I was very open about it, and just covered the baby gently with my shirt. I didn't really care too much about modesty--most people don't want to see it anyway.

I'm sorry this happened to you; it's obviously a sensitive issue to many. Maybe they should just make quiest rooms bigger no matter how you feed your child.

 

[design_mom]

I'm going to ask them to add rockers, remove the tv and dim the lights.

I don't think simply dimming the lights and adding a rocking chair is the same thing. They would need to have a second room. I personally think the area with the tv and the coloring area is good for the "older" toddlers who need a place to get away and decompress.

The only time I've been into a baby care center was with my sister when she was nursing her DD. DS (who was 3 at the time) and I waited for her in the TV room. I assumed it was for families who were waiting for mom/baby to finish. It is nice to have that place, especially if they are going to be "picky" about who is allowed in the feeding area.

 

[HunnyJar]

The only time I've been into a baby care center was with my sister when she was nursing her DD. DSseparate (who was 3 at the time) and I waited for her in the TV room. I assumed it was for families who were waiting for mom/baby to finish. It is nice to have that place, especially if they are going to be "picky" about who is allowed in the feeding area.

That is generally the same room where bottle fed babies and babies who are taking solids go as well. I know Epcot has a television room and a separate room for the high chairs, but MK does not. In all honesty, when I went to feed my daughter I was kind of annoyed that I couldn't find a seat right away to bottle feed my daughter. As I said in my previous post a family was in there watching UP! - luckily the movie was about to end, but I was seriously considering trying to find some place on the floor to feed my daughter.

I love the Baby Care Centers. My daughter is a picky, picky girl and she likes her bottles warm almost hot. It is so nice to be able to warm up her bottles and take a little breather from the crowds. Plus the fact that they offer high chairs is very nice. While it would be nice to have a quiet area to feed my daughter (she is VERY easily distracted and if too much is going on she will refuse her bottle) I am just grateful that Disney offers a place like the Baby Care Centers for their guests.

 

[littlbugmom]

I guess there is no good answer. Any way it is done will make some end up feeling put out.

This! You are absolutely right.


If Disney makes both rooms flipping IDENTICAL, someone is going to complain about something they don't have or something that in some way isn't perfect for *them*.


And Suellen, I hope you don't leave the forum over this. I don't think people are upset. Trying to get what you mean down in print isn't as easy as talking, so maybe clarification is needed here and there.

 

[mom2maggie]

Geez, this post blew up!

I was worried it would become a breast vs. bottle issue, which it totally wasn't for me. As I said in my original post, I breastfed too up until 1.5 months ago. I wanted to use the rocking chairs, and was upset by the snottiness - that's all!

Like I said, I would be satisfied if they would just put some rocking chairs in the main room - I could always deal with the TV or just turn it off if no one was in there. Thankfully that was our last trip that we will make with a bottlefeeding OR nursing baby, so it won't ever be a issue again. I did want to make it known in case other mothers thought the same as I did. I read the posts on the DIS as that there was a room with rocking chairs, never that it was SPECIFICALLY and prohibitively for nursing mothers. I actually didn't even notice the sign on the door UNTIL I was told that I couldnt' go in.

Now I know and maybe someone else does too, and I can save them the heartache!

 

[disney_family_1247]

I can see why you were upset, but nursing moms have a harder time. Some have been hassled for nursing in public, others are just too embarrassed to do it. There are only two chairs in that room. You could give your baby a bottle anywhere in the park without ever worrying that someone would see your breasts.

Sorry you were upset and that breastfeeding didn't work for you.

 

[Beavers5]

OP- I'm sorry they were snotty with you. The worker at the MK BCC was rude to me for breastfeeding in the main area so that my toddler could watch TV while the baby ate.

It sucks that the space was there and available, yet they wouldn't let the OP use it. But, it is Disney's BCC and they have every right to make and enforce any (legal) rules that they wish. Just like, I have the right to limit which friends of my son's play in my house. Am I discriminating? Yes, I am. I discriminate against the kid across the street, because he is a brat. Does it upset him? Maybe, but it is my house with my rules.

 

[annette20071]

Well... at Disney I have only been to GS a handful of times.

At Epcot twice to check for ADR's for a later time in the day and once at DHS to find out where we could get some formula since I had forgotten some for the baby (yeah I know bad mom and also a problem a breastfeeding mom never has) <--my feeble attempt at humor.

So I wouldn't have heard it there. But I literally mean I have never heard anyone, anywhere say something to a woman BFing.

I can't see why a woman would be concerned if her DH say a woman BFing. I am guessing that most women don't just whip their shirt and bra completely off to feed the child. I really am so oblivious to it I rarely even notice a woman is BFing. I probably inappropriately stare because I am in wonderous awe of all infants. I adore them. Maybe that makes me part of the problem. *Note to self* stare less.

In one of your prior posts you talk about running into bf nazis but you can't believe anyone would says something about a bf woman? You don't think it works both ways? You've never heard or seen complaints about bf anywhere? Not on the news (CNN frequently carries these stories)? Not on these boards (where I have seen several in my limited time here)? Nowhere? It really doesn't sound like you have gotten out much in your 36 years. That or you just don't pay attention to that kind of thing because it isn't important to you and doesn't bother you.

 

[mom2maggie]

I can see why you were upset, but nursing moms have a harder time. Some have been hassled for nursing in public, others are just too embarrassed to do it. There are only two chairs in that room. You could give your baby a bottle anywhere in the park without ever worrying that someone would see your breasts.

Sorry you were upset and that breastfeeding didn't work for you.

I think you missed the original intent of my complaint - I wanted to use the rocking chairs to rock my baby in a quiet environment. I can't do that just anywhere in the park!

 

[HunnyJar]

I think you missed the original intent of my complaint - I wanted to use the rocking chairs to rock my baby in a quiet environment. I can't do that just anywhere in the park!

I totally agree. Especially if you need to warm up a bottle. My daughter was NOT taking her bottle at Cosmic Ray's or any of the CS places we stopped at for lunch. While I could warm her bottle there, it's far from a nice, quiet place to feed your little one.

 

[Juliet25]

The only time I've been into a baby care center was with my sister when she was nursing her DD. DS (who was 3 at the time) and I waited for her in the TV room. I assumed it was for families who were waiting for mom/baby to finish. It is nice to have that place, especially if they are going to be "picky" about who is allowed in the feeding area.

Come to think of it, the last time I used the nursing rooms (in EPCOT and MK), the friend I was with accompanied me both times. Of course, she would have given up her seat to a nursing mom, but the point is that she was never asked to leave, despite not feeding a baby either via a breast or bottle. I think this topic is much ado about nothing. If there's space available, a bottlefeeding mom should use it. If there's not, she can't. It's not discrimination, though I've read some pretty laughable arguments here about why it is. It's also not preferntial treatment. I don't remember getting a gold star for breastfeeding my kids in the BCC. I was just provided with a bit of privacy.

You know, I'm a bit offended that Disney even offers these rooms. What are they saying -- that breastfeeding is something so shameful and disgusting that it needs to be done behind closed doors? How dare they! <tic>

 

[NemoMOm]

For moms that have never heard of people complaining about NIP http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/07/nyregion/07nurse.html This is a link to an wrticle in the NY Times about Barbara Walters complaining about NIP on the View. They then interviewed business owners that have refused service to B'fing moms. In addition, they list 6 states that just RECENTLY changed laws so that a woman could NIP! Instead of a dirty bathroom This is why Disney has a room because too many Americans do not acccept NIP. I say Americans because its widely accepted in the rest of the world. Just think if we lived in Sweden we would be paid for nursing

 

[pommfrites]

Really? Is the motivation really to make bf mothers more comfortable than bottle feeding mothers? Or is it to try to limit the amount of nursing in the parks - which receives tons of complaints? No one can make you feel second class but yourself.

Hey, it's LAW that women are allowed to BF anywhere. It was deemed a biological neccessity to feed the child. So if they get complaints, post a notice of the law and file them in the circular file. I tried BF my son, but due to a certain issue, it was deemed not viable for me. Why can't my child have a quiet area to feed also out of the heat (ie in the AC)? If there's not enough rockers or chair, add some or build some extra area for the non nursing moms away from the "family" area. I'm sorry, but Disney is not hurting for cash enough to deprive a few moms of a rocker.

 

[Juliet25]

Why can't my child have a quiet area to feed also out of the heat (ie in the AC)?

Try the theater in the back of the town hall (just bypass Tony's Town Square restaurant and keep walking). It's quiet, dimly lit, air conditioned and way less chaotic than the BBC. It's one of my favorite nursing spots.

 

[NemoMOm]

Hey, it's LAW that women are allowed to BF anywhere. It was deemed a biological neccessity to feed the child. So if they get complaints, post a notice of the law and file them in the circular file. I tried BF my son, but due to a certain issue, it was deemed not viable for me. Why can't my child have a quiet area to feed also out of the heat (ie in the AC)? If there's not enough rockers or chair, add some or build some extra area for the non nursing moms away from the "family" area. I'm sorry, but Disney is not hurting for cash enough to deprive a few moms of a rocker.

I'm sorry your are incorrect, there is no Federal LAW that allows NIP, therefore it is not allowed everywhere. In fact, only 44 states have laws that "allow" women to NIP "discreetly". You really should read the article on my previous post. Business owners including restaurants turn refuse service to women that NIP all the time because of complaints from others.

 

[Suellen]

In one of your prior posts you talk about running into bf nazis but you can't believe anyone would says something about a bf woman? You don't think it works both ways? You've never heard or seen complaints about bf anywhere? Not on the news (CNN frequently carries these stories)? Not on these boards (where I have seen several in my limited time here)? Nowhere? It really doesn't sound like you have gotten out much in your 36 years. That or you just don't pay attention to that kind of thing because it isn't important to you and doesn't bother you.

This is the last time I defend myself in this post ~ then I will conclude my short venture into the family subforum.

Nope ~ never read a single thing here on Disboards about it. Sorry ~ maybe I am not frequenting the right threads.

I didn't say I have never seen it or I don't believe it. I specifically said I DO BELIEVE it. I said I don't believe it as in "I am in AWE that people can be so rude" I did say I believe I read something about something here in Maine at Sam's club at some point in the past 5 years but that I generally avoid the news in print and on tv.

I DID say I have not HEARD PERSONALLY someone say something to a Nursing Mom. I DID say that I have been treated like I was a bad mom for bottle feeding by breastfeeding moms (this specific incident occured at the Children's Museum) where a mom starting chatting with me and saying how cute Z was and she couldn't believe she was "walking" already... yada, yada ~ cute kid. So do you BF? No I bottle feed. Back turned conversation over.

I've had BF moms try to convince me I should BF my second dd (while I was still PG). I have had it pointed out to me that BF children are smarter and healthier. So essentially ~ my kids will sickly little dummies because I couldn't BF. I notice that SOME BF moms are all about sharing with you the REASONS they chose to BF and the REASONS why you should ~ without ever considering that maybe, just maybe you didn't have the choice.

I do not say ALL. I try not to say things like "Everyone who does ...." I avoid using words like everyone, never, normal or abnormal.


My kids are beyond the bottle feeding, breastfeeding debate at this point. So I will just take my stupid, sick, poor seeing little feeble children and feed them some carrots at a TS.

See ya! Off to make sure none of you "nice" ladies are using my free sit and stand stroller. What a friendly bunch of moms.

 

[maxiesmom]

Why can't my child have a quiet area to feed also out of the heat (ie in the AC)? If there's not enough rockers or chair, add some or build some extra area for the non nursing moms away from the "family" area. I'm sorry, but Disney is not hurting for cash enough to deprive a few moms of a rocker.

They do have an area out of the heat. It just doesn't have rocking chairs. And as far as Disney not hurting for cash, they wouldn't be offering so many incentives to visit WDW as they are if they were not huring for business. It makes more sense for them to spend money on updates that the majority of people will see or use then to spend money on more rocking chairs that a minority of the people will use.

Maybe if enough people write in and suggest more rockers, Disney will add them when the economy improves. Venting here, while it might make you feel better, does not really help the cause.

 

[pommfrites]

I'm sorry your are incorrect, there is no Federal LAW that allows NIP, therefore it is not allowed everywhere. In fact, only 44 states have laws that "allow" women to NIP "discreetly". You really should read the article on my previous post. Business owners including restaurants turn refuse service to women that NIP all the time because of complaints from others.

Never said it was federal law. Just that 44 out of 50 states, is pretty darn near everywhere. Disney is not just a restaurant. Also Disney has a place called the Baby Center! Not the just for BF moms center. Just seems that if it is law in CA or FL that BF is allowed, the Guest Services could post notice nearby and refer complaints to there and tactfully disregard the complaints. "Yes, maam. I understand...thank you for bringing it to our attention. Goodbye. "