I was not allowed to use rocking chairs at Baby Care Center

[littlbugmom]

Oops... also wanted to mention in my 36 years on this planet and out in public PLENTY ~ I have never heard a single person make a single comment to a breastfeeding mom negative or otherwise. Can't imagine that a grown adult would go to GS to complain about such a thing (not that I doubt it happens. I just can't imagine what makes people think they have that right)

Actually, the first part of this post sort of sounds like she is implying that the complaints don't happen. She's been on this planet and out in public PLENTY for 36 years and never heard a single person make a single comment to a bfing mom. She can't imagine that a person would go to the trouble of complaining.

Then the last part is saying something completely different. She goes from saying she can't imagine that it happens to she can't imagine what makes a person do it.

Using words like that makes the post seem passive aggressive to me. (I'm not saying the poster meant it that way, just that the wording comes across that way to me)

 

[Suellen]

totally NOT passive aggressive. Factual. I have personally never heard anyone say anything to a breastfeeding mom. That is a fact.

It is also unbelievable to me that people think that they have the right to:

a. say something to a mother about breastfeeding her child
b. complain to a third party about a breastfeeding mom

period end of story.

Read into it as much as you want.

People continue to amaze me.

 

[NotUrsula]

Nah, I've overheard the complaints myself. IME, the baby NEVER gets mentioned at first, it's always a complaint about disgusting behaviour or indecent exposure. Most of the ones I've overheard are older ladies who seem to be primarily concerned about what their husbands or grandsons might potentially have seen -- somehow it's never a man complaining; funny, that.

It usually isn't until the CM questions a bit that it comes out that a baby was involved.

 

[Suellen]

Well... at Disney I have only been to GS a handful of times.

At Epcot twice to check for ADR's for a later time in the day and once at DHS to find out where we could get some formula since I had forgotten some for the baby (yeah I know bad mom and also a problem a breastfeeding mom never has) <--my feeble attempt at humor.

So I wouldn't have heard it there. But I literally mean I have never heard anyone, anywhere say something to a woman BFing.

I can't see why a woman would be concerned if her DH say a woman BFing. I am guessing that most women don't just whip their shirt and bra completely off to feed the child. I really am so oblivious to it I rarely even notice a woman is BFing. I probably inappropriately stare because I am in wonderous awe of all infants. I adore them. Maybe that makes me part of the problem. *Note to self* stare less.

 

[melancholywings]

Look, I'm sorry you have to deal with "nursing nazis" but loonies like that are NOT normal breastfeeding moms, any more than my SIL who likes to go around exclaiming that she can "smell meat" on people in public places is a normal vegetarian. The large majority of us do use bottles, too; we just don't feed formula in most cases. WDW isn't a playgroup, so how would a total stranger truly know what you had in the bottle?

Rudeness like that deserves a public verbal smackdown; that is the only way that idiots like that will learn to mind their own business.

Yeah I know these women are not normal...there's a small, loud, well off part of the population over here that is very stepford. And it doesn't end with breastfeed, it moves on to the kinds of baby food you use, the brands you dress your kids in and the private school your kid attends and what kind of car you drive when you pick them up. It's crazy high school mommy cliques.

But all it takes is one loony to make you feel defensive on how your raising your kid. And for some women the inability not to BF is a very painful and personal thing. So telling a woman she can't use an empty chair to feed her baby (bottle or breast) isn't a good or understanding solution.

I love the later poster who mentioned that even on the breast you can still feed where ever you want, that technically neither group needs the room as a requirement to feed their baby. I think **** and bottle solidarity will do more for women's rights than saying a bottle or breast feed mom needs this or that over the other.

 

[Suellen]

Okay... I must know what word you typed there that got starred out. I really hope they aren't filtering the word I think you used. That would just be wrong.

 

[kidshop]

totally NOT passive aggressive. Factual. I have personally never heard anyone say anything to a breastfeeding mom. That is a fact.

It is also unbelievable to me that people think that they have the right to:

a. say something to a mother about breastfeeding her child
b. complain to a third party about a breastfeeding mom

period end of story.

Read into it as much as you want.

People continue to amaze me.

I want to live where you live! Are you aware there are laws in most (not every) state to prevent bfing moms from being asked to leave or to stop bfing? The laws are needed. I'm surprised you've never heard the news stories of the mom asked to leave Starbucks and the whole airplane debacle! Those were within the past few years. It will be an issue until bfing is the norm, but the quickest way for it to become normal is to be exposed to it.

 

[Suellen]

I live in Maine ~ and here ~ most people don't put their business in other people's business. It can be good and bad.

And I don't read news anymore. The last article I read was about an 11 year old who had been kept in a closet since she was 3 or 4 years old. I don't read it anymore.

I think I remember something about Sam's club several years ago.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

You know what amazes and saddens me? That it's gotten to the point in this community that not only do people argue about breastfeeding, but now people argue about people arguing about breastfeeding.

I think everybody needs to get outside for a little bit or something.

 

[NemoMOm]

Yep, Even Barbara Walters publicly complained about a woman b'fing on a plane next her! Guess she has never seen any before

totally NOT passive aggressive. Factual. I have personally never heard anyone say anything to a breastfeeding mom. That is a fact.

It is also unbelievable to me that people think that they have the right to:

a. say something to a mother about breastfeeding her child
b. complain to a third party about a breastfeeding mom

period end of story.

Read into it as much as you want.

People continue to amaze me.

 

[Suellen]

Yep, Even Barbara Walters publicly complained about a woman b'fing on a plane next her! Guess she has never seen any before

Don't even get me started on "famous" people who think their opinion matters more than anyone else's in the world.

 

[moparop]

Okay... I must know what word you typed there that got starred out. I really hope they aren't filtering the word I think you used. That would just be wrong.

I am pretty sure it was b00b.

 

[Suellen]

why, why, why would the word **** have a filter on it????

 

[littlbugmom]

totally NOT passive aggressive. Factual. I have personally never heard anyone say anything to a breastfeeding mom. That is a fact.

It is also unbelievable to me that people think that they have the right to:

a. say something to a mother about breastfeeding her child
b. complain to a third party about a breastfeeding mom

period end of story.

Read into it as much as you want.

People continue to amaze me.

And you'll see that I wasn't saying that was your intention....just that it could read that way and can appear passive aggressive which is why you got some comments about you thinking it doesn't happen because you've never seen it. I was pointing out how the way it's written can seem different than the way it's meant.


Where I live, there is a pretty good mix of cultures, incomes, it's rural and it's suburban, religious and not....lots of different ideas about almost everything. I have personally been spoken to rudely about bfing. I've been told by restaurant managers to go to my car or to the bathroom to nurse my child. My stepmother tried to convince me to help her hound my younger sister because she had decided to bottle feed. She wanted me to gang up on her! A man I didn't know complained to me about another woman who was bfing. We were at the play area in the mall and he was disgusted. I told him I didn't agree with him and he gave me a dirty look, then said he going to complain. I don't know if he did or didn't but people do. They complain about everything. If they don't physically go to GS, they send an email.

I've heard coworkers make negative comments about bfing and also about NOT bfing. I've been told that my children would suffer because I work and also that not putting my kids into daycare would stunt them, socially.

After this thread today, I'm going to email Disney and ask them to please make the main room of the feeding area more like the nursing moms only room. I'm going to ask them to add rockers, remove the tv and dim the lights. It doesn't affect me because my kids aren't babies anymore but that nursing room is a good thing. It shouldn't be taken away.

 

[Suellen]

I don't think simply dimming the lights and adding a rocking chair is the same thing. They would need to have a second room. I personally think the area with the tv and the coloring area is good for the "older" toddlers who need a place to get away and decompress.

Plus I don't see the point of separation. Well except for Dad's that want a quiet place too.

I guess there is no good answer. Any way it is done will make some end up feeling put out.

 

[NemoMOm]

OMG, Hollywood drives me nuts! I love when they tell people not to drive gas guzzlers then fly on their private plane for a date!!!

Don't even get me started on "famous" people who think their opinion matters more than anyone else's in the world.

 

[melancholywings]

Okay... I must know what word you typed there that got starred out. I really hope they aren't filtering the word I think you used. That would just be wrong.

Haha! I didn't notice that it was another word for breast...only with more O.

 

[iheartdisney]

I don't think simply dimming the lights and adding a rocking chair is the same thing. They would need to have a second room. I personally think the area with the tv and the coloring area is good for the "older" toddlers who need a place to get away and decompress.

Plus I don't see the point of separation. Well except for Dad's that want a quiet place too.

I guess there is no good answer. Any way it is done will make some end up feeling put out.

OK, I think that goes a little far...there is place for toddlers to color and watch TV and decompress. It is called the hotel room. Or backseat of the minivan.

 

[Suellen]

Okay clearly I can't say (type) anything that won't upset someone. So I am done.

Last time I will venture to the family forum. It is so friendly.

 

[geishagirl81]

Suellen- don't be scared away! you must know that peole tend to be meaner and blunter in forums than they would in person. Or what they type can be read in a manner they didn't intend. And people tend to get so passionate about this topic that it is no surprise to me that ppl's feathers are getting ruffled.

Everyone should take a break and chill. Bottle. B00b. Who cares. The HEART of the discussion is that the OP was disapointed that she couldn't rock her baby in a quiet enviroment like BF'ing moms.